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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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filthy pit
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
18000
filthy pit
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
filthy pit
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/17/25
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filthy pit
  12/17/25
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white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
aqua comical factory reset button site
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
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aqua comical factory reset button site
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Insane supple coldplay fan
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
walnut resort stain
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
white liquid oxygen sanctuary
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Razzle-dazzle cyan abode
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white liquid oxygen sanctuary
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filthy pit
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
hairraiser turdskin whorehouse
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
nofapping gas station
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white liquid oxygen sanctuary
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hairraiser turdskin whorehouse
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filthy pit
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filthy pit
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
sable stubborn toilet seat wagecucks
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: filthy pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: filthy pit

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: filthy pit

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: filthy pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: aqua comical factory reset button site

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: aqua comical factory reset button site



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Insane supple coldplay fan

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: walnut resort stain

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle cyan abode

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: filthy pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: hairraiser turdskin whorehouse

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: nofapping gas station

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: white liquid oxygen sanctuary



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: hairraiser turdskin whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: filthy pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: filthy pit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: soul-stirring place of business meetinghouse

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: sable stubborn toilet seat wagecucks

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)