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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
  12/16/25
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slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook
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The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Flesh vivacious regret
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Flesh vivacious regret
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Flesh vivacious regret
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook
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that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
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Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Flesh vivacious regret
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Flesh vivacious regret
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Chartreuse out-of-control hell
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how do they get home?
insane lemon toaster
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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insane lemon toaster
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
outnumbered tank macaca
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Chartreuse out-of-control hell
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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i love scholarship
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genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Flesh vivacious regret
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is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: insane lemon toaster

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: insane lemon toaster



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: outnumbered tank macaca

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: lilac crackhouse headpube

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: vibrant walnut useless brakes base

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: slap-happy metal hissy fit travel guidebook



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Glittery crotch

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Kitchen

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Chartreuse out-of-control hell



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Glittery crotch



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Flesh vivacious regret

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: brindle antidepressant drug hall

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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