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Why don't more people retire early? 55 and under?

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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/26/25
Retiring from your job is something you do when you’re...
Beady-eyed sable yarmulke
  10/26/25
So, you enjoy life as a slave?
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/26/25
Be the boss or owner so work is fun.
Lemon range partner
  10/26/25
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Fighting Disrespectful Trust Fund
  10/26/25
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Geriatric razzle striped hyena church
  10/27/25
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Lemon range partner
  10/26/25
many millennials have done this!
domesticated chocolate dragon stead
  10/26/25
I would gladly retire at 55 if I could afford it. We had kid...
Translucent hominid
  10/26/25
I had 4 kids in the teens through ‘22. Best decision o...
Beady-eyed sable yarmulke
  10/26/25
lol
curious trump supporter
  10/28/25
You trade a day with your kids every day you go to work. In ...
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
retiring is a death sentence, one must work & continuous...
Bateful cruise ship idiot
  10/26/25
You sound jewish
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/26/25
enjoy dying young
Bateful cruise ship idiot
  10/26/25
But what does that have to do with being employed at a job?
soul-stirring center associate
  10/26/25
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jet hunting ground step-uncle's house
  10/26/25
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sooty vigorous university
  10/26/25
then why doesn't RSF at least have an autoimmune disease or ...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
also ime if the job would actually be interesting or a chall...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
retiring young to me doesn't mean ceasing to be a part of so...
overrated adventurous mexican principal's office
  10/26/25
Same
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
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jet hunting ground step-uncle's house
  10/26/25
Are you involved with Doom 32X Resurrection
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
It's really not the same kind of pressure imo and that press...
puce newt lay
  10/27/25
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Bateful cruise ship idiot
  10/27/25
why would you want longevity if it's filled by pressure? ...
stirring theater
  10/28/25
people who retire and focus on hobbies turn to mush, sorry. ...
Bateful cruise ship idiot
  10/27/25
For example? Is there a long blog poast on this?
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/27/25
I’m not talking about hobbies. Sure, I’d play mo...
overrated adventurous mexican principal's office
  10/27/25
For me — Litigating fills my bank account, but Film fi...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/27/25
Retire to do what? I have enough money and tried just doing ...
Cyan Appetizing Box Office Roast Beef
  10/26/25
Do you have no interests or hobbies?
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/26/25
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Bateful cruise ship idiot
  10/26/25
Just tending to a big yard and home maintenance and remodeli...
rambunctious floppy french chef
  10/26/25
most of the retired people nearby do this and it's their ent...
Magenta bat-shit-crazy garrison fat ankles
  10/26/25
I'll be retiring at 53. Only 6 more months of working. I kno...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
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Federal Sapphire Twinkling Uncleanness Toaster
  10/26/25
Sounds very Tommy Turdskinesque
Beady-eyed sable yarmulke
  10/26/25
healthcare is reasonably priced if you can game your income ...
rambunctious floppy french chef
  10/26/25
he's scamming the taxpayer with military disability. no hidi...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
Maybe our legislature shouldn’t pass such stupid laws ...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
Yes you did you Gen Xer. You know it's your destiny to be po...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
Oh. This is Cowgod.
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
literally every military vet has some level of disability pe...
overrated adventurous mexican principal's office
  10/26/25
I never even applied for them for 27 years after I got out. ...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
You didnt stumble upon it. A poaster sent it to you iirc. Yo...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/27/25
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underhanded forum
  10/26/25
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curious trump supporter
  10/28/25
My sample size is small but I have not ever seen this work o...
umber puppy cuck
  10/26/25
Most of the early retirees I know are living quite well. I g...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
People who live where you do presumably mostly choose to be ...
histrionic potus library
  10/26/25
I know you live in Alaska, but traveling is really, really s...
Beady-eyed sable yarmulke
  10/26/25
I should say vacationing. I’m not much of a “tra...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
alaska is a great home base for int'l travel. it's in the mi...
Vibrant state cumskin
  10/27/25
(Guy regularly hopping on the nonstop from Fairbanks to Guan...
tan hall mood
  10/27/25
It’s pretty simple: People who get in the position ...
histrionic potus library
  10/26/25
Cr. There is a payroll to think about.
Beady-eyed sable yarmulke
  10/26/25
Mid-50s were high earning years in like 2010. Now it's Gen X...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/26/25
Aren't the numbers pretty brutal? Assuming at 55 you have...
Buck-toothed giraffe
  10/26/25
People who retire early hate their kids.
Lemon range partner
  10/26/25
How so?
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
You should be stacking money in your 60s and 70s so your kid...
Lemon range partner
  10/26/25
LOL I made my own way, they can figure out theirs.
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
Keep booming dirte.
Lemon range partner
  10/27/25
I’m kind of in a unique situation. NW of roughly 5 mm ...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
brother you are living the dream except you should have foun...
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  10/28/25
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shimmering talented milk indian lodge
  11/01/25
i'm going to retire early with $10 million or so. even doin...
zippy abnormal location
  10/26/25
I’ll never understand the mindset of people who live t...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
i'm not opposed to a richly rewarding, challenging but flexi...
zippy abnormal location
  10/26/25
I’m done making rich men richer. It’s mai tais a...
Exciting mother immigrant
  10/26/25
Which is what?
Motley plaza tank
  10/27/25
He does something on oil rigs
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
sex with men
curious trump supporter
  10/28/25
I'll never understand people who wait to retire once they ha...
aquamarine at-the-ready field
  10/28/25
$10m liquid or are you including, eg, $4m in Bay Area home e...
histrionic potus library
  10/26/25
Most people in my field medicine don't have any inter3sts an...
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  10/26/25
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Misanthropic emerald quadroon voyeur
  10/26/25
I think this is fairly common in high-achiever circles.
histrionic potus library
  10/26/25
i see way more high achievers seriously pursuing a hobby tha...
tan hall mood
  10/27/25
I retired around 35. But I still ended up working here and t...
puce newt lay
  10/27/25
CR. I’m a tenured law prof and sometimes get sabbatica...
Comical Gay Generalized Bond Office
  10/27/25
What about your Backlog? Thus gives you time to work on your...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/27/25
video games arent actually that fun when you can play them 2...
puce newt lay
  10/27/25
But this is the only way to reduce your Backlog. And tell th...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/27/25
I have 4 kids. They go to Jewish Day Schools. The tuition is...
jet-lagged snowy jewess useless brakes
  10/27/25
Tell us about the discounts you negotiated
Razzle-dazzle Pearl Indirect Expression
  10/27/25
Sounds like an "Are Reptile is stupid" problem.
Motley plaza tank
  10/27/25
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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
30% of the kids at the high school end up at an Ivy or equiv...
jet-lagged snowy jewess useless brakes
  10/28/25
I went to a public school and went to a T14 LS on a scholars...
Motley plaza tank
  10/29/25
Good goy
sooty vigorous university
  10/28/25
if i could walk a few blocks and work with friends i would d...
domesticated chocolate dragon stead
  10/27/25
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soul-stirring center associate
  11/11/25
they scrolled social media for 25 years and cant retire
Magenta bat-shit-crazy garrison fat ankles
  10/27/25
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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/27/25
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Swollen Electric Whorehouse Boistinker
  10/29/25
Health care costs will absolutely destroy you if you try to ...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/28/25
You could clearly move abroad like TT, and have reasonable h...
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
You could just not buy health insurance.
soul-stirring center associate
  10/28/25
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curious trump supporter
  10/28/25
And die penniless if I get in an accident or get sick. Not r...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/28/25
Weird! I've never seen such risk aversion on XO, but it's my...
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
Going without health insurance in your 50's or 60's while tr...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/28/25
Just move to Thailand or something. Insurance is ridiculousl...
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/29/25
That might be a viable strategy for you or boor or other xox...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/29/25
a better approach is to buy bottom of the barrel insurance t...
topaz church building
  10/29/25
Even bottom of the barrel catastrophic coverage is super exp...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/30/25
it should be your goal to die before you need serious "...
Boyish lodge windowlicker
  10/28/25
Actual psychopaths work as long as they are able.
Thirsty knife public bath
  10/29/25
“ I have run the numbers, and health care costs would ...
Gold pit antidepressant drug
  10/29/25
(guy who has never looked at the price of individual health ...
bright exhilarant space pistol
  10/29/25
Get on a health sharing plan like Christian healthcare minis...
dashing set
  10/29/25
i'm about to part-time retire at 36 with $1.5m. just fucking...
Concupiscible Territorial Address Haunted Graveyard
  10/28/25
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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
I'm a decade older than you and I have about the same. I'd ...
aquamarine at-the-ready field
  10/28/25
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Concupiscible Territorial Address Haunted Graveyard
  10/28/25
Fear of the unknown and stupidity prevents early retire.
curious trump supporter
  10/28/25
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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/28/25
The huge Tangled mess of regulations and so forth ensure tha...
aromatic clear den
  10/29/25
"The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas...
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  10/29/25
You're living in one now.
soul-stirring center associate
  10/29/25
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Thirsty knife public bath
  10/29/25
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Motley plaza tank
  11/01/25
Everything is expensive as shit and if you have a job you li...
Motley plaza tank
  11/01/25
55 is the average age these days when homes get paid off. th...
marvelous menage
  11/10/25
TP
Thirsty knife public bath
  11/10/25


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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376708)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sable yarmulke

Retiring from your job is something you do when you’re 70-75 years old in my opinion.

Who wants to be retired at 55?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376711)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

So, you enjoy life as a slave?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376721)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: Lemon range partner

Be the boss or owner so work is fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377466)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Fighting Disrespectful Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377594)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: Geriatric razzle striped hyena church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377789)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Lemon range partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377465)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: domesticated chocolate dragon stead

many millennials have done this!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376716)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Translucent hominid

I would gladly retire at 55 if I could afford it. We had kids younger and will be finished paying for college by then hopefully/presumably, but having to buy a house younger and pay for all the kid bullshit cost me easily 1M in net worth and probably more like 2.5M, just because we had to stretch to afford buying a house and two kids in day care in years where our investment portfolio would be 5+x bigger if we just maxed out 401k and bought the obvious plays I bought in much smaller quantities (eg AMZN, Apple, NVidia, BTC, etc.). My only hope to retire at 55 now is if my parents and in-laws leave way more inheritance than I’m expecting, which isn’t going to happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376728)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sable yarmulke

I had 4 kids in the teens through ‘22. Best decision of my life. Can’t have new kids now. And kids really are what it’s all about, even though they make day to day living pretty stressful. I’d never trade a day with my kids for a day of “retirement.” Jfc, what a bad deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376953)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382903)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

You trade a day with your kids every day you go to work. In retirement, you wouldn't trade anything, retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382908)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship idiot

retiring is a death sentence, one must work & continuously challenge oneself, push ones limits, in order to live

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376731)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

You sound jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376732)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship idiot

enjoy dying young

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376733)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: soul-stirring center associate

But what does that have to do with being employed at a job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376930)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: jet hunting ground step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376980)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: sooty vigorous university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377559)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

then why doesn't RSF at least have an autoimmune disease or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377632)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

also ime if the job would actually be interesting or a challenge, you never get it anyway. People want you to do the Same Thing over and over again. The most surefire way to challenge yourself is to challenge yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377641)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:23 PM
Author: overrated adventurous mexican principal's office

retiring young to me doesn't mean ceasing to be a part of society. it means no longer spending my time doing things i don't like in pursuit of the acuisition of money.

there are already a few organizations/projects i'm part of that i could devote all my time to and feel good about it if i didn't care about how much money those efforts produced.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377680)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377691)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: jet hunting ground step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377702)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

Are you involved with Doom 32X Resurrection

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377703)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: puce newt lay

It's really not the same kind of pressure imo and that pressure is needed for longevity. And not longevity in the sense of growing old or being remembered for a long time but more in the personal sense of staying sharp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377776)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:12 AM
Author: Bateful cruise ship idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377779)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:17 AM
Author: stirring theater

why would you want longevity if it's filled by pressure?

that is some serious cope



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381199)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:13 AM
Author: Bateful cruise ship idiot

people who retire and focus on hobbies turn to mush, sorry. being regularly challenged is often quite unpleasant and people will generally adjust their lives to not be challenged if they can afford to do so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377780)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:02 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

For example? Is there a long blog poast on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378193)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: overrated adventurous mexican principal's office

I’m not talking about hobbies. Sure, I’d play more music and take more bike rides but that wouldn’t take up all my time. An example would be a director for some organization that isn’t profit focused. Roles would include marketing, planning, budgeting, training etc.

You’re telling me that would be worse for my mind than litigating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378236)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:21 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

For me — Litigating fills my bank account, but Film fills my soul. I have been engaged with a non-profit focusing on the latter fwiw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378328)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Cyan Appetizing Box Office Roast Beef

Retire to do what? I have enough money and tried just doing nothing. It's really boring.

IMO a man needs to be building stuff and growing in order to be healthy and happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376752)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

Do you have no interests or hobbies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376761)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Bateful cruise ship idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376765)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: rambunctious floppy french chef

Just tending to a big yard and home maintenance and remodeling etc can take a ton of time if u have a big house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376979)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Magenta bat-shit-crazy garrison fat ankles

most of the retired people nearby do this and it's their entire life - very depressing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377457)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I'll be retiring at 53. Only 6 more months of working. I know I'm in a fortunate position, but I understand why most are unable to retire. If healthcare were more reasonably priced, I think a lot more people would pursue this option.

I am already making retirement plans and goals. Once the kids are out of the house in a couple years, we're going to hike the Camino, and sail around the Caribbean, make a trip to Antarctica (the only continent I haven't been to). Lots of plans on the bucket list. We want to do a lot of travel while we're still young enough and physically capable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376753)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Federal Sapphire Twinkling Uncleanness Toaster

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376758)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sable yarmulke

Sounds very Tommy Turdskinesque

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376954)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: rambunctious floppy french chef

healthcare is reasonably priced if you can game your income to maximize Oniggercare subsidies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376981)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

he's scamming the taxpayer with military disability. no hiding that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377646)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

Maybe our legislature shouldn’t pass such stupid laws like the Pact Act. I didn’t scam anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377662)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

Yes you did you Gen Xer. You know it's your destiny to be poor af. Any other outcome MUST be scamming, because you're Gen X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377671)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

Oh. This is Cowgod.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377689)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: overrated adventurous mexican principal's office

literally every military vet has some level of disability pension.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377704)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:35 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I never even applied for them for 27 years after I got out. It never crossed my mind until I stumbled across an article about the Pact Act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377710)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:48 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

You didnt stumble upon it. A poaster sent it to you iirc. You should be paying rach’s Hosting Fees imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378181)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: underhanded forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377696)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382913)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: umber puppy cuck

My sample size is small but I have not ever seen this work out well.

TBH I think that people with the drive to amass enough money to retire early are precisely the sorts of people that should continue working later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376759)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

Most of the early retirees I know are living quite well. I golf and fish with a few guys in their early to mid fifties. None of them live extravagantly, but they all seem enriched by their travel and passions. I do know a couple of burnouts that just collect disability and smoke pot all day every day, but they don't seem unhappy.

My doctor friend is actually fulfilled by work and enjoys operating on people. He says he will work until he is unable. He does travel extensively for a few months each year though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376811)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: histrionic potus library

People who live where you do presumably mostly choose to be there. It’s pretty self-selective. Not the case for the rat race hellholes where a lot of us find ourselves.

I dream of getting off the rollercoaster at some point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376852)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sable yarmulke

I know you live in Alaska, but traveling is really, really stupid for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376959)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I should say vacationing. I’m not much of a “traveler” per se, but I really really enjoy vacationing. Yes, there’s a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377654)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: Vibrant state cumskin

alaska is a great home base for int'l travel. it's in the middle of everything. 6-7 hours or less in any direction and you can be in all kinds of places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377785)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:42 AM
Author: tan hall mood

(Guy regularly hopping on the nonstop from Fairbanks to Guangzhou)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378244)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: histrionic potus library

It’s pretty simple:

People who get in the position to do this are, generally, slaves and know no other life. They have no hobbies, no friends who aren’t professional contacts, etc.

Lots of bros can’t stand their wives and kids or vice-versa.

Mid-50s are often highest-earning years, so it’s easy to slippery slope.

Also tend to have a lot of $$$ demands at that time in life. Sweet little daughters need someone to pay for NYU plus East Village apartment, oh and they need $5k/month for the next 5-10 years while they fuck through the city until they get married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376841)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: Beady-eyed sable yarmulke

Cr. There is a payroll to think about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49376961)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

Mid-50s were high earning years in like 2010. Now it's Gen X so they're low-earning years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377651)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: Buck-toothed giraffe

Aren't the numbers pretty brutal?

Assuming at 55 you have $2 mm saved, if you retire at 55 you'll have about $2 mm at 65, whereas if you work, you'll have like $5-6 mm saved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377437)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:37 PM
Author: Lemon range partner

People who retire early hate their kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377576)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377623)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Lemon range partner

You should be stacking money in your 60s and 70s so your kids can inherit it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377673)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

LOL

I made my own way, they can figure out theirs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377693)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Lemon range partner

Keep booming dirte.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378537)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I’m kind of in a unique situation. NW of roughly 5 mm depending on how you value pensions. We have no debt whatsoever, and will have to survive on 16-17K per month in retirement. Once we start getting social security, we’ll be around 20-22K per month. We have free healthcare through the VA and my kids basically get free college. Yes, I think the VA overcompensates me, but I’m not going to turn it down.

I hate my job, fat fiancée hates her job. There are so many things I’d rather do than work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377648)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: aquamarine at-the-ready field

brother you are living the dream except you should have found a hot Ukrainian teenager

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382905)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: shimmering talented milk indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49393526)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: zippy abnormal location

i'm going to retire early with $10 million or so. even doing nothing sounds better than more biglaw at that point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377585)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I’ll never understand the mindset of people who live to work. People who are defined by their job are the saddest people in the world imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377660)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: zippy abnormal location

i'm not opposed to a richly rewarding, challenging but flexible job that doesn't monopolize my time and attention, but come on, let's be realistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377675)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Exciting mother immigrant

I’m done making rich men richer. It’s mai tais and margaritas on the beach from here on out. I’m done being challenged and my work has never been rewarding. I purposely chose the highest paying job, with the least amount of effort along with the most time off I could find.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377695)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Motley plaza tank

Which is what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49379486)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

He does something on oil rigs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381185)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

sex with men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382923)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: aquamarine at-the-ready field

I'll never understand people who wait to retire once they have even 10 million. Working is a waste of your life unless you are truly exceptional like Musk, Jobs, or fucking Van Gogh or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383095)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: histrionic potus library

$10m liquid or are you including, eg, $4m in Bay Area home equity?

What age will this be for you?

I got off biglaw treadmill for a while but am back on it (and remember why I got off it at one point).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377747)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: contagious canary sanctuary telephone

Most people in my field medicine don't have any inter3sts and feel themselves useful if they work while their fat wife goes shopping. Once they stop work it will be apparent they have no life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377687)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:31 PM
Author: Misanthropic emerald quadroon voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377701)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 11:56 PM
Author: histrionic potus library

I think this is fairly common in high-achiever circles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377748)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: tan hall mood

i see way more high achievers seriously pursuing a hobby than standard yuppie types

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378247)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:04 AM
Author: puce newt lay

I retired around 35. But I still ended up working here and these because life is pretty boring and pointless once you have it all. This kind of thing is something that's hard to come to and accept that why you see people like rsf who are useless and impactless. Not sure if I can truly explain it better. It's something you really have to experience before it can make any sense. Why else would people like Elon musk or a Rothschild continue working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377765)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:21 AM
Author: Comical Gay Generalized Bond Office

CR. I’m a tenured law prof and sometimes get sabbaticals or grants that let me travel or do virtually nothing for 6 months to a year. It’s fun for a while, but honestly gets boring after a bit. I'm always eager to return to teaching and publishing. Think I’ll keep doing this until I’m 70.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49377794)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:55 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

What about your Backlog? Thus gives you time to work on your Backlog.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378187)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: puce newt lay

video games arent actually that fun when you can play them 24/7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378290)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

But this is the only way to reduce your Backlog. And tell that to WoW players and CoD Scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378557)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:53 AM
Author: jet-lagged snowy jewess useless brakes

I have 4 kids. They go to Jewish Day Schools. The tuition is $40k per kid. I need to pay for 12 years of this for each kid. LJL at retiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378184)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Pearl Indirect Expression

Tell us about the discounts you negotiated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378339)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Motley plaza tank

Sounds like an "Are Reptile is stupid" problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49379481)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381184)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: jet-lagged snowy jewess useless brakes

30% of the kids at the high school end up at an Ivy or equivalent. Public school is like playing the lotto with your kids’ lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381631)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: Motley plaza tank

I went to a public school and went to a T14 LS on a scholarship. My HHI is like $800k/year.

30% chance of going to Cornell isn't worth $40k/year/kid. Also, as a thought exercise: $40k/year x 12 + 70k/year x 4 = $760k. That's BEFORE grad school. You could basically send your kid to UF, buy your kid a business, have them run it, then use that to get into a top MBA program or whatever, or just have them keep expanding their business and have a few hundred k left over so they can get a downpayment for a house for each kid. That's for each kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385909)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 12:18 AM
Author: sooty vigorous university

Good goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381201)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: domesticated chocolate dragon stead

if i could walk a few blocks and work with friends i would do it til i was dead but ljl @ driving to some bs "job" and being around shrews and boomers and immigrants doing power point presentations. its even worse if you do blue collar work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49378887)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: soul-stirring center associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49420533)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Magenta bat-shit-crazy garrison fat ankles

they scrolled social media for 25 years and cant retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49379497)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381126)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Swollen Electric Whorehouse Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385751)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 1:14 AM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

Health care costs will absolutely destroy you if you try to retire before you are eligible for Medicare. I have run the numbers, and health care costs would eat up almost half of my income until Medicare kicks in.

But to answer the question more broadly, most people are poor. The median household net worth in the U.S. is around $100k. For non-homeowners, it is about $10k. For most Americans, retirement before Social Security isn't an option. I have a net worth of around $2.5 million in my mid-40's and no kids, and I would struggle to make the numbers work if I retired at 55 (mainly due to health care costs, as discussed earlier). LJL at the typical American with no savings outside of home equity retiring early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381252)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

You could clearly move abroad like TT, and have reasonable healthcare costs and live like a king. Why wouldn’t you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381611)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: soul-stirring center associate

You could just not buy health insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382893)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: curious trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382938)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

And die penniless if I get in an accident or get sick. Not really worth the risk, in my opinion. Also, in my case, my wife takes a bunch of expensive medications, so I have to pay out the nose for those with or without insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383006)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

Weird! I've never seen such risk aversion on XO, but it's my first day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383067)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

Going without health insurance in your 50's or 60's while trying to retire early is just moronic. If you are in your 20's, then maybe, since you are likely to be both healthy and judgement-proof. But a 60-year-old FIREmo without health insurance is completely done here if they get cancer or get in a serious car accident or something. Decades of savings will be gone instantly, and you are back to wagecucking until you drop dead. No thank you. I'd rather just work for a couple more years until I can either afford insurance or am eligible for Medicare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383616)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 1:36 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

Just move to Thailand or something. Insurance is ridiculously cheap compared to the USA.

Either way, this is pussy mentality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383943)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

That might be a viable strategy for you or boor or other xoxo autists, but normal people have friends and family and aren't willing to leave them on the other side of the planet just to be able to retire a few year earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385450)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: topaz church building

a better approach is to buy bottom of the barrel insurance that provides some ultimate backstop to your max out of pocket. also many states don't put medical debt on credit reports. so you can simply ignore or refuse to pay providers.

if you're very well-capitialized, this is a good dirtbag strategy to get good treatment at low cost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385473)



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Date: October 30th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

Even bottom of the barrel catastrophic coverage is super expensive for people in their 50's and 60's. And refusing to pay providers is super risky as a FIREmo. If they sue, you're fucked. Also, if you get cancer and need multiple rounds of radiation or chemo, at some point, they will stop giving you treatment if you don't pay your bills. The bottom line is that if you want to retire in the U.S. before Medicare kicks in, you need to budget a minimum of $20k per year (and probably more like $30k-$40k per year if you have any health problems) for health care expenses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49388417)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Boyish lodge windowlicker

it should be your goal to die before you need serious "health care"

lol @ spending your youth accumulating $$$ so you can afford to rot away as a cripple at 70

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383111)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

Actual psychopaths work as long as they are able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383938)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: Gold pit antidepressant drug

“ I have run the numbers, and health care costs would eat up almost half of my income until Medicare kicks in.”

Are you on dialysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49384237)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: bright exhilarant space pistol

(guy who has never looked at the price of individual health plans for someone aged 50+)

Premiums alone will run around $2,000 per month, and that gets you an out-of-pocket max of just under $20k per year. So you probably need to budget $30k-$40k per year just for health care costs until Medicare kicks in. You could spend less if you are healthy. (My wife unfortunately takes several expensive medications that run $1000+ per month.) But probably around $15k-$20k per year is an absolute lower bound unless you want to risk losing everything if you get cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49386308)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:41 AM
Author: dashing set

Get on a health sharing plan like Christian healthcare ministries. Doesn’t cover preexisting but it’s like 500 a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49384238)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Concupiscible Territorial Address Haunted Graveyard

i'm about to part-time retire at 36 with $1.5m. just fucking lol at surrendering your few years on this earth to purel @ desk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381620)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49381621)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: aquamarine at-the-ready field

I'm a decade older than you and I have about the same. I'd retire if I was single. I will retire as soon as I have enough to support my family without working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382900)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: Concupiscible Territorial Address Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49383086)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

Fear of the unknown and stupidity prevents early retire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382902)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49382904)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: aromatic clear den

The huge Tangled mess of regulations and so forth ensure that the cost of living in America continues to increase all the time. Especially Healthcare.. and so that keeps people working. The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas to a cheap third world country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385468)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: cream spectacular trailer park bbw

"The only way to escape the machine is to move overseas to a cheap third world country"

will you idiots drop this shit already. no one wants to live in a brown shithole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49385486)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: soul-stirring center associate

You're living in one now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49386297)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49386478)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Motley plaza tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790122&forum_id=2/#49393516)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: Motley plaza tank

Everything is expensive as shit and if you have a job you like then you don't retire. Eventually they'll fire you or your company will implode and you'll become "retired" because that's how shit works.

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Date: November 10th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: marvelous menage

55 is the average age these days when homes get paid off. there's still a little bit of college debt to pay. plus the 100k truck.

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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Thirsty knife public bath

TP

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