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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:33 PM Author: arrogant ticket booth codepig So for the next 50 years the US Economy will be as prosperous as the last 50? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973943) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:34 PM Author: Black set turdskin haven't you read the disclaimer at the bottom of every mutual fund or etf prospectus? it says past returns predict future results. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973956) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:43 PM Author: arrogant ticket booth codepig Change your 10 year window to 1999 to 2009, you'd be down almost 20 percent.
United States 1950-2001 was an absolute powerhouse, I do not expect the same domination for the next 50 years, not of that magnitude. |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:36 PM Author: Trip buck-toothed ladyboy So annual returns are declining by 1-2 percent per year in your timescale? Got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974300) |
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Date: December 10th, 2014 5:03 PM Author: Fighting Forum Compare the demographics, foreign competition, and regulatory burden at those times vs the next 40 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#26902473) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:58 PM Author: Fighting Forum this will not be the case for the next 50 years
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:23 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete Jesus, stfup. No, you're not fucked if you don't begin investing by 21, though it is certainly advantageous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973892) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:33 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete Not if returns were negative when/in the years immediately following when you started --i.e.-- a 22 yo in 2008 starting his 401K right as the stock market tanked. This also isn't true if you compensate by saving/investing more later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973941) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:36 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973971) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:40 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete ?
All the hypo supposes is that you start investing in your early 20s. The "miracle of compounding" is thanks to markets, which obviously fluctuate dramatically and do not offer consistent returns/ |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:43 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:47 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete YOUR personal rate of return is different from the market's average rate of return, based on a variety of factors, such as the precise timing/market direction of when you first began investing.
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:49 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974047) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:13 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete False.
Here's a 5-year example:
Joe invests $1000 in 2002. The market grows 10% each year. In 2007, he thus has about $1600 after 5 years.
Jim invests in 2008. The market drops 38%. He's down to $620. It increases 18% in 2009, so he's now up to $731.60. In 2010 it increases 11%, bringing him up to about $810. In 2011, he sees a 7% increase, so he's now at 867. He's up 5% in 2012, bringing him up to about $910.
Joe is thus up 60% in 5 years; Jim DOWN nearly 10%. There was no difference except for when they began investing. |
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If not then I might yolo and move to the philipines or some shit at 50 with a couple of million. |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:45 PM Author: insecure orange alpha Any family pressure to get married?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974022) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:46 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain nah but I love my gf. I would probably marry her kids or not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974030) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: may his bones be crushed I'm 56 now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#49814674) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:32 PM Author: Crimson temple puppy (39-year-old, MAF troll) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973935) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:38 PM Author: Mildly autistic goyim dilemma I didn't start saving til I got a job at 24. Should I killself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973984) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:39 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24973992) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:43 PM Author: insecure orange alpha Doctors are done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974011) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:32 PM Author: Nudist avocado senate sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309307) |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 8:41 AM Author: azure sinister office son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#32660123) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:26 PM Author: Navy brunch pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728100) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:45 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain And this is why I want to strangle the shrews I have dated.
At least my gf has a 401K that she contributes up to the match limit.
But she is 29 years old and this is her first year of contributing to a roth.
WOmen are fucking children.
"But I make 1/4 of what you do" she clucks.
"Except when I was 22 making $38,000 I still maxed out my roth," I lisp back. |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:46 PM Author: insecure orange alpha What were u doing at 22? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974035) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:54 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain crappy consulting firm do municipal bond analysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974067) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:58 PM Author: milky fantasy-prone nursing home keepsake machete you should've gone into finance, instead. you'd have a millie by now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974087) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:59 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain I was too lazy in college, but yeah would have been a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974092) |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 10:36 AM Author: Vibrant parlour really tough guy $38k was a decent starting salary in 1995...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24977559) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:49 AM Author: glassy ape my gf doesn't even have a credit card. she's 24 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296392) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:48 PM Author: olive theater stage arthur is a dumbass for only putting in 2000, he should ve maxed out and would ve been fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974041) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:50 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974050) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:57 PM Author: olive theater stage yes arthur is fucked, ben pwns him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974080) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 3:51 PM Author: arrogant ticket booth codepig Twist: Arthur was swimming in student loan debt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974053) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:46 PM Author: green angry base selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309408) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:01 PM Author: mustard garrison These assumptions that ignore inflation and assume 10%+ real returns are asinine. The S&P returned something like 5% real over the last century. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974098) |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 8:23 PM Author: purple zombie-like potus meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24980368) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:08 PM Author: domesticated theatre gaming laptop *Is guy 1* *Invests from 2001-2008* *Is PWND* *Is guy 2* *Begins investing in 2008* *PROFITS* |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:10 PM Author: mustard garrison True, the idea that investing early is a good idea sure didn't apply to anybody who started investing 15 years ago. Would've been better off spending the money / having fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974151) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 1:14 PM Author: Crystalline place of business Why not, the market corrected in the next 10 years. Its only a losing bet if you need to retire during one of the down turns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31521424) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 10:02 AM Author: Crystalline place of business this is what idiots don't realize. crashes don't matter except for old people. and by the time you're old, you should be easing out of the market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727706) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 10:45 AM Author: splenetic hyperactive fat ankles Right. The person who started investing earlier is still in a better position than the person who spent it all.
I started investing seriously in 2006 or so, and sure, I got hammered in the couple of years following that. But after the crash I still had something (didn't sell) and it's since recovered. That portion of my savings wouldn't exist if I hadn't saved it early. |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:10 PM Author: Lilac Toilet Seat Public Bath I think the more interesting hypo is a guy who starts investing later but contributes more
Dude waiting until 27 probably was in grad school or something |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 8:23 PM Author: purple zombie-like potus meetinghouse that's more realistic even if he wasn't in grad school, because of inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24980361) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:10 PM Author: Balding chest-beating therapy shrine Just do graduate in 2006 and invest at the peak of the stock market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974148) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:11 PM Author: magenta cheese-eating plaza I still think it's more credited to maintain liquidity and invest in a future business than to put money into the market, assuming you can't do both and assuming you're under 35. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974156) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:15 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain Why the fuck does my roth IRA only have $35,000 in it? I maxed out from 22-27. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974195) |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:38 PM Author: mustard garrison I feel your pain. I've got like $41K. At least I can backdoor so it'll be $47K soon.
The real way I could see myself getting a big Roth IRA would be to get axed from law, and then start converting $30K or so a year from my 401k during a number of years with little to no income. |
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Date: February 7th, 2014 4:58 PM Author: anal comical roast beef skinny woman (cgm) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24974418) |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 10:41 AM Author: Tan sanctuary psychic What does this look like if you assume 6% returns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24977572) |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 10:51 AM Author: crawly box office electric furnace this is true.. i put away $1k in 1990, it's now worth $800k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24977600) |
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Date: February 17th, 2014 11:13 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#25034365) |
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Date: February 8th, 2014 11:02 AM Author: hilarious pearl lettuce not really.
my parents had very little just 20 years ago and now have a $3-4 million net worth. just make sure you get on a career path that is pretty lucrative and you'll be fine even if you don't save a penny until the age of 35-40. |
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Date: February 10th, 2014 2:32 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#24990298) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 11:34 AM Author: low-t fiercely-loyal regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727922) |
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Date: December 10th, 2014 5:07 PM Author: Dark rigor So your telling me that if I make a lot of money ill do well financially? Why aren't you charging for this insight? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#26902507) |
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Date: May 14th, 2014 9:23 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#25559090) |
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Date: December 10th, 2014 4:57 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#26902440) |
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Date: December 10th, 2014 5:04 PM Author: primrose impressive church The 19 bro isn't doubling the 27 year old bro or anything. You can still beat the average early starter by just putting way more money in. Most people who start investing at 19 only have chump change to put in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#26902483) |
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Date: December 10th, 2014 5:10 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#26902522) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 1:34 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27307587) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:33 PM Author: Slap-happy sooty parlor this is retarded. for most of us, that would have meant socking away money into the stock market during the mid- to late-2000s. the gain from the time period to now has only been like 2% per year on average (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309317) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:35 PM Author: Nudist avocado senate sandwich damn u r old. i started making money in 09. wish i saved a lot more. would have been rolling in it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309326) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:36 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309340) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:38 PM Author: Slap-happy sooty parlor we're in a bubble right now, so all of those figures are bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309354) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:50 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309440) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:44 PM Author: swollen cerebral locale stain A year later after bitching in this thread, I have fucking $37,500 in the Roth IRA I started when I was 21. Bullshit magical 12% compounding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309399) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:52 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309458) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 5:53 PM Author: vermilion self-centered athletic conference What has your APR been? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309459) |
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Date: February 13th, 2015 6:18 PM Author: harsh dragon lodge how much money did you have in cash on the sidelines from the last 6 year bull market? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#27309632) |
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Date: December 29th, 2015 1:41 PM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#29477105) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 7:18 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296033) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 7:47 AM Author: awkward shivering gaping pocket flask I remember a teacher showing us this kind of chart back around 1996 and I just ignored it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296076) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 8:17 AM Author: Flushed Trailer Park Coldplay Fan wise move (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296131) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 2:07 PM Author: may his bones be crushed I brought up shit like fees and realistic rates and the guy just looked at me like I was speaking Brazilian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#49814688) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 7:49 AM Author: medicated insanely creepy den internal respiration Too late now. Might as well YOLO out of control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296079) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:40 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296365) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 7:50 AM Author: hilarious pearl lettuce This is false and assumes one continues working a cookie-cutter job with 3% annual pay-raise their entire working life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296082) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 8:51 AM Author: Very Tactful Indigo Pit just do >10% growth every year. worked for bernie madoff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296208) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 8:57 AM Author: Trip buck-toothed ladyboy This bort is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296225) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:04 AM Author: frum cobalt dysfunction feces Chart assumes consistently abnormal YOY returns, as pointed out ad nauseum above
There's a reason this "phenomenon" is common knowledge and yet remarkably few people seem to benefit from it to the extent promised. |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:41 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296367) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 10:04 AM Author: frum cobalt dysfunction feces you pointed it out above several times, and each time you got subsequently pwned in short order (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296421) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:20 AM Author: charismatic insane party of the first part http://imgur.com/gnMx2MX
Literally did this. So I'm set 4 life? |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:20 AM Author: Underhanded burgundy candlestick maker The real reason this chart is dumb is because of inflation. You're comparing 2,000 dollars someone put in at 19 to 2,000 someone out in 46 years later and acting like it's the same thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296293) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:45 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296380) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:50 AM Author: Underhanded burgundy candlestick maker You can't say 16,000 vs 80,000 lolz and not see how that's a stupid comparison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296396) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 10:02 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296414) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 11:01 AM Author: hairraiser spot Inflation is what, 3%? The real issue is the 12% returns assumed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727858) |
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Date: September 15th, 2023 11:41 AM Author: poppy hissy fit boiling water *assumes 3% inflation* *fade in cannibal holocaust theme* |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:24 AM Author: brilliant queen of the night Yea 10 percent is retarded, but the gist of the argument is right. Early investments have a bigger bang for their buck when it's said and done. Invest as much as you can, as early as you can, in a low cost index. Profit (when you are old as fuck). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296303) |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 3:10 AM Author: Irradiated drunken business firm no shit but we;'re going to see HISTORICALLY low returns from this pt out, we ARE SO FUCKITY FUCKED
401K = SCAMs |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 7:57 AM Author: brilliant queen of the night I agree generally that returns will be lower. But if you asked me in 08 if we were fucked I'd say yes - and the market has gone crazy since then. I thought trump would lead to a market correction, and yet we have the trump rally.
Don't be a boomer, save your money. |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 9:57 AM Author: Wine national saving for retirement is flame. just slide and let do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296404) |
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Date: April 18th, 2016 10:04 AM Author: frum cobalt dysfunction feces cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#30296427) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 10:24 AM Author: Navy brunch pozpig Cr...life sucks post 60 anyway..might as well killself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31520037) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 10:03 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31519911) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 1:21 PM Author: Beady-eyed violent blood rage How do they get 10% retune every year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31521456) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 2:04 PM Author: 180 talking cuck noob investor question, but isn't this idea kind of self perpetuating?
Everyone believes in investing in the S&P 500 via mutual funds and index funds -> the market consistently goes up over time because people are always buying (direct deposit into 401k) -> everyone believe in investing in the market. |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 2:12 PM Author: primrose impressive church Student loan interest exceeds most investment returns so that should be priority #1 if you have it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31521840) |
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Date: September 29th, 2016 4:48 PM Author: 180 talking cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#31523215) |
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Date: February 20th, 2017 8:11 AM Author: Bisexual Dead Principal's Office Pistol lol at dorks ITT bobbing and weaving desperately not wanting this to be true. The annual return in the example may be at the high end of the range but the overall argument is cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#32660068) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:32 AM Author: Bisexual Dead Principal's Office Pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727637) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:40 AM Author: supple people who are hurt Earl must have been absolutely raped by fees in his IRA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727655) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:46 AM Author: geriatric curious rehab famous landscape painting COMPOUND INT--*nuke melts face* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727662) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:50 AM Author: Concupiscible effete corn cake Lol at everyone wagecucking there lives away for GC to save money they can't touch for 30-40 years and repeating the advice like brainwashed apes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727671) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:52 AM Author: geriatric curious rehab famous landscape painting I find my rent seeking behavior is paying off better. Just a few homes and I'm making 4K extra every month with rarely having to lift a finger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727675) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 9:54 AM Author: Concupiscible effete corn cake 20k liquid and 10k+ per month in passive income >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GC cucking the best years of your life to build a fraudlies "tax deferred" portfolio and get gaped on taxes at retirement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727681) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 10:16 AM Author: Fighting Forum (Not a rental property owner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727734) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 11:14 AM Author: splenetic hyperactive fat ankles Future is impossible to predict. Best call is to diversify.
I fully fund the Roth IRA each year (future tax advantage), fund the 401k enough to capture the match and then some (current tax advantage) and also have a few rental houses which cash flow decently now and will be paid off by retirement (inflation hedge plus tax advantage for the next couple of decades). |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 10:05 AM Author: Bisexual Dead Principal's Office Pistol i turn 40 next year. less than two decades left! you jelly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727714) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 10:06 AM Author: Concupiscible effete corn cake Naw man my 30s have been 180 billion. Still young and free but fuckloads of money instead of broke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33727719) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:06 PM Author: aromatic red orchestra pit now show me the table for $300K at 8% in student loans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728030) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:13 PM Author: onyx point chad imagine if you lived at home and worked at a 40k a year job from 19-25 or 26. invested it all. then went to college. you'd have it made. no one tells you this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728056) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:28 PM Author: Navy brunch pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728105) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: aromatic red orchestra pit lol, what $40K per year job do you think a 19 year old with a high school diploma can get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728113) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:32 PM Author: low-t fiercely-loyal regret data entry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728119) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:46 PM Author: aromatic red orchestra pit link to $40K data entry job that a 19 year old with a high school degree and no experience is qualified for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728151) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: low-t fiercely-loyal regret I made about 30k as a bus boy when i was 16 working part time. 40k fulltime gig would be easy to swing.. even if through 2 part time jobs at restaurants etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728219) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 1:04 PM Author: Navy brunch pozpig CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728221) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:32 PM Author: Navy brunch pozpig Admin assistant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728122) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:45 PM Author: aromatic red orchestra pit lol what? first, no one is going to hire a no-experience 19 year old admin assistant when there are 10 and 20 year veterans applying for the same job. second, those jobs pay like $26K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728148) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Navy brunch pozpig According to the chart all you need to invest is like 2k a year and you're pretty much set for retirement...just get ANY fucking job until age 26
go be a front desk person/work as receptionist |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 1:26 PM Author: Aphrodisiac cumskin cr chart is totally what happens IRL just stuff away 10k in stock at 18 = million$$$ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728308) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 11:10 AM Author: green angry base selfie things barzini knew and did that you did not for $200, alex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33734164) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 12:45 PM Author: aqua razzle giraffe incel I think a much more sure bet is Social Security taxes being raised to shore up the program, so I'll just YOLO out and rely on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728150) |
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Date: July 8th, 2017 1:27 PM Author: Aphrodisiac cumskin My 3k in savings from govt job at 23 is now worth 5k. Holy fuck I'm gonna be rich!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#33728311) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 11:21 AM Author: crawly box office electric furnace Investment compounding is the single biggest scam the investment/retirement community uses to grab your money.
The Future value investment analysis assumes a guaranteed return with zero draw-down. The overall markets (S%P), and less than 1% of stocks follow the interest rate return curve.
The market curve more closely follows the short-memory timespan which is roughty 10 years for each new generation (87, 00, 09, ...next?)
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 7:26 PM Author: Submissive impertinent range nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#34048286) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 11:19 AM Author: useless philosopher-king Just use a 20% return the first 8 years and use 1% return the next 50 years bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#34051890) |
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Date: September 15th, 2023 11:28 AM Author: Ebony new version water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#46800589) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 1:45 PM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" how’d we all do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#49814625) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 1:55 PM Author: Alison Angel Fan Not flame bc of the OP I invested $35k and it’s worth 6 million now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#49814655) |
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Date: April 13th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: richard clock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2488792&forum_id=2/#49814666) |