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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Tripping Razzle-dazzle Preventive Strike
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Charismatic codepig
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
glittery buck-toothed house
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
at-the-ready idiot
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
glittery buck-toothed house
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
at-the-ready idiot
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
glittery buck-toothed house
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
honey-headed vivacious theatre
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racy home
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territorial church building shitlib
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Irradiated public bath
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cq
Diverse hilarious private investor
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
big lime selfie
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
honey-headed vivacious theatre
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
cerebral pearl trailer park cuck
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
contagious water buffalo
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Tripping Razzle-dazzle Preventive Strike

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Charismatic codepig

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Charismatic codepig

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Charismatic codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: glittery buck-toothed house

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: at-the-ready idiot

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: glittery buck-toothed house

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: at-the-ready idiot

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: glittery buck-toothed house

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: honey-headed vivacious theatre

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: racy home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: territorial church building shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Irradiated public bath

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Diverse hilarious private investor

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: big lime selfie

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: honey-headed vivacious theatre

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: cerebral pearl trailer park cuck

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: contagious water buffalo

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Pea-brained goal in life dilemma

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105022)