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HATP, what denomination are you?
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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:30 PM Author: lsd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49444774) |
Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: lsd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49444861) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: lsd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445092) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) One of the ones brother. One of the ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445094) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:53 PM Author: lsd Can you tell me who you think Jesus is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445131) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:12 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) Who else would he be but Jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445158) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:23 PM Author: lsd Do you believe that Jesus is God?
It’s important to your salvation that you actually answer the question in a straightforward fashion |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) In my denomination we believe that Jesus was a great philosophical model for who to follow but not literally the son of God sry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445209) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:48 PM Author: lsd Oh I didn’t realize you were Buddhist, sorry. I will pray for your salvation, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445216) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) Thanks man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445225) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:03 PM Author: lsd Seriously brother, all jokes aside, I do hope that you will be saved, 100% not flame.
Jesus loves you, has loved you since before you were created in your mother’s womb, He has a plan for your life and is waiting for you to come to Him with a humble heart, repent of your sins and offer your life to live for His glory. He has great mercy for all of us and welcomes anyone who wishes to become a child of light. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:05 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) I have a Jeffersonian view of Jesus. You live in a country created by a guy who actively denied the divinity of Christ. So did John Adams. Maybe you should reconsider if you're living in the right country. Plenty of countries founded by unapologetic Trinitarians. Maybe you're the one who's lost and confused. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445243) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: lsd Did you realize that ((Columbus)) set sail from Spain for “America” the same year that Jews got expelled from Spain? Something to think about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445254) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:13 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) Did you know that the first synagogue in the United States was built in Rhode Island by a sephardic slave trader? More food for thought! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445261) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:17 PM Author: lsd Can you tell me which verses in the Bible lead you to believe Jesus is not the Son of God? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445266) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) I just think it's a metaphor fam. Jesus is rad I'm just not big on the supernatural elements. We can talk about the things Jesus did do but the whole metaphysical element is not my department. I'm sorry to let you down brother.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: lsd Ok, so the Bible is not the inspired word of God, and is just some gibberish scribbled down by some Jews, and we can interpret it any way we wish, and pretty much it doesn’t matter in any way, is that your position? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445281) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:24 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) New Protestant, first day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445283) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: lsd Vast majority of Protestants in America in 2025 take the Bible 100% literally. Your bloodline seems to be trapped in some sort of King Georgian colonial mind-fuck time-warp. Very sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445289) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) Actually I'm just descended from the Puritans who were hardcore Calvinists. Their ideology and beliefs died out in the 1720s and were replaced by Universalism. Not trapped just sticking to tradition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445292) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: lsd Oh, Calvinists were notorious for not taking the Bible seriously, I see where you’re coming from now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445295) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:53 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) If anything they were the only people who ever took the Bible seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445312) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: lsd I have never seen you once post one single verse of Scripture since I remember seeing you as a recognizable sudo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445329) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:46 PM Author: potluck if you want to stick with a veritable anglo christian tradition you should become like a neo-cambridge platonist (of the Cudworthian variety) imo. that’d be cooler and more respectable than what you’re saying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445301) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 10:54 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) hey thanks for the tip (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445313) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:00 PM Author: lsd Or HATP could forget about trying to be “cool” or “respectable” in this world and focus on what God wants from us.
John 15:19
If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
John 18:36
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”
1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Etc etc etc |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) I agree with this mostly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445333) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:33 AM Author: lsd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445954) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:41 PM Author: lex if you're not sincerely interested in religion and delving into philosophy/theology, committing to your inherited tradition as a safe course is tcr. broad anglo tradition has the added benefit of a beautiful liturgy and gorgeous art/music/literature etc. as much as i love the more mediterranean catholic tradition, outside of FSSP and other fringe groups, there is so much uplifting and heartening stuff to find from the 19th c. anglo-catholic world. shame episcopalians and even anglicans are so intent on squandering it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446594) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: potluck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446639) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:45 AM Author: spherequeer (✅🍑) Huh. I was certain from earlier posts that you were a Calvinist yourself, not just ancestrally. He was pretty cool but Zwingli ftw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445992) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) True Calvinism is so mentally ill that every culture that has tried it has given up.
Just imagine saying to someone that faith in Christ isn't enough for salvation. That God picks some people at random to save and others not.
No one has been able to hang on to 5 point Calvinism for long. The Dutch tried, but it was too much of a bummer, so Arminius came along and said OK we'll keep most of Calvinism but we're scrapping predestination. The Puritans similarly swung extremely far in the other direction. They went from only a tiny handful of people are saved to everyone is saved no matter what they do.
Calvin came up with predestination because in the Bible God randomly blesses some people and not others. And he thought Jesus was explicit that he only died for the sins of his flock, not everyone. But 99% of Christians don't believe this anymore. So you can try! But most don't make it very far.
Actually if you look back at history, early America, the Netherlands, and Switzerland are all very similar. Calvinists who were industrious, built high trust societies, got insanely wealthy, and then lost the capacity to be super judgy of others and enforce their strict religion. They all became universalists after they became successful. No different than libs today. |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: spherequeer (✅🍑) absolutely devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446516) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446534) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: spherequeer (✅🍑) I like the sober demeanor it seems to generate, I never really thought about the contents, I'm not even atheist or agnostic I'm more apathetic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446538) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:36 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) The OG Calvinists were hardcore as fuck. Oliver Cromwell, Frederick the Great, the Dutch East India Company, the Swiss bankers and watchmakers. The Puritans banned Christmas. They thought holidays were put on Earth by Satan to trick us into not working as hard as possible. They were edgy af. Basically believed that the only way to know for sure if God chose you for salvation before the beginning of Time was to get insanely rich. This is why America and Switzerland are so fucking rich. Calvinist roots. Money is God. WASPs invented Jewish money practices lol. If you believe money is God and put money first your country will get rich and you'll eventually abandon God. It happened all over the world. It's all in here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:37 PM Author: spherequeer (✅🍑) Those are the parts I like, the hard as fuck consequences, they are 180, I have never had the energy to think about the theological logic of it all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49446581) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) Calvin wrote many weighty tomes about the theology. He spent his entire life studying the Bible and drawing his conclusions about what it meant. They sometimes call him The Exegete. No one looked deeper and wrote more about what the Bible meant than this dude (Augustinian disciple as well iirc)
Skimming this Weber entry I like the part about WASP austerity. They worked hard AND rejected materialism. That's how they got so rich. They were AFRAID of using their hard earned wages for anything other than stored investment. They believed that dollars beget more dollars, and if money is the scorecard of salvation you'd be insane to waste a penny that could go towards growing your chip stack. Amazing. Now think about how a Puritan-descendant like Abigail Johnson owns the entire stock market lol. Makes perfect sense.
Also Weber's incredible dings on Lutheranism for caring way too much about the holy spirit and not GETTING THE FUCK TO WORK and saving money. Ljfl. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: "''"'"'"'" (jew) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445220) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:51 PM Author: lsd That’s not what jews believe at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445222) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:43 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. he's episcopalian 😂 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445109) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:44 PM Author: Cyber Round Table (America First) grrr, protestants, grrrrr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800078&forum_id=2/#49445112) |