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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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henna haunting base
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
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henna haunting base
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
henna haunting base
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
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henna haunting base
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Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
vermilion domesticated toilet seat library
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
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vermilion domesticated toilet seat library
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Sienna casino
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
out-of-control wonderful reading party
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
fluffy purple coffee pot rigor
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henna haunting base
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
marvelous crawly party of the first part
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Sapphire Self-centered Boltzmann Shitlib
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Vengeful mind-boggling gaping
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marvelous crawly party of the first part
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henna haunting base
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henna haunting base
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Peach fortuitous meteor hell
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Concupiscible trailer park
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: henna haunting base



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: henna haunting base

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: henna haunting base

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: henna haunting base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: vermilion domesticated toilet seat library

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: vermilion domesticated toilet seat library



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Sienna casino

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: out-of-control wonderful reading party

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: fluffy purple coffee pot rigor

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: henna haunting base



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: marvelous crawly party of the first part

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Sapphire Self-centered Boltzmann Shitlib

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Vengeful mind-boggling gaping



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: marvelous crawly party of the first part



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: henna haunting base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: henna haunting base



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Peach fortuitous meteor hell

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Concupiscible trailer park

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)