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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: onyx telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515456) |
Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: onyx telephone 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515486) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515523) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich Guns are muktzah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: onyx telephone I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:
In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.
https://outorah.org/p/21842/ |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit state where you got semicha from before i engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: onyx telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: purple painfully honest sanctuary how do they get home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit they still live in walking distance.
they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.
people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: purple painfully honest sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516177) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Rambunctious razzle-dazzle theatre presumably you couldnt fire the gun though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: frozen sinister foreskin locale Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: big regret wagecucks How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515735) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: onyx telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516689) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Beta ultramarine kitchen i love scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515767) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: pungent parlour digit ratio genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: Transparent Appetizing Pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516412) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: Beta ultramarine kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516560) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: onyx telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516683) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: onyx telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516681) |
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Low-t sooty range sandwich There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Soul-stirring ebony theater rigor is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738) |