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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/17/25
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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
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Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
dun parlour
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
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dun parlour
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Laughsome Lemon Selfie Love Of Her Life
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
jade piazza affirmative action
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Swollen vengeful party of the first part
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
low-t saffron windowlicker
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Swollen vengeful party of the first part
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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
boyish infuriating hospital
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Up-to-no-good home
  12/17/25
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Swollen vengeful party of the first part
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boyish infuriating hospital
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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
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Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Multi-colored Costumed Plaza
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
contagious avocado hissy fit
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: dun parlour

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: dun parlour



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Laughsome Lemon Selfie Love Of Her Life

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: jade piazza affirmative action

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: low-t saffron windowlicker

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: boyish infuriating hospital

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good home

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Swollen vengeful party of the first part



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: boyish infuriating hospital



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Vibrant Maniacal Kitchen



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Multi-colored Costumed Plaza

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: contagious avocado hissy fit

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/#49515738)