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Newsome and Bass: 100% responsible for CA fires. TX shitcons? Not responsible.

No responsibility for the flooding. Do i have this right?
Rose balding station
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trip space wrinkle
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Coral brethren nursing home
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Rose balding station
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Don’t forget about Trujillo
Coral brethren nursing home
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Lance Bass?
talented hairless principal's office
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He can't keep getting away with this
arousing hospital
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Shimmering curious sneaky criminal
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infuriating claret home striped hyena
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https://x.com/ronxyz00/status/1942249751942177190?s=46
Coral brethren nursing home
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no one controls the rain. otoh, public policies have an e...
vigorous orchid cruise ship
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no one controls wildfires. otoh, public policies have an ...
tantric motley step-uncle's house
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To anyone who reads this thread in the future: this poast is...
Mauve field haunted graveyard
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it would reduce the severity of floods as measured in deaths...
tantric motley step-uncle's house
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Another example of terrible logic. There is no indication a ...
Mauve field haunted graveyard
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when you shift the discussion to warning systems i can agree...
vigorous orchid cruise ship
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I remember epah's smug response about thinning/clearing out ...
ocher state hairy legs
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that's fine but republican politicians in this area rejected...
tantric motley step-uncle's house
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While it’s clearly not entirely Newsome’s or Bas...
Mauve field haunted graveyard
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leaving the LA reservoirs bone dry was a pretty big fuckup i...
ocher state hairy legs
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The difference is that the GOP is the party of personal resp...
Contagious pontificating stage
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The pretense that anyone believes anything they argue is lon...
lascivious hot business firm codepig
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titcr Logic, consistency, and objective truth are long de...
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Date: July 6th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: Rose balding station

No responsibility for the flooding. Do i have this right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49077042)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 6:24 PM
Author: trip space wrinkle



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Date: July 6th, 2025 6:26 PM
Author: Coral brethren nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49077056)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: Rose balding station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49077627)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 7:46 AM
Author: Coral brethren nursing home

Don’t forget about Trujillo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49078287)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 7:46 AM
Author: talented hairless principal's office

Lance Bass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49078288)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: arousing hospital

He can't keep getting away with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082048)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Shimmering curious sneaky criminal



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Date: July 7th, 2025 8:30 AM
Author: infuriating claret home striped hyena



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Coral brethren nursing home

https://x.com/ronxyz00/status/1942249751942177190?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082046)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: vigorous orchid cruise ship

no one controls the rain.

otoh, public policies have an enormous impact on the frequency and severity of fires in California. at long last even portions of the political left have recognized how awful California's fire policies have been for decades.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082095)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: tantric motley step-uncle's house

no one controls wildfires.

otoh, public policies have an enormous impact on the frequency and severity of flash floods in Texas. at long last even portions of the political right have recognized how awful Texas's flash flood policies have been for decades

https://archive.is/zhj5M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082152)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: Mauve field haunted graveyard

To anyone who reads this thread in the future: this poast is a great example of fallacious logic. A siren system would reduce neither the frequency nor severity of floods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082260)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: tantric motley step-uncle's house

it would reduce the severity of floods as measured in deaths. no one cares about the frequency or intensity of floods that don't impact people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082264)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: Mauve field haunted graveyard

Another example of terrible logic. There is no indication a “siren system” would systemically reduce flooding deaths, nor have had any impact on the most recent flood. This is just a wishful “what if” that assumes perfect implementation and adherence.

Reminder to everyone: warning were sent prior to this flood, directly to people’s phones. They are complaining that the warnings were too late and not intrusive enough to be noticed. These are the true hurdles a warning system has to overcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082377)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: vigorous orchid cruise ship

when you shift the discussion to warning systems i can agree with a lot of what you say.

but getting back to the original problem, it is absolutely true that public policies have an enormous impact on the frequency and severity of wildfires and public policies have no similar impact on rainfall. California spent a century suppressing fires in ecosystems that depend on fires. there is a massive backlog of fuel for fires. and although everyone recognizes the need to do far better management there are still almost no controlled burns and thinning is constantly opposed. so, yes, the Dems in CA bear massive blame for fires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082271)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: ocher state hairy legs

I remember epah's smug response about thinning/clearing out brush that it would just grow back in a year anyways as if that's a hurdle in a city with tremendously valuable real estate and that is also overrun with mexican day laborers who could easily do the job. tbf I never did a 6 month stint as a rural firefighter as part of my mormon mission in 1987 so what the fuck do I know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082292)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: tantric motley step-uncle's house

that's fine but republican politicians in this area rejected federal money for sirens because it was coming from democrats and because they thought sirens were annoying. the county commissioner, literally a NASA PhD engineer, thought the traditional system of neighbors calling neighbors was sufficient. numerous citizens testified that the communist COVID joe biden mafia would infiltrate the community if they took money for the sirens. so they rejected it and bought police radios instead. the governor wasn't involved in it, the state republican party wasn't involved in it, but it was a republican policy decision made by people greatly influenced by a kind of republican mindset.

look i'm on team individual responsibility here. every adult on that river should have been paying attention and should have been prepared. i'm sure a lot of them saw the warnings and ignored them. the government can't save everyone from an inherently dangerous situation unless they totally prohibit human activity in the area, and i'm not for that. but the local government had a free siren system laid at their feet and they rejected it because blue team bad. in hindsight that looks really fucking stupid and it deserves criticism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082368)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Mauve field haunted graveyard

While it’s clearly not entirely Newsome’s or Bass’ fault, they are more at fault for the fires than anyone is for the Texas floods.

The Texas floods were a less-than-once-a-century event, and occurred in an area without significant development. The Palisades fires happen a couple times a decade, and they keep building more houses there. The state’s home insurance program incentivizes people to keep rebuilding. Plus the fire problems are exacerbated by the fire management policies that Newsome definitely does have say over.

The fires in California are far more comparable to Houston flooding, since it’s one of the most regularly flooded cities in America and they keep building the exact same houses back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082127)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: ocher state hairy legs

leaving the LA reservoirs bone dry was a pretty big fuckup in the wildfire case. it's also very doubtful that the 5 or 6 most expendable ppl in the NWS that were shitcanned would have made much of a difference. likewise even if NWS warning system improvements and local flood prevention improvements were a top 5 priority for Trump from day 1, it's unlikely they'd be in place at this point to have made a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082280)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: Contagious pontificating stage

The difference is that the GOP is the party of personal responsibility, so we can be sure that if Republic officials bore any blame for the Texas floods they would simply tell us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082294)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: lascivious hot business firm codepig

The pretense that anyone believes anything they argue is long dead. It's all a messaging game. Oh, a mudslide killed three hikers? Guess the Dems should have thought of that when they claimed to like mud!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082320)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: Heady hunting ground cuckoldry

titcr

Logic, consistency, and objective truth are long dead. Everything, and I mean everything, is an information warfare campaign.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746820&forum_id=2/#49082427)