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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Supple Burgundy Multi-billionaire Doctorate
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Supple Burgundy Multi-billionaire Doctorate

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Chestnut pisswyrm weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: aquamarine mildly autistic sweet tailpipe black woman

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: stirring iridescent pozpig

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: aquamarine mildly autistic sweet tailpipe black woman

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: stirring iridescent pozpig

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: aquamarine mildly autistic sweet tailpipe black woman

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Odious garnet death wish newt

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: underhanded concupiscible jap macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Wine Ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Pink set

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: scarlet vibrant personal credit line chapel

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: dashing meetinghouse

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Odious garnet death wish newt

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: grizzly doobsian filthpig

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: sepia den scourge upon the earth

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: amethyst gaping property

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105022)