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Call it: did Kim Kardashian pass the California bar exam?

Results get posted today at 5:00 pm PST, public pass list ge...
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
Whoever took it for her did.
pearl effete office toilet seat
  11/07/25
she’s too well-known and recognizable to pull any shen...
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
We call him "Drumpf" here. "President Cheeto&...
pearl effete office toilet seat
  11/07/25
Based on her model baby bar answer a few years ago, yeah she...
ivory cowardly telephone
  11/07/25
apparently she failed that three times
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
luis failed the actual bar 3 times lmao
Honey-headed ceo
  11/08/25
i'm rooting for her.
opaque ratface parlor
  11/07/25
I think so. She's basically been studying just for the bar e...
Supple Cumskin
  11/07/25
she failed the baby bar three times though, and CA is a toug...
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
No. And if we don’t have a social media post from h...
Flickering rigpig foreskin
  11/07/25
She should be in prison for being a whore
violent apoplectic jew point
  11/07/25
that’s not illegal in California
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
...
Bat-shit-crazy tanning salon skinny woman
  11/07/25
encouraged, tbh
Canary charismatic native
  11/07/25
...
laughsome hairless stock car
  11/19/25
...
zombie-like masturbator
  11/07/25
it's a federal crime and she has crossed state lines
electric lettuce idiot
  11/08/25
Jesus. The Mann Act.
Exhilarant juggernaut shrine
  11/08/25
...
self-absorbed cyan striped hyena
  11/08/25
Anyone with an IQ above 70 can becum a lawyer.
House-broken whorehouse
  11/07/25
...
Topaz fortuitous meteor spot
  11/07/25
Results posted 30 mins ago. Still no confirmation on whether...
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
Results from the July 2025 bar exam will be released through...
opaque ratface parlor
  11/07/25
yes thank you however this is already addressed in the op
Impressive business firm
  11/07/25
my sincere apologies, friend.
opaque ratface parlor
  11/07/25
The answer is obviously no
Flickering rigpig foreskin
  11/07/25
Still no movement
Impressive business firm
  11/08/25
if she fails again it adds prestige to my brothers who have ...
self-absorbed cyan striped hyena
  11/08/25
The Cali bar can be tricky. The JDU admin failed it once and...
lime crusty voyeur
  11/08/25
lol she failed https://x.com/tmz/status/1987273266008850...
Impressive business firm
  11/08/25
https://x.com/yashar/status/1987273064426709247?s=61
concupiscible hell black woman
  11/08/25
She reports that she "was so close to passing."
chocolate mad-dog skullcap
  11/08/25
i hope she doesnt pass every year so we can make threads and...
Coral Cheese-eating School Cafeteria Digit Ratio
  11/08/25
BUMP 4 DIESEL!
Rambunctious hall
  11/08/25
...
Honey-headed ceo
  11/08/25
She’s gonna release another sex tape
violent apoplectic jew point
  11/08/25
Haven’t many states changed their bar exams to make th...
tan psychic
  11/08/25
she needs to fail. content creation uber alles.
electric lettuce idiot
  11/08/25
Her failing is pretty great because now that all the Kardash...
Supple Cumskin
  11/08/25
Trump is similar. Didn’t actually invent or create any...
Impressive business firm
  11/08/25
...
Odious University Trump Supporter
  11/09/25
...
disgusting base headpube
  11/09/25
What is even the point of trying to pass the bar for her? I...
disgusting base headpube
  11/09/25
lmao https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ac/4by3/2025/08/28/acb10d...
Exhilarant juggernaut shrine
  11/09/25
...
self-absorbed cyan striped hyena
  11/09/25
basically what Angie Varona was doing at The U law school
Honey-headed ceo
  11/09/25
...
Bat-shit-crazy tanning salon skinny woman
  11/14/25
...
Odious University Trump Supporter
  11/09/25
I also bar prepped in a string bikini
electric lettuce idiot
  11/09/25
...
Impressive business firm
  11/09/25
New Of Counsel uniform just dropped
Canary charismatic native
  11/09/25
I really wanted her to pass so that lawyers would be complet...
Canary charismatic native
  11/09/25
she confirms she failed, and she is blaming psychics for it ...
Exhilarant juggernaut shrine
  11/14/25
lmao this is why she was “100% confident” she pa...
Impressive business firm
  11/14/25
lol, insane how stupid you can be and still be a billionaire...
Honey-headed ceo
  11/14/25
cr look at Trump. he and Kim made their billions the same wa...
Impressive business firm
  11/14/25
nah son, Trump made big bucks going up against the jew shark...
Honey-headed ceo
  11/14/25
he didn’t actually create or invent anything new that ...
Impressive business firm
  11/14/25
you have zero idea what you’re talking about
Honey-headed ceo
  11/14/25
I love the "Filing for bankruptcy" thing. Trump h...
disgusting base headpube
  11/15/25
it was six times bro
Impressive business firm
  11/15/25
he himself never has. his Trump-branded businesses in the vo...
opaque ratface parlor
  11/15/25
it was SIX TIMES no matter how you try to spin it
Impressive business firm
  11/15/25
no it was ZERO TIMES no matter how often you copy paste the ...
Exhilarant juggernaut shrine
  11/15/25
America also voted in Ronald Reagan, a dashingly handsome bl...
Coral Cheese-eating School Cafeteria Digit Ratio
  11/15/25
...
Honey-headed ceo
  11/19/25
UPDATE https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1990926042232447230?s...
concupiscible hell black woman
  11/18/25
haha https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6E9DhPWwAA928Y?format=jpg...
Exhilarant juggernaut shrine
  11/18/25
...
Honey-headed ceo
  11/19/25
isnt she doing this on purpose for content
stirring shitlib partner
  11/19/25


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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

Results get posted today at 5:00 pm PST, public pass list gets posted Sunday. Pass rate was 68.2% last year. She says she’s 100% certain she passed fwiw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409567)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: pearl effete office toilet seat

Whoever took it for her did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409569)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

she’s too well-known and recognizable to pull any shenanigans like what Trump did when he took the SAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409574)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: pearl effete office toilet seat

We call him "Drumpf" here. "President Cheeto" also works (both because he's orange and he 'cheats' hah).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409580)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: ivory cowardly telephone

Based on her model baby bar answer a few years ago, yeah she probably passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409579)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

apparently she failed that three times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409581)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:11 AM
Author: Honey-headed ceo

luis failed the actual bar 3 times lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411871)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: opaque ratface parlor

i'm rooting for her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409586)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Supple Cumskin

I think so. She's basically been studying just for the bar exam for like 5 years now.

She's clearly somewhat intelligent - it's hard to imagine she can figure out how to become a billionaire through social media and reality TV and all of these businesses but can't remember the difference between attempted murder and conspiracy after 5 years of practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409664)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

she failed the baby bar three times though, and CA is a tough exam. Even the former dean of Stanford LS failed it on the first try

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409672)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Flickering rigpig foreskin

No.

And if we don’t have a social media post from her by 5:05 PST it’s PP confirmed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49409988)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: violent apoplectic jew point

She should be in prison for being a whore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410016)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

that’s not illegal in California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410179)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy tanning salon skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410181)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Canary charismatic native

encouraged, tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410309)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 2:19 AM
Author: laughsome hairless stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49443032)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: zombie-like masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410310)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:28 AM
Author: electric lettuce idiot

it's a federal crime and she has crossed state lines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411854)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:09 AM
Author: Exhilarant juggernaut shrine

Jesus. The Mann Act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411870)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: self-absorbed cyan striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412128)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: House-broken whorehouse

Anyone with an IQ above 70 can becum a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410312)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Topaz fortuitous meteor spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49410436)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

Results posted 30 mins ago. Still no confirmation on whether she passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411226)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: opaque ratface parlor

Results from the July 2025 bar exam will be released through the Applicant Portal to applicants on November 7, 2025, at 5:00 p.m. The pass list will be posted on the Examination Pass List webpage on Sunday, November 9, 2025.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411230)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

yes thank you however this is already addressed in the op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411262)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: opaque ratface parlor

my sincere apologies, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411487)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: Flickering rigpig foreskin

The answer is obviously no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49411332)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

Still no movement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412117)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: self-absorbed cyan striped hyena

if she fails again it adds prestige to my brothers who have been certified as "attorneys" by the state of california - so that's gotta be a no from me, dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412135)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: lime crusty voyeur

The Cali bar can be tricky. The JDU admin failed it once and he’s an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412148)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:40 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

lol she failed

https://x.com/tmz/status/1987273266008850686?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412958)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: concupiscible hell black woman

https://x.com/yashar/status/1987273064426709247?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412963)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: chocolate mad-dog skullcap

She reports that she "was so close to passing."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412968)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Coral Cheese-eating School Cafeteria Digit Ratio

i hope she doesnt pass every year so we can make threads and lollercaust about it (________)(________)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412975)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Rambunctious hall

BUMP 4 DIESEL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49412977)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Honey-headed ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413008)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: violent apoplectic jew point

She’s gonna release another sex tape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413018)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: tan psychic

Haven’t many states changed their bar exams to make them easier recently?

I remember reading a couple years ago how Delaware was revamping their exam, which I think was the hardest to pass in the country, with California, to make it easier because they weren’t getting enough minorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413058)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: electric lettuce idiot

she needs to fail. content creation uber alles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413090)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Supple Cumskin

Her failing is pretty great because now that all the Kardashians have gotten too big for their britches.

They're all billionaires and have successful businesses, Kim is hosting SNL and getting acting gigs, Kylie has a song, etc. Kim is fighting for criminal justice reform with the president and visiting prisons.

They produce their own show now so the narrative is that they're all super hard working, smart business women.

Turns out - no, they're not. Kim can't pass the bar exam after studying for 5 years. Her successful "business" is just ripping off Spanx and promoting it on her social media. She's not that great - turns out, when she has to do something anonymously on merit - she's in the bottom 1/3 of idiots taking the bar exam in California.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413199)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

Trump is similar. Didn’t actually invent or create anything new that people want, just licensed his name to actual business people. Total fraud, just like Kim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413207)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:44 AM
Author: Odious University Trump Supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413876)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: disgusting base headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413878)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:46 AM
Author: disgusting base headpube

What is even the point of trying to pass the bar for her? Is she going to hang a shingle and start doing bog bite cases? Come on man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: Exhilarant juggernaut shrine

lmao

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ac/4by3/2025/08/28/acb10df826464eae9ef39d0cae67699f_md.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413912)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: self-absorbed cyan striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413931)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Honey-headed ceo

basically what Angie Varona was doing at The U law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413935)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy tanning salon skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49430809)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: Odious University Trump Supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49414012)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: electric lettuce idiot

I also bar prepped in a string bikini

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49414527)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: Impressive business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49414537)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Canary charismatic native

New Of Counsel uniform just dropped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49414824)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Canary charismatic native

I really wanted her to pass so that lawyers would be completely and totally cucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49413971)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Exhilarant juggernaut shrine

she confirms she failed, and she is blaming psychics for it

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1988107487606980882?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49429933)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

lmao this is why she was “100% confident” she passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49429942)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: Honey-headed ceo

lol, insane how stupid you can be and still be a billionaire in America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49429986)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

cr look at Trump. he and Kim made their billions the same way (by creating a celebrity brand and licensing their name to actual businesspeople who know how to monetize it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49429991)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Honey-headed ceo

nah son, Trump made big bucks going up against the jew sharks in MFH real estate before branching out into other shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49430295)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Impressive business firm

he didn’t actually create or invent anything new that people want. he just created a faux rich image in between filing for bankruptcy six times and slapped it on a building

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49430760)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Honey-headed ceo

you have zero idea what you’re talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49430801)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 8:22 AM
Author: disgusting base headpube

I love the "Filing for bankruptcy" thing. Trump has filed for bankruptcy zero times, but low IQ libs keep copy and pasting this meme a DNC intern made up in 2015.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432693)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 9:09 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

it was six times bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432755)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: opaque ratface parlor

he himself never has. his Trump-branded businesses in the volatile Atlantic City market have filed for bankruptcy a handful of times, leading to debt restructuring and the eventual closing of the Taj Mahal casino.

par for the course for a major developer. no POTUS has ever had the business dealings or the business successes Trump has. that's just an objective fact.

and oh by the way he's also had massive success in building golf courses. and in running a wildly successful tv show. and in jumping into politics and winning his very first race -- the 2016 POTUS race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432843)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: Impressive business firm

it was SIX TIMES no matter how you try to spin it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432973)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: Exhilarant juggernaut shrine

no it was ZERO TIMES no matter how often you copy paste the intern’s bogus line from 2015

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432979)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Coral Cheese-eating School Cafeteria Digit Ratio

America also voted in Ronald Reagan, a dashingly handsome bloke, fatface Clinton and his sticky cigars, and now Trump a known child fucker and scoundrel who's companies have filed bancrupty multiple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49432980)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 3:00 AM
Author: Honey-headed ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49443058)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: concupiscible hell black woman

UPDATE

https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1990926042232447230?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49442492)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Exhilarant juggernaut shrine

haha

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6E9DhPWwAA928Y?format=jpg&name=900x900

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49442757)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: Honey-headed ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49443023)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 2:19 AM
Author: stirring shitlib partner

isnt she doing this on purpose for content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2/#49443031)