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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: snowy keepsake machete

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
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just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Insecure Flushed Coldplay Fan Nowag

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098591)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: histrionic magical dilemma filthpig

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: nofapping startling associate private investor

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: histrionic magical dilemma filthpig

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: nofapping startling associate private investor

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: histrionic magical dilemma filthpig

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Racy organic girlfriend

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: lascivious main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: chocolate liquid oxygen site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: amber set round eye

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: charismatic whorehouse

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: saffron spot

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Racy organic girlfriend

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: medicated orange tanning salon

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Rambunctious shivering school

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Rebellious Death Wish

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Dead trump supporter plaza

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Copper Corner Really Tough Guy

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/#49458174)