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Anyone Play Expedition 33

Mind blowing story in that game
Floppy mexican
  06/28/25
if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great star...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  06/28/25
lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the...
Floppy mexican
  06/28/25
i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/25/25
The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is s...
excitant offensive market
  06/28/25
I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games
topaz principal's office milk
  06/28/25
It’s Free on Gamepass
Floppy mexican
  06/28/25
Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $24...
topaz principal's office milk
  06/28/25
I forgot you are Poor
Floppy mexican
  06/28/25
I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people
topaz principal's office milk
  06/28/25
You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 pu...
wonderful fishy theatre
  06/28/25
I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.
topaz principal's office milk
  06/28/25
The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass...
High-end new version forum
  06/30/25
You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (some...
High-end new version forum
  06/30/25
Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back t...
vermilion rigpig parlor
  06/28/25
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excitant offensive market
  06/28/25
...
Floppy mexican
  06/28/25
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free-loading crackhouse
  06/30/25
...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
The Paintress did nothing wrong.
wonderful fishy theatre
  06/30/25
what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to m...
free-loading crackhouse
  06/30/25
Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games ...
vermilion rigpig parlor
  06/30/25
yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep r...
free-loading crackhouse
  06/30/25
Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got tu...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  06/30/25
...
free-loading crackhouse
  06/30/25
lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/25/25
cowshit says “I never know where to go in western game...
wonderful fishy theatre
  09/25/25
imagine him trying to play some game with old school map des...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/25/25
I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. ...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  09/25/25
(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell do...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/26/25
Kislev sewers was annoying but fine. I do admit I had som...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  09/26/25
Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few gam...
High-end new version forum
  06/30/25
(Doodikoff)
vermilion rigpig parlor
  06/30/25
this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like...
free-loading crackhouse
  06/30/25
No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn
Bronze electric furnace becky
  06/30/25
Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  06/30/25
(Kojima sheds a tear)
topaz principal's office milk
  06/30/25
I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  06/30/25
It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter tha...
topaz principal's office milk
  06/30/25
I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bi...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  09/25/25
lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish. oh wow games...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/25/25
Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  09/25/25
oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit"...
Aromatic whorehouse gaping
  09/26/25
It is on my to do list.
High-end new version forum
  06/30/25
It's called a Backlog champ
Bronze electric furnace becky
  06/30/25
...
disrespectful umber abode goyim
  09/25/25
You should just play this one
Floppy mexican
  07/11/25
im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff ope...
free-loading crackhouse
  07/21/25
I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll ...
unholy mildly autistic double fault
  09/25/25
...
disrespectful umber abode goyim
  09/25/25
UE5 rock walls
Milky friendly grandma foreskin
  09/25/25
No one has and it’s Forgotten
topaz principal's office milk
  09/25/25
Gtfo
wonderful fishy theatre
  09/25/25
It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fuc...
topaz principal's office milk
  09/25/25
I fail to see how that’s relevant.
wonderful fishy theatre
  09/25/25
🙄
topaz principal's office milk
  09/25/25
...
disrespectful umber abode goyim
  09/25/25
...
Bronze electric furnace becky
  09/25/25
first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one...
razzle casino legend
  09/25/25
No western game is "balanced"
topaz principal's office milk
  09/26/25
I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat ...
razzle casino legend
  09/26/25
Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past w...
unholy mildly autistic double fault
  09/30/25
It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might wa...
Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend
  10/01/25
I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of...
unholy mildly autistic double fault
  10/03/25
For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
I thought this was the best game of the last several years. ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25


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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:07 AM
Author: Floppy mexican

Mind blowing story in that game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49055512)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:13 AM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great start but it goes absolutely nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49055518)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Floppy mexican

lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the truth. Nobody disputes that it goes “somewhere” because the story is fully explained and realized. How far did you get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056037)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the plot depth and pacing of a fetch quest laden open-world MMORPG. it has one of the dumbest "twists" of all time and then the amount they flesh out the whole "painters/writers" feud is laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303270)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: excitant offensive market

The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is still profound and 180. Addressing the rampant escapism prevalent in modern life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056618)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056038)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Floppy mexican

It’s Free on Gamepass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056043)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $240/yr on games, therefore it costs money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056045)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Floppy mexican

I forgot you are Poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056105)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056118)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: wonderful fishy theatre

You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 purchase decimated your Net Worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056136)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056573)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: High-end new version forum

The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass and then Nvidia Geforce Now streaming. Then you stream to your 42-48" oled screen in 4k at 120hz via your laptop. Better than the PS5 Pro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060663)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: High-end new version forum

You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (sometimes less) that is 3ish games/year. You'll probably buy several more games anyway but you'll also play like 5-10 games on gamepass, so unless you very rarely game it is a fantastic deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060657)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: vermilion rigpig parlor

Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back to making turn based RPGs because E33 was a huge success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056599)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: excitant offensive market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49056612)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: Floppy mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49057140)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: free-loading crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060099)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49418981)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: wonderful fishy theatre

The Paintress did nothing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060064)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: free-loading crackhouse

what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to make turn based rpgs not purely a grind/math fest. could've used a minimap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060112)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: vermilion rigpig parlor

Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games should copy e33 and elden ring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060167)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: free-loading crackhouse

yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep running around like a retard and unintentionally grinding when id rather retain the difficulty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060427)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got turned around a lot and was hard to reorient myself. They could’ve done a better job with more in-game landmarks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060662)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: free-loading crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49061221)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:43 PM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex layouts. u would have been fucked during the PS1/Dreamcast/PS2 era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303273)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: wonderful fishy theatre

cowshit says “I never know where to go in western games” and I don’t get it at all, they all practically hold your hand the entire way through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303276)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

imagine him trying to play some game with old school map design like OG Tomb Raider or Turok or Shadowman and just getting lost in a single section of a level for hours dying over and over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303278)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. Had a similar issue in Rebirth which i loved too. Was never an issue in From games.

PS1 and Dreamcast games were easy. How could anyone get lost in the simple layouts in Grandia and Skies of Arcadia? Most PS1 games were just pre-rendered. The 3D stuff like Xenogears wasn’t hard to get around and was only annoying because of random battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303758)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:22 AM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell down the Tower of Babel 20 times and is now trying to play it off by blaming the encounter rate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304380)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:24 AM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

Kislev sewers was annoying but fine.

I do admit I had some rough falls in the tower and might’ve yelled at my tv a few times. Isn’t that a right of passage though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304382)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: High-end new version forum

Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few games I regret buying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060668)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: vermilion rigpig parlor

(Doodikoff)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49061252)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: free-loading crackhouse

this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like he beat a souls type game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49061258)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: Bronze electric furnace becky

No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060207)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing FF should be striving to be.

Between this and Kingdom Come 2, games are on fire this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060458)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

(Kojima sheds a tear)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060532)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig into that beast for at least a month or so. Everything I’ve heard about it is positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060567)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter than the first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060625)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bit but got bored about halfway through. Not sure I’m going to finish. Digging Silksong right now but have a feeling I’ll lose interest in this before the end too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303769)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish.

oh wow games are "on fire" because of a Two Worlds 2 clone that lets you protect jews and fuck other men in the ass. and a slop JRPG with a cast of man-jawed lesbians and an underdeveloped plot but decent graphics. wow it's a fucking renaissance. faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303277)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones. Go make some more posts about your 5090. What an odd dude who posts all the time about his gaming PC but hates games. Go back to Reddit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303765)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Aromatic whorehouse gaping

oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit" just so happens to have the exact same taste in games as the median redditor. they LOVE Kingdom Slop 2 and Troon Obscur there.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304384)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: High-end new version forum

It is on my to do list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060584)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: Bronze electric furnace becky

It's called a Backlog champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49060595)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: disrespectful umber abode goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304019)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Floppy mexican

You should just play this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49093156)



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Date: July 21st, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: free-loading crackhouse

im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff opened up after the end of the main story as im sure ill one shot the final boss now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49118455)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: unholy mildly autistic double fault

I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll see what unfolds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49302644)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: disrespectful umber abode goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303164)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: Milky friendly grandma foreskin

UE5 rock walls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303150)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

No one has and it’s Forgotten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303171)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: wonderful fishy theatre

Gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303205)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fucking SECOND.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303449)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: wonderful fishy theatre

I fail to see how that’s relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303681)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303894)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: disrespectful umber abode goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304018)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: Bronze electric furnace becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303282)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: razzle casino legend

first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one shotted. needs more balance.

but still good game. worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49303571)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: topaz principal's office milk

No western game is "balanced"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304392)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: razzle casino legend

I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat OP, things were still a little difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49304843)



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Date: September 30th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: unholy mildly autistic double fault

Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past week+ and it is indeed a Triumph. Kind of annoying how I ended act 2 at level 48 thinking I was close to wrapping up the game but every act 3 zone seems to be 10+ levels higher though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49315584)



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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Emerald Sticky Kitchen Organic Girlfriend

It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might want to beeline and finish the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49317505)



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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: unholy mildly autistic double fault

I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of the game, but still overall very good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49323075)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the game. Everything else are just challenges (the endless tower, for example).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2/#49418987)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:53 PM
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I thought this was the best game of the last several years. Memorable story with characters you actually care about, mechanics were great, and the sort of game you think about after beating it.

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