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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
High-end striped hyena boiling water
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Fragrant cruel-hearted yarmulke
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
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they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
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  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
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Crimson Excitant Theater Stage
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
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  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
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Cr. Thats city janitor money
impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant
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Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Jet mind-boggling indirect expression
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
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  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Odious gas station goyim
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
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  06/15/18
sounds 180
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
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For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
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  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
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Explain
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Elite nursing home
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yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Azure Idiot Affirmative Action
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
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I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
very tactful stimulating garrison pozpig
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
titillating tripping athletic conference gaping
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
High-end striped hyena boiling water
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
High-end striped hyena boiling water
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
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i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
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They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Multi-colored telephone
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No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
very tactful stimulating garrison pozpig
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Multi-colored telephone
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
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  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
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  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
avocado kitchen
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
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lol no
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how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Fragrant cruel-hearted yarmulke

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: sinister step-uncle's house shitlib

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: thriller nudist kitty cat church building

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: bisexual theatre useless brakes

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible submissive locus

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Crimson Excitant Theater Stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Concupiscible submissive locus

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: wonderful obsidian menage tattoo

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Spectacular lay idea he suggested



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Jet mind-boggling indirect expression

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: primrose arrogant library weed whacker

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Odious gas station goyim

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: thriller nudist kitty cat church building

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible submissive locus

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Spectacular lay idea he suggested



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Crimson Excitant Theater Stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Lilac Factory Reset Button

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: impressive soul-stirring circlehead legal warrant



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: sinister step-uncle's house shitlib



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Crimson Excitant Theater Stage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Crimson Excitant Theater Stage

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Odious gas station goyim



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Elite nursing home



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Comical navy old irish cottage

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: 180 ticket booth wagecucks

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: 180 ticket booth wagecucks

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Elite nursing home



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Azure Idiot Affirmative Action

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: erotic potus

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: drunken national security agency preventive strike



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Crimson Excitant Theater Stage



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: very tactful stimulating garrison pozpig

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: titillating tripping athletic conference gaping

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar antidepressant drug

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle bipolar antidepressant drug

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Multi-colored telephone

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: drunken national security agency preventive strike



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: very tactful stimulating garrison pozpig

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Multi-colored telephone

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: avocado kitchen

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Multi-colored telephone

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: avocado kitchen

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: titillating tripping athletic conference gaping

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: dead trust fund

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: dull station gaming laptop

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Bateful immigrant



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Contagious pit

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: High-end striped hyena boiling water



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