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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: painfully honest mother giraffe “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Carnelian messiness police squad As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253562) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: metal cerebral coffee pot lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Racy national security agency digit ratio they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Stirring jade friendly grandma pit oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Salmon Kitty Cat they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: metal cerebral coffee pot lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: zippy telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Salmon Kitty Cat 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Federal hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: metal cerebral coffee pot lay Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: blue at-the-ready theater goal in life Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: doobsian geriatric business firm incel How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Mahogany Effete Associate Stage It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Racy national security agency digit ratio they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253002) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#43231447) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Pearl brethren yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Purple shrine rigpig To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: beady-eyed dragon jew I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: razzmatazz orchid jap state Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: razzmatazz orchid jap state That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Pale talking spot boiling water i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: mint kitty They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: beady-eyed dragon jew No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: mint kitty Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: mint kitty That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2/#41936016) |
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