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Why does America suck at soccer?

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vengeful pisswyrm
  05/30/12
All our good athletes go into other sports.
trip magical sweet tailpipe
  05/30/12
hypo: all US national/olympic team members are offered $5M/y...
vengeful pisswyrm
  05/30/12
That's insulting to NBA and NFL stars
yellow goal in life azn
  05/30/12
how many current NBA/NFL stars are elite soccer players? ...
vengeful pisswyrm
  05/31/12
None of them trained for soccer, pumbro
yellow goal in life azn
  05/31/12
steve nash and chad ochocinco come to mind olajuwon was a...
vengeful pisswyrm
  05/31/12
is this a long term project? you have to start soccer before...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
lol like what? because literally zero mlb/nfl/nba types are ...
misanthropic lilac point
  05/31/12
america invented baseball because she couldn't compete in cr...
Beady-eyed site pocket flask
  05/30/12
all of our players except dempsey and howard are midgets or ...
Silver jap senate
  05/30/12
dempsey is world class these days.
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/30/12
i dont disagree, but he's hurt all the time and he cant do i...
Silver jap senate
  05/30/12
wtf? he played 37 of 38 EPL games this year
ruby piazza hairy legs
  05/31/12
he's also been hurt the last three weeks and missed a game a...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
oh, so the last 3 weeks is "all the time" now? he...
ruby piazza hairy legs
  05/31/12
i'll be honest bro, i don't really give a fuck about fucking...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
Just wait until 2030 when we're half Mexican.
yellow goal in life azn
  05/31/12
thats why Dempsey is good, he played only against Mexicans g...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
he's good because he's the best. the roaches he played again...
startling outnumbered state crotch
  05/31/12
mexicans are not that good though. in fact, for a country of...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
and a lot of the ones in the US are from regions of mexico w...
Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann
  05/31/12
plus they're fat as fuck.
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
coppin dat pan dulce, chicharrones, horchata, sopapillas, ag...
Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann
  05/31/12
It's a stupid sport and we have the money to play better one...
Diverse step-uncle's house
  05/31/12
it's identified too much as a kid's sport our white europ...
Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann
  05/31/12
well, it should be a kid's sport. you have to start young. I...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
Our best athletes don't play it. Case solved!!
Heady Slap-happy Scourge Upon The Earth
  05/31/12
this argument sure makes americans feel better
ruby piazza hairy legs
  05/31/12
Yes because if it's one thing Americans care about its socce...
Heady Slap-happy Scourge Upon The Earth
  05/31/12
Yet we have so many posts from "non-soccer fans" w...
ruby piazza hairy legs
  05/31/12
Wait! Wasn't Freddy Adu supposed to be the next Maradona?
Beady-eyed site pocket flask
  05/31/12
It doesn't. But it is not truly elite like Brazil or Spain o...
Bright rigor
  05/31/12
i thought we looked decent against brazil. we played an open...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
our kids grow up with poor coaching in poor youth set ups. a...
Nofapping puppy
  05/31/12
'america is the only country where kids have to pay to play ...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
(mitt romney)
ruby piazza hairy legs
  05/31/12
i mean parents have to pay for their kids to play soccer in ...
Nofapping puppy
  05/31/12
yeah, a soccer player has to be groomed from early childhood...
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
wrong. clubs primarily fund the youth programs, not the nat...
flatulent water buffalo karate
  05/31/12
this is essentially true. i was referring more to the schoo...
Nofapping puppy
  05/31/12
because we don't give a shit about soccer and never will. so...
Soul-stirring khaki institution
  05/31/12
o rly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKfVHMQ108
flatulent water buffalo karate
  05/31/12
to be fair, the World Cup and Gold Cup both beat the NBA Fin...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
how about the olympic hockey finals?
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
im sure those were higher, olympics are a different jingoist...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
so are the world and gold cups.
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
the charge was "we don't give a shit about soccer and n...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
should have been "we don't give a shit about soccer for...
Soul-stirring khaki institution
  05/31/12
in fairness bro outside of the NFL for what sport is this tr...
Silver jap senate
  05/31/12
baseball, basketball, and to a lesser extent, golf and hocke...
Soul-stirring khaki institution
  05/31/12
Referring to WC 2010 ticket purchases, "According to th...
flatulent water buffalo karate
  05/31/12
not enough opportunities for commercial breaks. cut each hal...
canary mediation
  05/31/12
timeouts are so gay.
Unholy antidepressant drug
  05/31/12
why do you hate america bro? the endless lite beer and picku...
canary mediation
  05/31/12
shut up faggot it's not because you don't like how the nba a...
startling outnumbered state crotch
  05/31/12
sadly true. no major network will give it a chance unless t...
Nofapping puppy
  05/31/12
lol not live enjoy that faggot
startling outnumbered state crotch
  05/31/12
cr lol at this countttry
misanthropic lilac point
  05/31/12
soccer's already passed hockey nationally. but for the next ...
canary mediation
  05/31/12
not a single professional soccer player coming from those pl...
startling outnumbered state crotch
  05/31/12
i think they'll have no problem finding pro soccer players f...
canary mediation
  05/31/12
kasey keller is from the seattle area
Nofapping puppy
  05/31/12
The US isn't that bad. We've won the same number of world c...
Grizzly crackhouse
  05/31/12
doing surprisingly well in 2026, actually rooting for nor...
nyuug
  07/01/26


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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:55 PM
Author: vengeful pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796815)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:56 PM
Author: trip magical sweet tailpipe

All our good athletes go into other sports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796825)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:58 PM
Author: vengeful pisswyrm

hypo: all US national/olympic team members are offered $5M/yr contracts

does this make us better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796844)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: yellow goal in life azn

That's insulting to NBA and NFL stars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796852)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: vengeful pisswyrm

how many current NBA/NFL stars are elite soccer players?

i don't see much overlap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796860)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:01 AM
Author: yellow goal in life azn

None of them trained for soccer, pumbro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796873)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:03 AM
Author: vengeful pisswyrm

steve nash and chad ochocinco come to mind

olajuwon was a soccer player originally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796882)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

is this a long term project? you have to start soccer before the age of 10 at the latest. it's not like basketball, football, boxing which you can pick up in a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796865)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: misanthropic lilac point

lol like what? because literally zero mlb/nfl/nba types are suited to play fifa level soccer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797398)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed site pocket flask

america invented baseball because she couldn't compete in cricket. america invented gridiron football because she couldn't compete in rugby/football (euro)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796839)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 PM
Author: Silver jap senate

all of our players except dempsey and howard are midgets or castoffs from other countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796835)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

dempsey is world class these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796850)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: Silver jap senate

i dont disagree, but he's hurt all the time and he cant do it alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796856)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:05 AM
Author: ruby piazza hairy legs

wtf? he played 37 of 38 EPL games this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796902)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:14 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

he's also been hurt the last three weeks and missed a game and a half when he's the team's most impt player

we were damn lucky he played in South Africa at all. his aggressiveness is one of his best traits but also one of his biggest vulnerabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796977)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:35 AM
Author: ruby piazza hairy legs

oh, so the last 3 weeks is "all the time" now? he's played in 175 of the last 190 premier league games. very few wingers/strikers play that many games over a 5 year span

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797169)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:41 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

i'll be honest bro, i don't really give a fuck about fucking fulham.

he's missed multiple national team games (of which there are fewer, thus each more important) in 2009, 2010, and 2012 due to injury.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797225)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: yellow goal in life azn

Just wait until 2030 when we're half Mexican.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796859)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

thats why Dempsey is good, he played only against Mexicans growing up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796864)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: startling outnumbered state crotch

he's good because he's the best. the roaches he played against in nagadoches weren't shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796877)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

mexicans are not that good though. in fact, for a country of 120mm with soccer as their #1 sport they're pretty piss poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796879)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:04 AM
Author: Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann

and a lot of the ones in the US are from regions of mexico where baseball is more popular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796896)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:08 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

plus they're fat as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796929)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann

coppin dat pan dulce, chicharrones, horchata, sopapillas, agua frescas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796952)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Diverse step-uncle's house

It's a stupid sport and we have the money to play better ones.

Why would you want to kick a ball around like a retard when you can play a sport with precision with your hands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796862)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:04 AM
Author: Internet-worthy stirring community account boltzmann

it's identified too much as a kid's sport

our white european population is too removed from europe by too many generations

a big share of our hispanics are from northern mexico followed by the caribbean and those places prefer baseball

filipinos are a big share of our asian population - again, baseball

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796892)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

well, it should be a kid's sport. you have to start young. I don't think kid stars stop playing once they reach adolescence. probably only the mediocre ones.

filipinos play basketball.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796949)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:06 AM
Author: Heady Slap-happy Scourge Upon The Earth

Our best athletes don't play it.

Case solved!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796910)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: ruby piazza hairy legs

this argument sure makes americans feel better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796918)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:09 AM
Author: Heady Slap-happy Scourge Upon The Earth

Yes because if it's one thing Americans care about its soccer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796936)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:11 AM
Author: ruby piazza hairy legs

Yet we have so many posts from "non-soccer fans" wondering why we're so bad. Americans hate losing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796950)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:07 AM
Author: Beady-eyed site pocket flask

Wait! Wasn't Freddy Adu supposed to be the next Maradona?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796914)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:08 AM
Author: Bright rigor

It doesn't. But it is not truly elite like Brazil or Spain or Netherlands either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20796924)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:17 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

i thought we looked decent against brazil. we played an open game which led to us giving up 4 goals but that's okay during a friendly. you have to learn how to not simply bunker if you want to be elite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797004)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:16 AM
Author: Nofapping puppy

our kids grow up with poor coaching in poor youth set ups. america is the only country where kids have to pay to play soccer.

also, kids leagues are 11-on-11 and played on adult-sized fields with adult-sized goals. kids aren't able to get enough touches on the ball to develop technique, and they have to resort to lumping it through the air to get it down the field. in spain and holland, kids only play 5-on-5 or 7-on-7 on half-sized fields. in brazil and argentina, they play futsal.

lastly, americans care about victory above all else, even in kids leagues. as a result, athletic kids dominate even when they have shitty technique. smaller, slower kids don't have a chance to improve, while athletic kids coast by on their temporary advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797001)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:31 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

'america is the only country where kids have to pay to play soccer.'

you mean they're forced?

rest seems credited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797129)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:35 AM
Author: ruby piazza hairy legs

(mitt romney)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797173)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:36 AM
Author: Nofapping puppy

i mean parents have to pay for their kids to play soccer in competitive leagues

that's not the case in europe. each nation's football association funds their youth programs so parents don't have to pay. this gives poor kids like wayne rooney a chance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797182)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:42 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

yeah, a soccer player has to be groomed from early childhood like a gymnast.

in south america it's mostly the top clubs that sponsor youth academies, isn't it? i thought that was the case in europe as well.

i suppose american clubs don't have enough history yet to consider a long term project like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797238)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:43 AM
Author: flatulent water buffalo karate

wrong. clubs primarily fund the youth programs, not the national associations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797243)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:48 AM
Author: Nofapping puppy

this is essentially true. i was referring more to the schoolboy/sunday/non-league programs that any kid can sign up for, not the club youth programs which recruit and sign kids.

EDIT: although in England, the FA does also partially funds league clubs' youth programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797290)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:43 AM
Author: Soul-stirring khaki institution

because we don't give a shit about soccer and never will. sorry, libs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797246)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:45 AM
Author: flatulent water buffalo karate

o rly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKfVHMQ108

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797258)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:47 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

to be fair, the World Cup and Gold Cup both beat the NBA Finals and Stanley Cup Finals in those years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797275)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:49 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

how about the olympic hockey finals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797296)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:51 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

im sure those were higher, olympics are a different jingoistic animal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797317)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:52 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

so are the world and gold cups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797338)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:53 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

the charge was "we don't give a shit about soccer and never will"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797342)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: Soul-stirring khaki institution

should have been "we don't give a shit about soccer for more than 2 weeks at a time and never will" i stand corrected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797373)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:56 AM
Author: Silver jap senate

in fairness bro outside of the NFL for what sport is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797381)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: Soul-stirring khaki institution

baseball, basketball, and to a lesser extent, golf and hockey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797395)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:54 AM
Author: flatulent water buffalo karate

Referring to WC 2010 ticket purchases, "According to the South African organizing committee and FIFA, soccer's international governing body, more than 130,000 of the 2.8 million tickets were purchased by U.S. residents, the highest total by any country other than South Africa."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797355)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:52 AM
Author: canary mediation

not enough opportunities for commercial breaks. cut each half in half, make timeouts mandatory before PKs and free kicks, give every team a bunch of 30 second timeouts to use. then watch the game flourish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797329)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:54 AM
Author: Unholy antidepressant drug

timeouts are so gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797352)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: canary mediation

why do you hate america bro? the endless lite beer and pickup truck commercials filled with eagles and shit are what makes are baseball, football, and ncaa tournament great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797388)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: startling outnumbered state crotch

shut up faggot it's not because you don't like how the nba and nfl are run its because athletic americans don't play soccer. they never will

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797393)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 12:59 AM
Author: Nofapping puppy

sadly true. no major network will give it a chance unless they can cop dat ad revenue.

at least fox has started showing the champions league final and some marquee premiership games (i remember seeing spurs-arsenal on fox, although it wasn't live)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797400)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:00 AM
Author: startling outnumbered state crotch

lol not live enjoy that faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797412)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:02 AM
Author: misanthropic lilac point

cr

lol at this countttry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797439)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:12 AM
Author: canary mediation

soccer's already passed hockey nationally. but for the next decade it will be the favorite sport of lib cities like seattle that don't have other traditional teams and mid-size cities in the southwest and midwest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797543)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:13 AM
Author: startling outnumbered state crotch

not a single professional soccer player coming from those places in the next 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797553)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:30 AM
Author: canary mediation

i think they'll have no problem finding pro soccer players from mexican communities in the southwest.

does the pacific NW produce any athletes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797682)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 1:31 AM
Author: Nofapping puppy

kasey keller is from the seattle area

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20797689)



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Date: May 31st, 2012 7:46 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse

The US isn't that bad. We've won the same number of world cups as the Dutch, and only one less than Spain, England and France.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#20798550)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:22 PM
Author: nyuug

doing surprisingly well in 2026, actually

rooting for norway to win it all though, for obvious reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1960272&forum_id=2/#49974713)