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Elon Musk's proposed Boring Company tunnel is literally parallel to Blue Line
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:19 PM Author: crusty national http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/elon-musk-tunnel-loop-phare/img/map.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37560911) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:25 PM Author: topaz whorehouse lol wtf?
there's a huge transit black hole between the north side (lincoln park, lakeview, uptown) and the nice parts of the northwest side (bucktown, logan square, irving park). I have no idea why he wouldn't build something there. |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:29 PM Author: crusty national and I believe this is designed to transport cars. Seems like injecting even more cars into downtown is the last thing they need. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37560976) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:43 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Karate Property Initially, at least, this is just for high speed transit between the Loop and ORD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561089) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM Author: crusty national it doesn't really take that long to get from ORD to the Loop on the blue line now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561100) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:48 PM Author: rose bawdyhouse pozpig yeah, i was pretty surprised honestly. wouldn't be where i'd expect this kind of thing to be used. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561121) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:49 PM Author: crusty national it seems like the $5B or however much this ends up costing could probably be put to better use in Chicago, but IDK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561127) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:10 PM Author: rose bawdyhouse pozpig apparently the city won't be paying for it, but i don't know how true that will be.
hopefully the drilling will open a sink hole and the entire city will collapse into it. |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:35 AM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease It takes 42 minutes on the blue line best case scenario vs. estimated 12 minutes using the new tunnel. Huge difference in QOL. You would never have to think about whether to Uber vs. train. Basically as good as a downtown airport. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565532) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:45 AM Author: tan state really tough guy Except this train is going to one station downtown and your hotel may be far from it and only a certain number of trains will go per hour. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565607) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM Author: crusty national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565618) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease Yes, but still faster to Uber from teh downtown station, than catch an Uber at ORD unless you're coming in at like midnight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565621) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM Author: Vigorous lay Also this will be expensive as fuark to actually use. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590454) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:47 PM Author: rose bawdyhouse pozpig it's for moving people between downtown and the airport. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561110) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM Author: crusty national correct me if I'm wrong, but the Blue Line currently serves that same function (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561143) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:03 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Karate Property Correct, the blue line does it in about 40 minutes, this should be substantially less.
Musk is supposed to be bankrolling the whole thing himself as a test case for his tunneling tech. |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:56 PM Author: Vigorous lay It would only make sense to do this with Uber/driverless cars, at which point you may as well just have a train. WTF good does a car do you at the airport? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590486) |
Date: January 9th, 2019 4:27 PM Author: Slate antidepressant drug kitchen How can he possibly get insurance for this shit? If it goes wrong the claims are billions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37560958) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:33 PM Author: crusty national just lol at how much of a fucking fraud this thing is:
"The project has some detractors who don’t see it as feasible. The Boring Company says that it can do it for about $1 billion, which is a fraction of what a 17-mile tunnel would generally cost."
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM Author: Salmon fantasy-prone people who are hurt candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561055) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:44 PM Author: abusive love of her life striped hyena it's almost as if construction is generally run by entrenched frauds and dumbasses and a smart 180 dude comes along and is like "wow i can do it for WAY less $$$$" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561091) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM Author: crusty national yeah i'm sure that's it or Elon could just be the biggest fraud and dumbass in the entire world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561105) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM Author: frozen water buffalo station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561130) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM Author: Crystalline hairraiser den preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561187) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:51 PM Author: Concupiscible slap-happy native azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561569) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:47 PM Author: Appetizing ruddy party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566047) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:36 PM Author: trip electric furnace toilet seat This is an idiotic take. The issue with construction is it is a risky, low-margin business so there is no money for R&D. And it is really political and legal issues (obtaining ROW, fighting interest group lawsuits, and greasing the wheel politically) holding things up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566501) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM Author: Slate antidepressant drug kitchen The costs aren’t the part that bothers me. It’s the potential liability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561133) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM Author: crusty national WILL SOMEONE CONSIDER THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561140) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM Author: Salmon fantasy-prone people who are hurt candlestick maker Musk will be sharing a jail cell with Shkreli before the end of the Trump presidency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561060) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:58 PM Author: azure legal warrant theater (pedo guy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561172) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:04 PM Author: Jet galvanic keepsake machete senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561231) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM Author: Crystalline hairraiser den preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561189) |
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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:09 PM Author: tan state really tough guy Chicago for some reason has been obsessed with an express train to/from O'Hare. They lately tried to trick private investors to build it and let them keep the proceeds. It will never, ever make a profit. The train ridership from O'hare to downtown is a lot lower than you'd think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37561261) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: Turquoise Locus I don't understand it but it's been proposed off and on for years
Fucccck ORD cabs though. Anything that fucks with them is cool by me |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:00 AM Author: supple office Musk is 180 and that fact that he got something - ANYTHING - built in CA is a testament to his willpower and genius.
This probably has more to do with the crooked city council than anything else. |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:29 AM Author: Salmon fantasy-prone people who are hurt candlestick maker No he's not. He took a used sewage tunnel boring machine and bored a tunnel at the cost and in the time that sewage tunnels are bored, then drove a Tesla through it and pretended it was some kind of act of breakthrough genius (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565484) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:39 AM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease That's the whole point. Simply use smaller tunnels that can be dug 10x faster and potentially 100x cheaper. And then spend some of the savings on the car transport platforms that are automated so they can run 2x-3x the normal flow of traffic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565561) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:42 AM Author: Vigorous lay All that to shave 30 minutes off the commute time to O'Hare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565582) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:44 AM Author: crusty national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565592) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:48 AM Author: frozen water buffalo station oh what a grand thinker! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565631) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:51 AM Author: tan state really tough guy The Blue Line is running at maximum capacity (trains/hour) during rush hour and the train cars are packed like boxes of sardines. And they are still building new condos along it. It desperately needs a system upgrade but nope, gotta have some dat airport express! |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:56 AM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease Musk is footing the bill himself. Takes no funding from teh blue line. And this would reduce blue line ridership. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565708) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:08 PM Author: tan state really tough guy The number of airportmos on the blue line train take up one car, max. And not all of these people care about paying premium to get to D/T quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565777) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: crusty national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590447) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:54 AM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease 30 minutes is a lot. 80,000 take the blue line from ORD now. Probably at least 2-3x that if you include the taxis and Uber. 200,000 people per day = 100,000 man-hours * $20/hr = $2M per day saved.
Plus you reduce a lot of Uber traffic on I90.
Anyway, the point is it's all private funding, so why the hell not. If Elon can't turn a profit, who cares. Not sure why anyone would oppose it. |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: tan state really tough guy Ridership was 11,000/day in 2017. And a not trivial amount of that is O'hare employees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37565906) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:35 PM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease Why don't employees count?
Anyway, this is where I saw the 80k:
“The Blue Line is seeing unprecedented investment,” said CTA spokesman Brian Steele. The Blue Line is the service’s second busiest line, after the Red Line, and the branch between downtown and O’Hare sees more than 80,000 riders on an average weekday.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/wisniewski/ct-biz-blue-line-improvements-getting-around-20180614-story.html |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: crusty national How many CTA employees are hopping on the blue line from the loop? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566005) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: Turquoise Locus CR. Shit, how many ORD employees even live on the North aside, period? They're hopping on at fucking Forest Park. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566013) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: crusty national I guess they could change over from Red if they live on the south side, but still. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566026) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease I don't know what the actual stats are (just going by the article). But the point is this is privately funded. Even if only 1000 people take it, that's still 1000 less in the sardine car or on the freeway.
Musk: trying to fix shitty transport using his own cash You: Purell |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: crusty national yeah man Musk is just being super altruistic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566133) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: Turquoise Locus *autistic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566148) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM Author: crusty national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566152) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:23 PM Author: Mint Abode Mad Cow Disease No, he thinks he might make a profit. If you think it's a losing venture, then don't invest, and feel free to mock him later when it fails. But there is no reason to oppose the plan or talk about lack of funding of the blue line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37566384) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:53 PM Author: Vigorous lay He's "fixing" Chicago's least important traffic issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590466) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM Author: Vigorous lay It's gonna cost $70 to ride this thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590458) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: Vigorous lay Someone needs to run a train line that connects the Western suburbs to the north side. Would be running at near capacity with a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590440) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: crusty national someone needs to run a train on Musk's boihole in prison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590452) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:00 PM Author: tan state really tough guy You mean like this:
https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/system-map
(and rush hour trains run are jam packed) |
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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:41 AM Author: Vigorous lay No, I mean something that runs northeast from the Eisenhower around Oak Park and runs straight to like Addison and Clark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37607581) |
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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:03 PM Author: Turquoise Locus They have trains. I don't want it any easier for Byrwynmos to get to the city. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37590773) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 9:19 AM Author: crusty national https://www.arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/local-leaders-cooling-to-boring-company-tunnel-promises (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#37992079) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 8:42 PM Author: Amethyst contagious hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2/#49110448) |