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Wachtell lawyer says it’s over for Comey, he’s fucked
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 6:48 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease lol if true
'It's over': George Conway reveals Trump's big mistake that makes Comey charges 'invalid'
https://youtu.be/BGloiyi_QxQ?si=lnei_D-Hweg4_1Ah
Conway pointed out that when Attorney General Pam Bondi appointed Lindsey Halligan to be interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia in late September, she overlooked a key requirement in the federal law that governs U.S. attorney vacancies. Section B of that law reads: "The Attorney General shall not appoint as United States attorney a person to whose appointment by the President to that office the Senate refused to give advice and consent," meaning anyone an attorney general appoints to a vacant U.S. attorney's office has to have already been confirmed by the U.S. Senate.
"She has no more authority than you or I — or my two corgis — to present an indictment to a grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia," Conway explained.
According to Conway, Erik Siebert, who was in the Eastern District of Virginia U.S. attorney's office before Halligan, was also not Senate-confirmed. However, he noted that the vacancies law allows for any interim U.S. attorney to be allowed to keep serving on an interim basis provided that the federal judges of that respective district's court sign off on their appointment after a 120-day period.
Because the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia extended Siebert's appointment in May, he was legally able to prosecute cases on behalf of the DOJ. But Conway reminded viewers that Siebert was forced out of his role after saying there was insufficient evidence to bring cases against Trump's rivals, like Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James. And he pointed out that former interim U.S. Attorney Alina Habba was forced out of her role in the District of New Jersey after a judge ruled her appointment conflicted with the vacancies law. Former interim U.S. Attorney John A. Sarcone III was also rejected by judges in the Northern District of New York after his 120-day window expired.
"The president didn't like him because he didn't want to file this stupid and meritless indictment against Comey, so he resigned," Conway said. "If what had happened to [Halligan] that day had happened to me, I would want to crawl under a rock and never be heard from again. But, you know, good for her."
"[Halligan] has basically no authority. She's not the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia ... We saw her signature on that indictment — no one else signed that indictment — which means that it is invalid," he continued. "Because no other valid attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia's U.S. attorney's office signed the indictment, and because the statute of limitations has run, it's over."
"The statute of limitations expired at midnight last night. So Comey's home free," Conway added. "This case should be done. Sorry!"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/its-over-george-conway-reveals-trumps-big-mistake-that-makes-comey-charges-invalid/ar-AA1NHuk0 |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:40 AM Author: crystalline deranged stag film "Section B of that law reads: "The Attorney General shall not appoint as United States attorney a person to whose appointment by the President to that office the Senate refused to give advice and consent," meaning anyone an attorney general appoints to a vacant U.S. attorney's office has to have already been confirmed by the U.S. Senate." refused is an overt action if they never considered her, they never refused her |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 12:39 PM Author: contagious violent karate elastic band Surely you have ample authority in support of this contention (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322249) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:42 PM Author: comical wrinkle locale This is a provision limiting the President and AG's authority. It's not expanding it to appointment of anyone not already rejected by the senate. It's to prevent the President and his AG from doing an end-around the Senate by appointing someone already rejected by the Senate. Your ridiculous interpretation would de facto remove the Senate's advice and consent authority. The senate would have to pass a resolution blocking everyone on the planet they don't want before the President made his appointment. Obviously that's impossible.
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 3:15 PM Author: crystalline deranged stag film my interpretation isn't ridiculous when referring to an 'interim' appointment which this is. my interpretation is likely wrong if interim appointments require advise and consent approval. i was just reading the language provided. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:56 PM Author: chrome stimulating business firm The author of the article got it wrong. Subsection d applies, because an interim us atty was already appointed and served 120 days.
Subsection d reads: If an appointment expires under subsection (c)(2), the district court for such district may appoint a United States attorney to serve until the vacancy is filled. The order of appointment by the court shall be filed with the clerk of the court.
The President can also appoint an interim under the fed vacancies reform act, but she doesn’t qualify under that bc she (1) wasnt confirmed by the senate for another position, (2) wasn’t the “first assistant” to the us atty before that person left office, or (3) employed in the doj for 90 days making 155k or more (or whatever a gs-15 makes).
The appointment is invalid. |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: crystalline deranged stag film good stuff i believe this was right at the sol to charge comey. will sol run out because it was filed by an invalid attorney or can that be fixed nunc pro tunc or some other way by a valid attorney? |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 9:56 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm i think SCOTUS will have to resolve that - i am sure there's no law on this.
when they decided the NLRB general counsel case, the court ruled that the invalidity of the acting GC's appointment (under the FVRA, not the above statute) was voidable, rather than void ab initio, so that any party not raising it as an affirmative defense waived the argument. many of us thought they'd find simply that the improper appointment invalidated everything the acting GC did, whether or not a party challenged the appointment.
different law, different circumstance. the sol issue didn't apply in the NLRB context, because the sol applies to a charging party filing its charge with the NLRB - length of time it takes to prosecute a case isn't relevant. this is different because the sol ran when there was an (apparently) invalidly appointed us atty.
i'm interested to see what they do with this case. particularly the argument the poaster below says the trump admin is going to make (which i think is stupid - that he can do an end run around the statute by firing the interim us atty) |
Date: October 2nd, 2025 6:57 AM Author: vermilion affirmative action cr also they indicted James Comey the interstate business corporation and not james comey the natural 'man on the land' so the court has no jurisdiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49318964) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:28 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm nah, he seems to be right.
SCOTUS invalidated a bunch of NLRB decisions a few years ago because the complaints were issued by an extreme shitlib Obama appointed as the Acting General Counsel of the NLRB in violation of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act.
wasnt the acting US atty some insurance defense shitlawyer before this? someone appointed to an acting role has to either have been the assistant to the person who just vacated the office or a ranking official of the govt. you can't just install a random person to the job.
i think it's an open question whether this indictment can be "ratified" when there is a properly appointed US atty or acting US atty. conway's argument is that the sol has run. he might be right that comey is off and can never be charged.
the policy implications of this are obviously bad. nobody can be charged with a federal crime in the EDVA if this is correct. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: aquamarine orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319108) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:03 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease “the policy implications of this are obviously bad. nobody can be charged with a federal crime in the EDVA if this is correct.”
Not true. The statute says the federal bench for that district gets to appoint another interim us attorney once the initial 120 days has expired until a successor is confirmed by the senate. the bench did that, then Trump fired the guy for refusing to prosecute Comey. Under the statute the AG gets once shot at an interim appointment. They don’t get to keep stringing along 120 day interim appointments indefinitely by firing the interim us attorney and getting a fresh 120 days. since the initial 120 days is up, under the statute the bench gets to appoint another interim us attorney to serve until a successor is confirmed by the senate. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:33 AM Author: comical wrinkle locale "the policy implications of this are obviously bad. nobody can be charged with a federal crime in the EDVA if this is correct."
Wouldn't another AUSA be able to sign any indictment? I thought that's what usually happens. The problem in the Comey case is that no one was willing to touch this because the office's opinion was that there's no case. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Domesticated hunting ground stage An Assistant U.S. Attorney has to be appointed by a duly appointed U.S. Attorney. They have no power otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322301) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 12:58 PM Author: Domesticated hunting ground stage LOL @ SCOTUS holding the Trump admin to the same standards as Obama. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322298) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:29 AM Author: razzmatazz copper main people step-uncle's house Also I’m pretty sure the flag in the court that heard the charges had frills on it, which makes it an admiralty court, having no jurisdiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319072) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 12:21 PM Author: Claret Volcanic Crater Sex Offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319614) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:30 AM Author: brilliant mental disorder reading party lol george conway has even worse tds than you. stop having the absolute worst takes on every single topic you retarded tranny pedo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319073) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:41 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm conway does have tds, but i think he's right that halligan's appointment isn't valid. it pretty clearly doesn't comport with the FVRA, and SCOTUS has applied that strictly before.
i have no idea whether that invalidates the indictment, so i take no position on that, but he should have appointed someone within the DOJ (who makes at least as much as a GS-15) to the job. this was a mistake. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:45 AM Author: Sepia Unhinged Black Woman How isn’t it valid under the FVRA? Can’t POTUS appoint an interim USA for 120 days? She was just appointed in September. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319097) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:49 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm FVRA places limits on who can be appointed. it basically has to be (1) the "first assistant" to the person who vacated the job or (2) a "senior official" of the govt agency at issue (here, it would have to be someone in the DOJ who makes the equivalent of or more than a GS-15).
i'm open to other arguments for why her appointment is valid, but it appears to be clearly invalid.
edit: apparently there is another statutory provision that applies in addition to the FVRA, and the Atty General can appoint someone for 120 days (presumably anyone), but once the 120 days expires, "the district court" has to appoint a successor acting US atty. The AG apparently appointed some guy to the job, and his 120 days ended. i suppose the issue is whether power of "the district court" to appoint someone else is somehow invalid and that the president should have the right to just appoint anyone. i suppose that can be litigated for the next 10 years. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:55 AM Author: Sepia Unhinged Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319119) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:20 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease his 120 days ended, then the federal bench, per the statute, extended his temporary appointment until a successor is confirmed. But then Trump fired him for refusing to prosecute Comey. They’re basically trying to use ONE WEIRD TRICK to get around the statue and get indefinite 120-day appointments by firing the acting and creating a new vacancy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319203) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:57 PM Author: chrome stimulating business firm That’s retarded as shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49323702) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: supple house macaca No one cares what you think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319107) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:54 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm what i think doesn't matter. i'm just telling you what the law says. this does matter, unless you harbor "trump strongman" theories that he's going to militarize the courts or whatever shit will never happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319115) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:00 AM Author: brilliant mental disorder reading party going after Comey in general is retarded. idc about any of the lawyer bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319131) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm libs started it. i agree that going after political enemies is obviously a bad idea, but libs tried this multiple times with trump, so fuck it. what did they expect.
however, the indictment against comey does appear to have a serious problem. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:15 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease (guy who chanted “Lock Her Up!” at 2016 campaign event) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319190) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:17 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm nope. not a politics fag. i watch all this stuff with a bit of amusement but don't care much either way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319196) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:24 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease but you agree that was something Trump and the crowd chanted in 2016, correct?
“libs started it” |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:26 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm that is a retarded point. people chant all kinds of nonsense.
can you let me know which of his political enemies trump went after during his first term? when exactly was hillary charged with something? or was that just something he chanted to rile his base up ahead of the election?
dems immediately started trying to impeach him. then when biden was in office he's all of a sudden getting charged with nonsense "crimes" (just like the one comey was charged with). all of it fell flat, and now they are getting all of this shit back. it's not right, but they went over the top with it so whatever. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:43 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease retard shtick? He tried to go after all of them but Sessions and Barr refused to file fake charges, which is why they fell out of favor with him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319285) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:14 PM Author: Deep awkward psychic school So the admin went after officially none? Thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322350) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:17 PM Author: chrome stimulating business firm this. all trump did was rant like a retard at sessions, who resigned rather than file bs charges. and his successor.... also didn't go after trump's political enemies. trump was having a boomer tantrum and dropped it.
can't say as much for the libs. didn't he get charged with like 50 felonies? not to mention all the impeachment nonsense. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:56 PM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease he was convicted of 34 of the felonies so there was clearly substance to them. the others were dropped based on ticky tack procedural nonsense, not because he didn’t do the crime, and he wouldn’t been convicted of those too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49323853) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:59 AM Author: Effete really tough guy immigrant "not a politics fag but libs started it and I'm ignoring evidence to the contrary"
lol what a fucking hack |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:04 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm (maf pussy hat wearer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321881) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 3:16 PM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322758) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:32 AM Author: big-titted passionate clown Nothing has had me question the prestige of Wachtell more than George Conway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319077) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:53 AM Author: supple house macaca Everyone realizes this ends with 90% of the “legal profession” ceasing to exist forever, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319112) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 8:57 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm lmao, i made my poast above before i even saw this.
let me guess, you're an HVAC repairman living in are country and you actually think trump is going to be installed dictator for life. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:08 AM Author: supple house macaca Existential dread is a stinky cologne, Louis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319161) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:01 AM Author: Arousing Alcoholic International Law Enforcement Agency Indirect Expression So a non-lawyer is going to prosecute James Coney? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319135) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm rumor has it, trump is actually going to start jailing federal judges soon. he already lined up all the military generals on his side earlier this week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319160) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:16 AM Author: Arousing Alcoholic International Law Enforcement Agency Indirect Expression Cons is this true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319194) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 12:24 PM Author: Bistre Half-breed Something pretty close to it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319620) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Arousing Alcoholic International Law Enforcement Agency Indirect Expression Anyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322342) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:14 PM Author: Deep awkward psychic school Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322351) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: Trip clear heaven pistol This sounds like ticky tack nonsense that has nothing to do with what he did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319155) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:09 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm cr, if it's one thing that federal judges and SCOTUS have no time for, it's ticky tack nonsense arguments about the meaning of federal statutes and the constitution.
the courts tend to be concerned with what "feels right."
i once knew a guy who was subject to an illegal search and charged with coke possession and caught federal charges. his fancy jew lawyer made an argument about the constitution and the prosecutor said "but your honor. he did it, he had the drugs on him."
the federal judge, i shit you not, lowered his glasses and said to my friend, "son, i don't care much for what this "amendment to the constitution" says....did you actually do it?"
my friend isn't one to lie, so he said "i sure did, your honor. mr. horowitz here said he found a loophole."
then the judge said "well, unlucky fer you, son, mr. horowitz isn't in charge here. i am"
and he sentenced my friend to 3 years. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:00 AM Author: Effete really tough guy immigrant This is pure fantasy made up schlock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321871) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:06 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm i obviously made it up to illustrate a point, the point being that calling legal arguments like the one in the OP "ticky tack nonsense" is stupid, because it appears that conway is right about halligan's appointment being invalid. who cares if "comey did it," he might get off for that reason alone.
it's hard to believe someone read what i wrote above and took from it that i was trying to pass that off as a thing that happened. jfc. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:07 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease cr. and Trump’s documents case was dismissed on the same grounds (prosecutor appointment was unconstitutional) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321891) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:15 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm link to that? was it an FVRA issue? i am genuinely interested in this, because i'm a labor lawyer and back in 2014 or so, we all started raising the FVRA as a defense in unfair labor practice cases because obama's acting GC's appointment violated the FVRA.
SCOTUS agreed and invalidated a shitload of cases. although the NLRB later "ratified" almost all of them, so the effect wasn't as severe as people had hoped. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:38 AM Author: comical wrinkle locale It wasn't FVRA. It was actually Scalia's old argument that the independent special prosecutor office had to be filled by Congress so Garland's appointment of special counsel was void. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321944) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:52 AM Author: chrome stimulating business firm oh yeah, i remember that.
hey, that's just ticky-tacky nonsense. you need to just roll your sleeves up and get to the hard work of figuring out what the "right" thing to do is. did comey do it? then procedure be damned! |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:33 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease Yeah but a judge in SDNY used the Aileen Cannon ruling as the basis to dismiss two criminal cases filed by Ailina Habba
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756662&mc=19&forum_id=2
The same logic should apply to Comey’s case (as if the judge wasn’t already looking for a basis to dismiss the charges, but this fuck up gives him an easy out) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 12:19 PM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease Trump’s stolen classified documents case was dismissed on the same grounds. link to you calling that ruling “ticky tack nonsense”? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49319605) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:16 AM Author: Trip clear heaven pistol No it wasn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321912) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 10:39 AM Author: comical wrinkle locale yes, it was actually even more ticky-tacky. Different legal issue but similar problem (whether prosecutor had authority to act on behalf of DOJ). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49321947) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:41 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease yes, it was
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&mc=47&forum_id=2#49322065 |
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Date: October 2nd, 2025 9:41 AM Author: primrose hairraiser state mad cow disease also, reminder cons:
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780841&mc=39&forum_id=2 |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:22 PM Author: Indecent degenerate station "Lindsey is a tough, smart, and loyal attorney, who has worked with me for a long time, including in the winning fight against the Weaponization of our Justice System by Crooked Joe Biden. She is a graduate of World Famous Regis University (equal or better than Harvard!) and the University of Miami Law School!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782231&forum_id=2/#49322907) |
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