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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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Cruel-hearted Piazza
  07/18/25
God willing
deranged motley nursing home
  07/18/25
Inshallah
Cruel-hearted Piazza
  07/18/25
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high-end opaque fanboi
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Cruel-hearted Piazza
  07/18/25
nickel endimed
buck-toothed bateful dragon state
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Bright prole field
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
buff disrespectful forum juggernaut
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
Bull Headed Codepig
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
buff disrespectful forum juggernaut
  07/18/25
lol 180
disturbing federal property
  07/18/25
180
Bull Headed Codepig
  07/18/25
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frisky voyeur
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
swashbuckling honey-headed range
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
maroon low-t legal warrant
  07/18/25
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Cruel-hearted Piazza
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
Onyx Irate Area Gunner
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
Lascivious Resort
  07/18/25
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Cruel-hearted Piazza
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Indecent striped hyena locale
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
self-centered confused gas station ape
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
self-centered confused gas station ape
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
self-centered confused gas station ape
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
Silver stage puppy
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Spruce public bath
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
khaki mewling locus background story
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Yellow plaza factory reset button
  07/18/25
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vibrant hilarious toilet seat
  07/19/25
I wish.
supple purple headpube
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
Topaz bat-shit-crazy preventive strike
  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111109)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: deranged motley nursing home

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted Piazza

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: high-end opaque fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49112809)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113496)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: buck-toothed bateful dragon state

nickel endimed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111131)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Bright prole field

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: buff disrespectful forum juggernaut

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Bull Headed Codepig

What is the bulk of your business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111384)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: buff disrespectful forum juggernaut

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: disturbing federal property

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111430)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Bull Headed Codepig

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: frisky voyeur



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: swashbuckling honey-headed range

prole squabbles, llp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111464)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: maroon low-t legal warrant

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113498)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Onyx Irate Area Gunner

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Lascivious Resort

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113499)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Indecent striped hyena locale

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: self-centered confused gas station ape

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: self-centered confused gas station ape

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: self-centered confused gas station ape

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Silver stage puppy

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Spruce public bath

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: khaki mewling locus background story

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Yellow plaza factory reset button

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: vibrant hilarious toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113713)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: supple purple headpube

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: Topaz bat-shit-crazy preventive strike

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111741)