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Hypo: birthright citizenship abolished. How would you prove US citizenship?

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Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
Only service guarantees citizenship
topaz trailer park
  07/29/22
I'm doing my part.
Aphrodisiac center selfie
  07/29/22
the only good bug is a dead bug!
odious address indirect expression
  07/29/22
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Mint Hairraiser Weed Whacker Stag Film
  07/29/22
Speaking and writing English competently. 90% of Southerners...
Diverse hospital
  07/29/22
not so fast on the “writing” there, bud.
wine gaping bbw
  07/29/22
gross
Big-titted gaped temple immigrant
  07/29/22
Most countries do not have birthright citizenship based on l...
purple love of her life
  07/29/22
I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking how I would ...
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
Suppose the govt knocks on your door 1 millisecond after the...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I would show the land patents my ancestor received for land ...
unhinged fragrant doctorate boistinker
  07/29/22
Received. Thank you!
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
No white person can claim “ancestors” in the Ame...
Contagious rough-skinned associate
  07/29/22
My ancestors got here before this “country” exis...
unhinged fragrant doctorate boistinker
  07/29/22
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lavender provocative school cafeteria
  07/30/22
Same
beta jewess
  07/30/22
what a bitter little Asian you are
Mint Hairraiser Weed Whacker Stag Film
  07/29/22
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Big hairless den
  07/31/22
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Razzmatazz Pea-brained Genital Piercing
  07/29/22
go away rudolph
violent scourge upon the earth
  07/31/22
I'd need to know what the ruling was. It would be up to Cong...
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
Thanks. We're gonna mark you "refused to respond to our...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
OK but that's not accurate.
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
How is it inaccurate? Are you going to tell me it was an imp...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I mean yeah, it's pretty unusual to knock on doors when ther...
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
Well yeah but it's also pretty unusual for the govt to fuck ...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
When I've refused to comply, I'd think. I can't comply with ...
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
Gotcha. Well look here's the thing. I could have marked you ...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
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Idiotic public bath
  07/29/22
I cheerfully object.
demanding kitty
  07/29/22
In this hypothetical we would almost certainly be using citi...
Naked market
  07/29/22
U still gotta convince us you didn't just steal somebody's f...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
Seriously? It's too bad they don't list parents on birth cer...
Titillating Domesticated Site Knife
  07/30/22
How would your both certificate reveal anything about your g...
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
JFC. My parents had birth certificates, too, you know? As di...
Titillating Domesticated Site Knife
  07/31/22
So what's the new law that I'm trying to meet?
Aquamarine Vivacious Famous Landscape Painting
  07/29/22
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
regular mad max thunderdome cagefights to the death w/ selec...
Flirting cerise mad cow disease
  07/29/22
Master : These our witness, Aunty. Us suffer bad. Want justi...
odious address indirect expression
  07/29/22
180 Qween Kamala will play as Aunty Entity
Flirting cerise mad cow disease
  07/29/22
If you’ve paid more than a million in lifetime federal...
lascivious garrison volcanic crater
  07/29/22
Received, thanl
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
im a jones act citizen and my family has been since 1917. l...
jade theater
  07/29/22
We do need to have a bort discussion on whether the azn/dot ...
impertinent beady-eyed queen of the night library
  07/29/22
Shut up fool. Jews, Indians, and Asians now own the country....
vigorous lilac sandwich
  07/30/22
"but i paith taxeth!" (shoots traitor in eyeball)
Mewling Cracking Telephone People Who Are Hurt
  07/29/22
Thank you. You should receive your new credentials in 4-6 mo...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
tyvm. in order to expedite my claim would proof of relative...
jade theater
  07/29/22
It never hurts to provide us with information that can assis...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
This is what 180 India did to Musbro shit infilitrators in t...
Pink violent french chef
  07/29/22
White English speaking persons of good character
Burgundy coffee pot
  07/29/22
Height
Free-loading outnumbered psychic prole
  07/29/22
I would show them my dog and my AR. They see those two thing...
glittery really tough guy
  07/29/22
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Idiotic public bath
  07/29/22
"Heh, how about we save some time here? We'll show you ...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I'd still like a response from some tough-as-nails AR-15 own...
Flickering Mood
  07/15/25
"I'm ready to die for Israel."
crawly adventurous property
  07/29/22
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Free-loading outnumbered psychic prole
  07/29/22
i will share deeds that show i own land and people
galvanic twinkling shrine
  07/29/22
And how do you pronounce your name Mr...Zhang?
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
quiet slave. get back in your cage or you'll get the whip
galvanic twinkling shrine
  07/29/22
I have dog tags of my great grandfather (same last name), th...
Idiotic public bath
  07/29/22
Thanl
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I don't know what you're asking.
Aquamarine Vivacious Famous Landscape Painting
  07/29/22
"It's a pretty open ended question, but we decided to l...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
Ancestor fought (for the US or the Confederacy) in one of th...
Cyan narrow-minded gas station
  07/29/22
I'd show them my high school football game tape
cerebral flatulent field
  07/29/22
White landowning male
Umber corner
  07/29/22
Define "land."
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
i would be unable to establish citizenship. i had erroneous...
Arousing up-to-no-good circlehead
  07/29/22
Thank you. I can't make any promises but I'll recommend that...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
ITT: what the third world looks, sounds, and feels like
Pearly candlestick maker spot
  07/29/22
Grandfather obtained citizenship though military service.
Fear-inspiring brethren
  07/29/22
Are you willing to do the same?
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I can trace ancestry back to a Revolutionary War officer; I ...
beta jewess
  07/29/22
It's actually kinda problematic that that's the most recent ...
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
Oh, both of my grandfathers and one grandmother were in WWII...
beta jewess
  07/30/22
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Razzmatazz Pea-brained Genital Piercing
  07/29/22
(polish guy)
Flickering Mood
  07/29/22
I would show them my Consular Report of Birth Abroad. That s...
Titillating Domesticated Site Knife
  07/30/22
Pwnage
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
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lavender provocative school cafeteria
  07/30/22
Preliminary results are back. Responses suggest people claim...
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
Dunno about this, founders secured rights for “us and ...
beta jewess
  07/30/22
Birthright citizenship created a free rider problem though. ...
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
get the fuck out of here, giuseppe o'shea
Trip resort coldplay fan
  07/30/22
I agree, “birthright citizenship” creates a free...
beta jewess
  07/30/22
The framers made it clear that Congress has the authority to...
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
Correct, *naturalization*. But there is no situation in whic...
beta jewess
  07/30/22
If birthright citizenship is abolished and you want to claim...
Flickering Mood
  07/30/22
Sure, you’d have to prove descent from either 1) famil...
beta jewess
  07/31/22
Sir this is not the time to invoke penumbras.
Flickering Mood
  07/31/22
What about “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselv...
beta jewess
  07/31/22
(guy who has never heard of the 14th Amendment) Birthrigh...
Titillating Domesticated Site Knife
  07/31/22
He’s clearly contemplating the repeal of the 14th Amen...
beta jewess
  07/31/22
I'm imagining how the conversations will go before we throw ...
Flickering Mood
  07/15/25
My first American ancestor arrived here in the 1650s; the la...
lavender provocative school cafeteria
  07/30/22
If you don't have DAR/SAR papers you have to go back
Trip resort coldplay fan
  07/30/22
official passport
Blue Kink-friendly Heaven Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/30/22
show them my lgbtqia and blm tattoos
racy garnet set
  07/30/22
if you have to ask, you have to go back
razzle house background story
  07/31/22
OP here
Flickering Mood
  07/15/25
obviously it would be if the parents are citizens you retard...
Mildly autistic adulterous nowag degenerate
  07/15/25
How would you prove your parents were citizens?
Flickering Mood
  07/15/25
their SSN?
Mildly autistic adulterous nowag degenerate
  07/15/25
Skin color
purple love of her life
  07/15/25
If you're white, we'll presume you're from South Africa on a...
Flickering Mood
  07/15/25
I would be totally fucked. I would show up in an Adidas tra...
frozen godawful theater stage boiling water
  07/15/25
If birthright citizenship is retroactively abolished, then I...
stimulating death wish
  07/15/25


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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:01 PM
Author: Flickering Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934518)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:02 PM
Author: topaz trailer park

Only service guarantees citizenship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934523)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:05 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac center selfie

I'm doing my part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934540)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:15 PM
Author: odious address indirect expression

the only good bug is a dead bug!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934597)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 8:39 PM
Author: Mint Hairraiser Weed Whacker Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936173)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:04 PM
Author: Diverse hospital

Speaking and writing English competently. 90% of Southerners and most PoC are immediately disenfranchised, ensuring coastal liberal hegemony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934537)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 9:53 PM
Author: wine gaping bbw

not so fast on the “writing” there, bud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936430)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:08 PM
Author: Big-titted gaped temple immigrant

gross

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934557)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:09 PM
Author: purple love of her life

Most countries do not have birthright citizenship based on location of birth. Usually, it’s based on ancestry. You have to prove that one or both parents were citizens. Makes a lot more sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934560)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:11 PM
Author: demanding kitty

I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking how I would go about proving my citizenship, or what the inclusion criteria for citizenship should be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934574)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:14 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Suppose the govt knocks on your door 1 millisecond after the ruling is issued and says "error: passport etc. erroneously issued on the basis of flawed and frankly incoherent constitutional analysis, please submit alternative verification of citizenship."

Your response?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934589)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:17 PM
Author: unhinged fragrant doctorate boistinker

I would show the land patents my ancestor received for land that I now own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934610)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:18 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Received. Thank you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934614)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:49 PM
Author: Contagious rough-skinned associate

No white person can claim “ancestors” in the Americas. Its too string a word for third generation Italian immigrant or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935386)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 6:59 PM
Author: unhinged fragrant doctorate boistinker

My ancestors got here before this “country” existed. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935685)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 9:27 AM
Author: lavender provocative school cafeteria



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Date: July 30th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: beta jewess

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44938711)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 8:41 PM
Author: Mint Hairraiser Weed Whacker Stag Film

what a bitter little Asian you are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936178)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 8:47 AM
Author: Big hairless den



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Pea-brained Genital Piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936480)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: violent scourge upon the earth

go away rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44942166)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:19 PM
Author: demanding kitty

I'd need to know what the ruling was. It would be up to Congress to articulate a standard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934623)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:21 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Thanks. We're gonna mark you "refused to respond to our request." Bye.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934632)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:21 PM
Author: demanding kitty

OK but that's not accurate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934637)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:23 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

How is it inaccurate? Are you going to tell me it was an improperly formed request? That he's being denied due process because of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934646)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:35 PM
Author: demanding kitty

I mean yeah, it's pretty unusual to knock on doors when there is no articulated law to apply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934693)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:38 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Well yeah but it's also pretty unusual for the govt to fuck up this bad. But we're still here and you still haven't shown us anything except your legal opinion. At what point can we say you refused to comply with our request?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934702)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:52 PM
Author: demanding kitty

When I've refused to comply, I'd think. I can't comply with an impossible request, though, so that's not a refusal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934773)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:56 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Gotcha. Well look here's the thing. I could have marked you "failed" to comply, but you were argumentative and you remained that way for some time. So I'll just mark you down as "combative." Thank you and good day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934790)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:06 PM
Author: Idiotic public bath



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Date: July 29th, 2022 6:25 PM
Author: demanding kitty

I cheerfully object.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935504)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:28 PM
Author: Naked market

In this hypothetical we would almost certainly be using citizenship by descent or naturalization. Lots of other big countries do this and don't grant citizenship just by being born within their territory (unless they would have no other citizenship). I can easily show the chain of my greatgrandparents being naturalized, then that I'm descended from them. What's more, one parent would be sufficient and I can do it for both. Most people could and this is fairly well archived. Was this supposed to be hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934664)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:30 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

U still gotta convince us you didn't just steal somebody's family album

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934677)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 12:36 AM
Author: Titillating Domesticated Site Knife

Seriously? It's too bad they don't list parents on birth certificates. It's also too bad that the Social Security administration doesn't keep track of the Social Security number of your parents. How dumb is this hypo? It's trivial to prove who your parents are unless you are some kind of prole without any documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937201)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 3:47 AM
Author: Flickering Mood

How would your both certificate reveal anything about your great grandparents? For that matter how did their actions reflect your worthiness of US citizenship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937597)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 4:56 PM
Author: Titillating Domesticated Site Knife

JFC. My parents had birth certificates, too, you know? As did my grandparents and so on. In my case, if we are assuming citizenship by descent, I know I had at least one great grandparent that naturalized. My parents and grandparents were all born in the same small town, so I could get all the birth certificates in one trip to that town. All I need to track down is proof of naturalization for at least one great grandparent and then I can use the birth certificates to document that I am descended from a naturalized citizen. It would be kind of a pain in the ass, but it wouldn't be that hard to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44943627)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:10 PM
Author: Aquamarine Vivacious Famous Landscape Painting

So what's the new law that I'm trying to meet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935190)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:49 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935388)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:19 PM
Author: Flirting cerise mad cow disease

regular mad max thunderdome cagefights to the death w/ select weapons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934620)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:29 PM
Author: odious address indirect expression

Master : These our witness, Aunty. Us suffer bad. Want justice. We want Thunderdome!

Aunty Entity : You know the law: Two men enter, one man leaves.

Master : This Blaster! Twenty men enter, only him leave!

Aunty Entity : Then it's your choice. Thunderdome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934669)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:58 PM
Author: Flirting cerise mad cow disease

180

Qween Kamala will play as Aunty Entity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934801)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:33 PM
Author: lascivious garrison volcanic crater

If you’ve paid more than a million in lifetime federal taxes you are a citizen who gets to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934687)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:33 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Received, thanl

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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:36 PM
Author: jade theater

im a jones act citizen and my family has been since 1917. longer than most unwashed ww2 immigrant faggots on this bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934696)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:39 PM
Author: impertinent beady-eyed queen of the night library

We do need to have a bort discussion on whether the azn/dot injun poasters should have their citizenship recognized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934705)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 5:38 AM
Author: vigorous lilac sandwich

Shut up fool. Jews, Indians, and Asians now own the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937669)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:40 PM
Author: Mewling Cracking Telephone People Who Are Hurt

"but i paith taxeth!" (shoots traitor in eyeball)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934709)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:43 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Thank you. You should receive your new credentials in 4-6 months once we verify some things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934717)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:52 PM
Author: jade theater

tyvm. in order to expedite my claim would proof of relatives being 65th infantry regiment veterans (borinqueneers) in both ww2 and korea help the application at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934770)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 4:01 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

It never hurts to provide us with information that can assist us in expediting the process for yourself or any other applicants you know of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934827)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:39 PM
Author: Pink violent french chef

This is what 180 India did to Musbro shit infilitrators in the Northeast, just passed a law and then a ton were put on lists and they had to come in and prove their entitlement to citizenship. Of course many did not have proof so they got sent to concentration camps. These were all Musbro Bangladeshi shit refugees who infilitrated Mother Bharat, and India told them to furk off. Birdshits are not as alpha as Pradeep, they dont have the T levels or gorgeous cock power. So this will never happen in shithole USA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934706)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:44 PM
Author: Burgundy coffee pot

White English speaking persons of good character

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934721)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:52 PM
Author: Free-loading outnumbered psychic prole

Height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934771)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 3:56 PM
Author: glittery really tough guy

I would show them my dog and my AR. They see those two things, they'll know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934786)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: Idiotic public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935184)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:22 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

"Heh, how about we save some time here? We'll show you our guns and you tell us which ones you recognize."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935252)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

I'd still like a response from some tough-as-nails AR-15 owners with dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103396)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: crawly adventurous property

"I'm ready to die for Israel."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934928)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:40 PM
Author: Free-loading outnumbered psychic prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935353)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 4:20 PM
Author: galvanic twinkling shrine

i will share deeds that show i own land and people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934935)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

And how do you pronounce your name Mr...Zhang?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934949)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 4:26 PM
Author: galvanic twinkling shrine

quiet slave. get back in your cage or you'll get the whip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44934953)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: Idiotic public bath

I have dog tags of my great grandfather (same last name), the flag my grandmother was given when he died, and photographic evidence of him serving in WW2 for America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935182)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 9:52 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Thanl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936421)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:09 PM
Author: Aquamarine Vivacious Famous Landscape Painting

I don't know what you're asking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935188)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 5:45 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

"It's a pretty open ended question, but we decided to leave it that way for a reason. We've never had to do this before and we're learning as we go, so we wanted to be fair and give you the opportunity to tell us what YOU think constitutes evidence of your US citizenship."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935368)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 6:25 PM
Author: Cyan narrow-minded gas station

Ancestor fought (for the US or the Confederacy) in one of the Revolution, 1812, Civil War, WWI, or WWII.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935502)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 7:14 PM
Author: cerebral flatulent field

I'd show them my high school football game tape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935747)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 7:30 PM
Author: Umber corner

White landowning male

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935803)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:03 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Define "land."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936465)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 7:34 PM
Author: Arousing up-to-no-good circlehead

i would be unable to establish citizenship. i had erroneously believed myself to be a citizen based on being born in the country, and i have not otherwise been naturalized. my parents and grandparents likewise erroneously believed that they were citizens based on being born in the country, but were not otherwise naturalized. perhaps somewhere in my family tree someone was actually naturalized as a citizen, but i cannot demonstrate it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935833)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:05 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Thank you. I can't make any promises but I'll recommend that your sincerity and candor be weighed in your favor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936473)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 7:45 PM
Author: Pearly candlestick maker spot

ITT: what the third world looks, sounds, and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935891)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 7:47 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring brethren

Grandfather obtained citizenship though military service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44935900)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:06 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Are you willing to do the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936475)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 9:10 PM
Author: beta jewess

I can trace ancestry back to a Revolutionary War officer; I assume that should be good enough/early enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936275)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:07 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

It's actually kinda problematic that that's the most recent war you can invoke in your favor here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936479)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 12:53 PM
Author: beta jewess

Oh, both of my grandfathers and one grandmother were in WWII also, of course, and I have all their records, medals, photos in service, etc.

I thought longevity in-country was the goal here as basically the opposite of simply happening to have been born here, and “ancestors present at the founding” seems reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44938690)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Pea-brained Genital Piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936476)



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Date: July 29th, 2022 10:07 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

(polish guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44936481)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 12:39 AM
Author: Titillating Domesticated Site Knife

I would show them my Consular Report of Birth Abroad. That shows that the U.S. government recognized me as a citizen at birth even though I clearly did not obtain citizenship by being born on U.S. soil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937205)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 3:43 AM
Author: Flickering Mood

Pwnage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937594)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 6:08 AM
Author: lavender provocative school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937693)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 3:50 AM
Author: Flickering Mood

Preliminary results are back. Responses suggest people claiming their ancestors fought wars to gain citizenship should do the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937600)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: beta jewess

Dunno about this, founders secured rights for “us and our posterity” (i.e. *their* specific descendants—not the descendants of illegal Mexicans or whatever). Pretty sure many would not have fought if they didn’t think they were building something for their kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44938697)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

Birthright citizenship created a free rider problem though. Our task is to recover what's left of the society the framers left us with. We also have to take into consideration the unique contributions of Irish as Italian immigrants, who are working hard within the judiciary to assist us in this endeavor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44940997)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:36 PM
Author: Trip resort coldplay fan

get the fuck out of here, giuseppe o'shea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941010)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: beta jewess

I agree, “birthright citizenship” creates a free-rider problem, but what you appear to be against is not in fact “birthright” citizenship, it’s citizenship “jus sanguinis”, which is absolutely what the Founders intended and is the classical, most fundamental form of citizenship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941020)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:41 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

The framers made it clear that Congress has the authority to regulate naturalization. That's what we're really talking about here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941035)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:52 PM
Author: beta jewess

Correct, *naturalization*. But there is no situation in which someone born on American soil to parents who are citizens is not a citizen, then, or now. There’s no naturalization happening there, because naturalization is the process by which a non-citizen gains citizenship.

I suppose you could say that Congress could in theory decide that some class of previously-naturalized immigrants were in fact illicitly naturalized and it doesn’t count, hence their descendants were never citizens in the first place. Maybe! But if you can demonstrate descent from citizens who were clearly in the country and citizens at the time of the Revolution (maybe even as late as the adoption of the Constitution) that is essentially untouchable evidence of citizenship “jus sanguinis”—no naturalization in that process at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941077)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:57 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

If birthright citizenship is abolished and you want to claim ancestral ties you need to prove them somehow. Otherwise, if all you have is a birth certificate, we really are talking about naturalization. Congress could grandfather in all current citizens instead of making people apply, but why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941092)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 8:39 AM
Author: beta jewess

Sure, you’d have to prove descent from either 1) family members who were unquestionably citizens by non-birthright criteria in the past (good); or 2) family members who were citizens at the time of the Founding (even better).

But this is literally THE key feature of citizenship at the time of the founding. It passed to your kids and their kids (NOT necessarily to the kids of other randos happening to be physically present in the country at some later date, of course. But YOURS? Yes. That’s why you founded the country.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941973)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 10:16 AM
Author: Flickering Mood

Sir this is not the time to invoke penumbras.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44942143)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 4:31 PM
Author: beta jewess

What about “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” is a penumbra to you? This is perhaps the fundamental feature of the United States.

All that other stuff—the details of naturalizing aliens, awarding citizenship via service programs for immigrants, birthright anchor babies for illegal Mexicans, whatever—is optional add-ons. You can mess with that stuff all you like.

Citizenship jus sanguinis, on the other hand, is the founding raison d'être of the nation. It is fundamental and without it the country does not exist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44943518)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 5:02 PM
Author: Titillating Domesticated Site Knife

(guy who has never heard of the 14th Amendment)

Birthright citizenship is in the Constitution. Amendments are just as much part of the Constitution as the original text.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44943649)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 8:31 PM
Author: beta jewess

He’s clearly contemplating the repeal of the 14th Amendment here, which is fine I guess (and there’s always been some question of exactly who the birthright provision applies to, i.e. does it really cover illegals?), but the question is whether he is so fundamentally seeking to overturn the premise of the American nation as to contradict (or imagine away) the **rest** of the Constitution, including the bits the Framers themselves laid out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44944483)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

I'm imagining how the conversations will go before we throw cons in mass graves. Sometimes it's fun to interrogate people before you kill them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103403)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 6:07 AM
Author: lavender provocative school cafeteria

My first American ancestor arrived here in the 1650s; the last immigrant in my family line was in 1670.

Numerous documents and pictures of my ancestors in various wars, between the Revolutionary War and WW2.

I am current mil.

One or all of those should about cover it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937690)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 6:09 AM
Author: Trip resort coldplay fan

If you don't have DAR/SAR papers you have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44937695)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 9:47 AM
Author: Blue Kink-friendly Heaven Mad-dog Skullcap

official passport

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44938078)



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Date: July 30th, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: racy garnet set

show them my lgbtqia and blm tattoos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941004)



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Date: July 31st, 2022 8:56 AM
Author: razzle house background story

if you have to ask, you have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#44941993)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

OP here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103395)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Mildly autistic adulterous nowag degenerate

obviously it would be if the parents are citizens you retarded schizo fag (i.e. - kids of illegals, chink H1Bs, anchor babies, and other bullshit would be dingfaged).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103404)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

How would you prove your parents were citizens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103407)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Mildly autistic adulterous nowag degenerate

their SSN?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103414)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: purple love of her life

Skin color

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103406)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: Flickering Mood

If you're white, we'll presume you're from South Africa on a refugee visa until you prove otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103409)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: frozen godawful theater stage boiling water

I would be totally fucked. I would show up in an Adidas tracksuit and with a thick Russian accent. They would say "name this baseball player" and I'd shrug and they would go "that's fucking Mickey Mantle. Ok, let's try an easier one." I would shrug again and he would say "you really don't know what Babe Ruth looks like? Alright, you're going to Alligator Alcatraz"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103408)



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Date: July 15th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: stimulating death wish

If birthright citizenship is retroactively abolished, then I would not be able to prove citizenship. I was never naturalized, believing myself to be a natural born citizen. All of my ancestors that I ever met were in the same category. As for my ancestors who were not born in this country, I have no way of finding out whether they were naturalized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5163557&forum_id=2],#49103412)