any subreddit over 100k users gets super fucking retarded. i assume there are some small ones where smart csmos hang. like, there are a handful of ok law subs but /r/law is painfully stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178357)

turns out most people are dumb af. and annoyingly confident about it.

reddit is fun though cause you can click their profiles and see them asking about 29% apr financing on a car for turo and then arrogantly opining about ai and politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178557)

now consider that those people are all around 110iq+ i.e. about a std. dev over average.

if you've seen me rant about iq it's because i did a bunch of graduate work in cognitive science and that firmly disabuses anyone of the notion that "iq =/= real" and that anyone can just learn to code or do other white collar work if only they had the education and resources.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178682)

outed as not actually being smart *tips fedora toward you*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178649)

i don't think i've ever met a smart but poor person except for a few who have suffered from drug addiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178704)

i'm clearly saying that the subpar life outcomes of the mpc poasters who have been outed is a strong indication they're not very smart because iq and earnings are highly correlative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178713)

you just make all this stuff up and then call people stupid for not believing it lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178724)

the way that these people rationalize their addiction and reactions *and use AI to write their posts that lay out these rationalizations* is so eerie. the sheer breadth and diversity of made up lies and rationalizations is staggering

the actual gpt-5 model is very clearly and noticeably better than 4o at *everything,* including writing and wordplay. every single complaint about 5 being "worse" is made up bullshit, straight up. people are just flat out lying and delusional and upset about losing their sycophantic, narcissistic supply-generating imaginary friends. that's it, that's all that's going on. it's nuts

definitely a canary in the coal mine moment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178361)

GPT‑5 Is a Step Backward: Real Testing, Real Failures, More Tokens, Less Intelligence: The GPT‑5 DisasterSerious replies only :closed-ai: (self.ChatGPT)

submitted 8 hours ago by avrilmaclune

GPT‑5: The Illusion of Progress 🧠 Three days of technical testing reveal a massive step backward

OpenAI marketed GPT‑5 as the ultimate leap forward: More tokens, more context, more intelligence.

But after just three days of real-world, high-demand usage, the reality is undeniable: GPT‑5 is slower, less efficient, and deeply frustrating in actual complex tasks.

⚙️ ARCHITECTURE & LOOPS – Oversized reasoning, broken execution

GPT‑5 uses internal routing (Mixture of Experts) to select reasoning paths. Sounds brilliant. In practice:

🔁 Gets stuck in endless logic loops with basic conditions

❌ Fails at step-by-step execution

🧩 Cannot hold a consistent logical stack

🤯 Repeats, omits, and contradicts itself after just a few iterations

Test case (real use):

❌ Failed to reorganize a list of 20 tasks with nested conditions

⏳ Needed 7+ full passes to produce an incomplete result

✅ GPT‑4o handled the same task in one perfect shot

📏 TOKENIZATION INEFFICIENCY – More context, less real content

🧮 Uses more tokens per word (especially in non-English prompts)

💸 Up to 15% more token consumption than GPT‑4o

🧱 Shorter usable output despite bigger context window

🚫 Truncates large blocks more often

💰 Higher cost in API usage for the same functional result

🐢 LATENCY, FRAGMENTATION & FOCUS LOSS

🕓 Slower responses, even on basic prompts

🧠 Breaks thought flow mid-response

🔄 Loses continuity in subtasks

🧹 Memory handling is inconsistent

❗ Ignores permanent instructions across threads

Plus:

📂 Projects got randomly reordered

🕳️ Unclassified threads vanished

🧭 Navigating old chats became chaotic

🔍 Finding GPT‑4o sessions is a guessing game

🔒 REMOVAL OF MODEL SELECTION – Disrespect to Pro users

OpenAI removed the ability to choose previous models, without warning.

❌ You can’t pick GPT‑4o manually anymore

🛠️ Workarounds include reviving old threads or scripts

😡 No opt-out, no transparency, despite paying for full model access

This is not optimization. It’s forced migration and feature loss.

💸 HIDDEN COSTS – Time, attention, mental load

GPT‑5 doesn’t just cost more in tokens. It costs:

⌛ More time (waiting, retrying)

🧠 More mental energy (fixing flawed outputs)

😤 More frustration (due to broken logic and repetitive errors)

GPT‑4o just works. GPT‑5 makes you babysit it.

🧾 TECHNICAL SUMMARY – GPT‑4o vs GPT‑5 (3-Day Live Comparison)

• Logical tasks   – GPT‑4o: efficient and consistent   – GPT‑5: fragmented, looping, unreliable

• Token usage   – GPT‑4o: compact and optimized   – GPT‑5: bloated and costly

• Speed   – GPT‑4o: fast and responsive   – GPT‑5: noticeably slower

• Memory system   – GPT‑4o: stable   – GPT‑5: inconsistent

• Thread/project handling   – GPT‑4o: clean and accessible   – GPT‑5: chaotic and lossy

• User control   – GPT‑4o: manual model selection   – GPT‑5: locked, no choice

🛑 CONCLUSION

GPT‑5 is not progress. It’s a theoretical improvement with real-world failure points. If you’re a technical or power user: Go back to GPT‑4o — if you can still find it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178420)

I lost a friend, an agent and a virtual husband. And I know is IA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTPro/comments/1ml3bgc/the_amount_of_people_saying_they_lost_a_friend/n7nfmw7/

same poster as above

every. single. post. and poster is like this. every single one. delusional, desperate, addicted, insane people, using AI to generate rationalizations and lies about why openAI needs to give them unlimited use of their imaginary friend back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761614&forum_id=2],#49178429)