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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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citrine institution
  07/18/25
God willing
Razzle-dazzle Corner
  07/18/25
Inshallah
citrine institution
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Charcoal naked hell
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citrine institution
  07/18/25
nickel endimed
Adventurous flickering nursing home generalized bond
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Aphrodisiac crackhouse volcanic crater
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
Cocky swashbuckling theatre party of the first part
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
buck-toothed fat ankles degenerate
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
Cocky swashbuckling theatre party of the first part
  07/18/25
lol 180
Pontificating blathering step-uncle's house
  07/18/25
180
buck-toothed fat ankles degenerate
  07/18/25
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Garnet indecent indian lodge
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
Flesh lettuce locus
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
provocative silver associate
  07/18/25
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citrine institution
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
bright parlour
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
Talented point
  07/18/25
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citrine institution
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
painfully honest azure son of senegal gas station
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
stirring olive crotch
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
stirring olive crotch
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
stirring olive crotch
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
massive patrolman telephone
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
pea-brained balding station
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
beta obsidian house fortuitous meteor
  07/18/25
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Bonkers wine state
  07/19/25
I wish.
Exhilarant self-absorbed feces
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
jade temple
  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: citrine institution



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Corner

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: citrine institution

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Charcoal naked hell



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: citrine institution



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Adventurous flickering nursing home generalized bond

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac crackhouse volcanic crater

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Cocky swashbuckling theatre party of the first part

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: buck-toothed fat ankles degenerate

What is the bulk of your business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111384)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Cocky swashbuckling theatre party of the first part

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Pontificating blathering step-uncle's house

lol 180

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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: buck-toothed fat ankles degenerate

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Garnet indecent indian lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Flesh lettuce locus

prole squabbles, llp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111464)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: provocative silver associate

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: citrine institution



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: bright parlour

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Talented point

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: citrine institution



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: painfully honest azure son of senegal gas station

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: stirring olive crotch

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: stirring olive crotch

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: stirring olive crotch

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: massive patrolman telephone

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: pea-brained balding station

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Anal poppy bawdyhouse twinkling uncleanness

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: beta obsidian house fortuitous meteor

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Bonkers wine state



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Exhilarant self-absorbed feces

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: jade temple

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2],#49111741)