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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
supple ceo
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
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  03/19/18
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  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
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  03/22/18
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supple ceo
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
snowy swashbuckling state
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
supple ceo
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
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  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
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  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
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supple ceo
  03/19/18
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Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
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electric jew crotch
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This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
supple ceo
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
electric jew crotch
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
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That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: supple ceo

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: electric jew crotch

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: supple ceo

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Purple Swollen Codepig Meetinghouse

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Floppy Insanely Creepy Hell Pisswyrm



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: infuriating rigpig office



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Drab parlor depressive

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Brindle Talking Church



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: supple ceo

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: supple ceo

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Autistic market

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: wonderful overrated stage athletic conference



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Tripping dull base



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Razzle gay idea he suggested



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: wonderful overrated stage athletic conference



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: beady-eyed native



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: hilarious startled location

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: slimy razzle-dazzle striped hyena corn cake

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: mewling field gay wizard

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: supple ceo

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Fighting white menage

cr, huge patent prole tell

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: supple ceo



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Autistic market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Ocher Pervert

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: supple ceo

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: snowy swashbuckling state

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: supple ceo

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: snowy swashbuckling state

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Exciting mauve indirect expression travel guidebook

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: supple ceo

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: hilarious startled location

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: garnet party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: electric jew crotch

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Light senate legend

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: electric jew crotch

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: supple ceo

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: electric jew crotch

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Autistic market

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Autistic market

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Exciting mauve indirect expression travel guidebook

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Light senate legend

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bearded Charismatic Philosopher-king Box Office

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: abnormal know-it-all psychic laser beams

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Crawly Hospital Rigor

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Duck-like Tanning Salon Sweet Tailpipe

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: splenetic police squad

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Flesh cocky theater

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: aromatic nudist mexican

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: snowy swashbuckling state

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Cracking Massive Spot

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2],#36050530)