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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
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much more than that
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anal rape?
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But also some negative consequences
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
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Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
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why who is he?
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Cleveland *Indians*
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
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Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
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i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
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is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
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A year? Yeah.
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
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the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
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wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
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import the third world, become the third world
Histrionic pit useless brakes
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what retards, risking their careers for $5k
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*destroying
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How do you calculate $5k
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thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
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That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
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Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
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Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
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How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
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Jews maf
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it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
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probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
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but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
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seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
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what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
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Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
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Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
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there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
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the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
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i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
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solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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that is fucking hilarious.
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
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its real, clearly a major league reference
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
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could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Disturbing Fragrant Gas Station Incel

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: saffron razzle-dazzle sweet tailpipe parlor

much more than that

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: motley locus persian

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: appetizing dark parlour boltzmann

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: chartreuse station



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Disturbing Fragrant Gas Station Incel

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Spectacular weed whacker

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Charismatic Crawly Famous Landscape Painting Roast Beef



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

why who is he?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: lavender theater stage karate

Lol sup ballmer

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Disturbing Fragrant Gas Station Incel



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: grizzly azn hell

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Diverse Topaz Box Office Sandwich

Cleveland *Indians*

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Insanely creepy irradiated space wrinkle

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Turquoise costumed legal warrant puppy

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Turquoise costumed legal warrant puppy

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Histrionic pit useless brakes

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: supple ruby piazza feces

A year? Yeah.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Deranged Area

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: useless old irish cottage site

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Insanely creepy irradiated space wrinkle

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Histrionic pit useless brakes

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: grizzly azn hell

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

*destroying

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: saffron razzle-dazzle sweet tailpipe parlor

How do you calculate $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: grizzly azn hell

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: saffron razzle-dazzle sweet tailpipe parlor

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: lascivious violet casino laser beams

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Orchid jewess

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Histrionic pit useless brakes

Jews maf

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Turquoise costumed legal warrant puppy

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Turquoise costumed legal warrant puppy

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: grizzly azn hell

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Deranged Area

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Orchid jewess

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: sinister sepia market

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: sinister sepia market

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Deranged Area

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: sinister sepia market

lol

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: brilliant sticky public bath

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Histrionic pit useless brakes



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: cheese-eating principal's office sneaky criminal

that is fucking hilarious.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Insanely creepy irradiated space wrinkle

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: grizzly azn hell

its real, clearly a major league reference

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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: useless old irish cottage site

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Orchid jewess

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: chartreuse station



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Thriller Well-lubricated Stage Community Account

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Histrionic pit useless brakes



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: primrose office athletic conference

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Mischievous Razzle Menage

lol

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: lascivious violet casino laser beams

Lmao

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