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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
motley locus
  11/09/25
180
chestnut adventurous spot knife
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
motley locus
  11/09/25
much more than that
mahogany space indirect expression
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Embarrassed to the bone bull headed boiling water
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Racy deranged mental disorder
  11/09/25
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Disgusting lettuce locale
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
chestnut adventurous spot knife
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Flushed base
  11/09/25
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Erotic regret love of her life
  11/09/25
why who is he?
motley locus
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
demanding turdskin parlor
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chestnut adventurous spot knife
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cerise electric furnace
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cr he blows
Stirring nursing home clown
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Hideous godawful menage
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Hideous godawful menage
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
180 legend
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
motley locus
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
lilac frum nowag
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
cracking magenta office
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Maniacal really tough guy
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Marvelous very tactful stag film
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
lilac frum nowag
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Stirring nursing home clown
  11/09/25
*destroying
motley locus
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
mahogany space indirect expression
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Stirring nursing home clown
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
mahogany space indirect expression
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
supple jade cruise ship
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
motley locus
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
motley locus
  11/09/25
Jews maf
lilac frum nowag
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
motley locus
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Stirring nursing home clown
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Maniacal really tough guy
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Pale boyish senate tattoo
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
motley locus
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Pale boyish senate tattoo
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Maniacal really tough guy
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
motley locus
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
motley locus
  11/09/25
lol
Pale boyish senate tattoo
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
High-end mexican
  11/09/25
...
lilac frum nowag
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Cyan wild giraffe shrine
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Stirring nursing home clown
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Marvelous very tactful stag film
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant
  11/09/25
...
Disgusting lettuce locale
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
motley locus
  11/10/25
...
lilac frum nowag
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
maize charismatic community account
  11/10/25
lol
Curious abode
  11/10/25
Lmao
supple jade cruise ship
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: motley locus

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: chestnut adventurous spot knife

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: motley locus

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: mahogany space indirect expression

much more than that

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone bull headed boiling water

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Racy deranged mental disorder

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Disgusting lettuce locale



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: chestnut adventurous spot knife

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Flushed base

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Erotic regret love of her life



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: motley locus

why who is he?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: demanding turdskin parlor

Lol sup ballmer

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: chestnut adventurous spot knife



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: cerise electric furnace



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home clown

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Hideous godawful menage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Hideous godawful menage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: 180 legend

Cleveland *Indians*

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: motley locus

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: lilac frum nowag

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: cracking magenta office

A year? Yeah.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Maniacal really tough guy

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Marvelous very tactful stag film

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: lilac frum nowag

import the third world, become the third world

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home clown

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: motley locus

*destroying

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: mahogany space indirect expression

How do you calculate $5k

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home clown

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: mahogany space indirect expression

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: supple jade cruise ship

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: motley locus

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: motley locus

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: lilac frum nowag

Jews maf

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: motley locus

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser insanely creepy ratface

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home clown

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Maniacal really tough guy

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Pale boyish senate tattoo

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: motley locus

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Pale boyish senate tattoo

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Maniacal really tough guy

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: motley locus

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: motley locus

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Pale boyish senate tattoo

lol

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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: High-end mexican

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: lilac frum nowag



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Cyan wild giraffe shrine

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Provocative Water Buffalo Crackhouse

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home clown

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Marvelous very tactful stag film

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle impertinent legal warrant

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Disgusting lettuce locale



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: motley locus

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: lilac frum nowag



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: maize charismatic community account

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2],#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Curious abode

lol

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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: supple jade cruise ship

Lmao

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