Today I was walking around and the neighbor was outside. I asked if they had the package. They did, and they gave it to me. They apparently thought they'd hang on to it for safe keeping, and then give it to me when they got around to it.

Well, I'm about to get $250 worth of extra stuff from REI. I am reproducing their exact email below which, at no time, instructs me I must return the duplicate.

Can I keep it?

>> I’m sorry to hear your order hasn’t arrived! That’s definitely not the experience we strive for.

>>

>> I just went ahead and created a replacement order for you, XXXXXXXXXX. It should arrive by July 2nd. You’ll be able to monitor the status of your order by entering the order number here.

>>

>> Once it ships, we'll send you an email with your new tracking number.

>>

>> I’ll also have UPS email you a Return Shipping Label, just in case you end up receiving the original order. The email will contain step-by-step instructions to complete the return, if you need it.

>>

>> You should be all set here, but please let me know if you run into snags or if there’s anything else I can help with!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971639)

for hypo purposes, if the merchant is jewish, you'd have a duty to notify the merchant and ask them how they want to proceed -- and if they want the items back, they'd have to ship them back at their expense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971658)

"if you need it" almost implies that you can make a judgment call whether to keep the items or return them if you don't want them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971676)

Therefore, if I find the original, I will have the original and a return label.

Once I have both, I can use the return label, if I need it.

The question is what exactly would bring about my needing it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971694)

- you deciding you want to enrich a company with $3B revenue

- you deciding you dont want to bother with jewish shenanigans

- you deciding you want to be a good goy and "do the right thing"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971700)

i assume the free market sets the prices of the merch taking into account the dividend and annualized cost of the membership fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971750)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971766)

in practice, they're a large corporation so who cares? keep the shit, sell it, whatever.

in theory, in the sentence "I’ll also have UPS email you a Return Shipping Label, just in case you end up receiving the original order," the words "just in case" stand for "in preparation for the case where." to me, that isn't ambiguous. they're sending the label to be used in the case where you receive the original items, necessarily imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971718)

but who cares? even if they specifically said to send it back, I wouldn't. in an extremely salient possible world, your neighbor really did steal it. it's fine. the delivery got fucked up and they had to send a new one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971731)

if you take the sentence exactly as written, they're saying that they're going to send the email if MiG receives the original order. but they're sending the email either way, so clearly that's not what they meant.

so what did "just in case" actually mean there? to me, it means "to be used in the case that." how would you re-word the original sentence? "to be used in the case that the original order arrives and you feel like it"? that's adding something extra imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971746)

what i do with those 2 things is left ambiguous by saying they are giving them to me "if i need [them]."

What creates the need is not specified, which is the whole crux of the matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971753)

but more importantly you should keep or sell it imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971770)

of course, if you regularly claimed that packages are lost and got replacements and returned them for full refunds, they might red flag you.

but in a one-off situation like this, it's nbd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971814)

2) it's not active scammer territory because you had no intent to scam

3) in terms of scamminess, how's selling them on ebay any different than returning them to REI? i fail to see how it matters where you're trying to profit from with the goods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971834)

2) it's only scamming once you pretend you didn't like them to get money back. although... I guess sending it back is saying "I don't want these" rather than "I don't like these," and it's true that he doesn't want the duplicate items, so maybe it doesn't require lying about being dissatisfied

3) again it's a matter of not going out of your way to correct their mistake vs. actively deceiving them. but it's only active deception if he selects something like "I'm not satisfied with this item" in a dropdown or something. if he can just return them because he doesn't want/need them anymore, which he really doesn't because he acquired them in the meantime, then it's probably still not scamming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49971842)

Similar thing happened to me years ago where I ordered dress shirts from brooks brothers and somehow instead they sent me man Spanx compression shirts. When I called them they told me to just use the return label and send them back. I was like lol yea I’ll get right on that. I ended up giving them to my brother for Xmas that year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878646&forum_id=2],#49972204)