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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
arousing idiot
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
slate chest-beating athletic conference ladyboy
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
fishy area digit ratio
  06/15/18
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Ruddy Temple Shitlib
  06/15/18
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Ruddy Temple Shitlib
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Hateful Sable Puppy
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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arousing idiot
  02/12/22
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BakerHostetler
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
mint indian lodge feces
  06/15/18
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Ruddy Temple Shitlib
  06/15/18
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Aphrodisiac Yarmulke
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
mint indian lodge feces
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Magenta mildly autistic lay twinkling uncleanness
  06/15/18
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autistic regret public bath
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Ruddy Temple Shitlib
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
jet scourge upon the earth love of her life
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Bisexual State Nibblets
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Stirring school degenerate
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Hateful Sable Puppy
  06/15/18
sounds 180
mint indian lodge feces
  06/15/18
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autistic regret public bath
  06/15/18
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Aphrodisiac Yarmulke
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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  06/15/18
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Ruddy Temple Shitlib
  06/15/18
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fishy area digit ratio
  06/15/18
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Aphrodisiac Yarmulke
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
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Stirring school degenerate
  06/15/18
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Aphrodisiac Yarmulke
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excitant lodge son of senegal
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
arousing idiot
  10/06/21
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arousing idiot
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Pearly house newt
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
arousing idiot
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
diverse abusive jew cumskin
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
arousing idiot
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
diverse abusive jew cumskin
  06/15/18
Explain
arousing idiot
  06/15/18
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arousing idiot
  06/16/18
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arousing idiot
  09/04/18
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excitant lodge son of senegal
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
medicated milk
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Bespoke Locus
  06/15/18
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arousing idiot
  02/12/21
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soggy garnet plaza philosopher-king
  02/12/21
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Aphrodisiac Yarmulke
  02/15/21
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arousing idiot
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Magical Charismatic Boiling Water Tanning Salon
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
appetizing bronze associate
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
arousing idiot
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
coral soul-stirring filthpig
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
arousing idiot
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
coral soul-stirring filthpig
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
arousing idiot
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Sepia lettuce
  02/12/21
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soggy garnet plaza philosopher-king
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Magical Charismatic Boiling Water Tanning Salon
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Sepia lettuce
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
greedy misanthropic space
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Sepia lettuce
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
greedy misanthropic space
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
appetizing bronze associate
  02/12/21
lol no
Stubborn iridescent site cuckold
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
free-loading irradiated hissy fit
  02/15/21
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arousing idiot
  06/29/21
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arousing idiot
  10/06/21
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black voyeur sandwich
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
Emerald whorehouse
  10/06/21
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arousing idiot
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: arousing idiot

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: slate chest-beating athletic conference ladyboy

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: fishy area digit ratio

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Ruddy Temple Shitlib



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Ruddy Temple Shitlib



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Hateful Sable Puppy

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: electric gay rehab mother

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: BakerHostetler ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: mint indian lodge feces

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Ruddy Temple Shitlib



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: mint indian lodge feces

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Magenta mildly autistic lay twinkling uncleanness

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: autistic regret public bath



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Ruddy Temple Shitlib

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: jet scourge upon the earth love of her life

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Bisexual State Nibblets

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Stirring school degenerate

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Hateful Sable Puppy

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: mint indian lodge feces

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: autistic regret public bath



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Dashing dingle berry

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Ruddy Temple Shitlib



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: fishy area digit ratio



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Stirring school degenerate



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: excitant lodge son of senegal



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: excitant lodge son of senegal



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: arousing idiot

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Pearly house newt

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: arousing idiot

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: diverse abusive jew cumskin

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: arousing idiot

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: diverse abusive jew cumskin

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: arousing idiot

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: excitant lodge son of senegal



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: medicated milk

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Bespoke Locus

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: soggy garnet plaza philosopher-king



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Yarmulke



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Magical Charismatic Boiling Water Tanning Salon

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: appetizing bronze associate

holy shit

out the firm

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: arousing idiot

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: coral soul-stirring filthpig

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: arousing idiot

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: coral soul-stirring filthpig

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: arousing idiot

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Sepia lettuce

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: soggy garnet plaza philosopher-king



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Magical Charismatic Boiling Water Tanning Salon

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Sepia lettuce

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: greedy misanthropic space

Better partnership odds

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Sepia lettuce

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: greedy misanthropic space

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: appetizing bronze associate

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Stubborn iridescent site cuckold

lol no

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: free-loading irradiated hissy fit

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2],#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: arousing idiot



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: black voyeur sandwich



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Emerald whorehouse

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: arousing idiot



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