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Date: March 16th, 2013 4:53 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good vibrant cruise ship

SAN FRANCISCO (CNN) -- The ACLU filed suit in federal court in California today to force the San Francisco Giants to include same-sex couples during game time camera shots, according to the complaint.

The suit claims that the Giants "continuously and systematically" discriminated against same-sex couples at games by "deliberately selecting opposite-sex couples for display in the 'Kiss Cam,'" in which videographers capture couples in the stadium on a giant video display on hopes that the couple kiss.

"It's obvious that the Giants don't wish to offend a number of bigoted fans at their games," stated Jennie Alexander, an ACLU attorney in northern California, in a written press release. "But the Constitution demands equal protection for all citizens, whether they are same-sex or opposite-sex couples."

Although AT&T Park is entirely privately financed, the complaint alleges that the stadium is a "place of public accommodation" subject to anti-discrimination laws and the tenets of the Fourteenth Amendment.

The complaint details the attempts of several same-sex couples to appear on camera. One pair of males went so far as to offer a "Kiss Cam" operator payment in exchange for video time. The camera man refused, allegedly reporting that his supervisors "didn't want you people" on camera.

Members of the Giants organization had no comment.

"It's the 21st century," Alexander noted in the press release. "It's about time for this kind of discrimination to end."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/US/03/15/aclu.camera.lawsuit/index.html

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Date: March 20th, 2013 10:04 AM
Author: galvanic painfully honest casino

"Although AT&T Park is entirely privately financed, the complaint alleges that the stadium is a "place of public accommodation" subject to anti-discrimination laws and the tenets of the Fourteenth Amendment."

This is correct, but the article makes it sound like it's absurd to call a stadium a place of public accommodation.

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Date: March 16th, 2013 4:53 PM
Author: Massive laughsome whorehouse

Wow thought this was flame.

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Date: February 15th, 2014 12:47 AM
Author: Judgmental Legend Giraffe



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Date: May 12th, 2014 10:30 AM
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Date: March 16th, 2013 4:54 PM
Author: Yapping antidepressant drug hissy fit

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:33 PM
Author: soul-stirring sanctuary windowlicker

shitlibs gonna shitlib

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:29 PM
Author: sadistic hyperactive fat ankles

I am going to steal this phrase.

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:36 PM
Author: Provocative Maize Crotch Stage

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:38 PM
Author: bright set

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:39 PM
Author: indigo french chef

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:39 PM
Author: beady-eyed fuchsia boistinker bawdyhouse

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:40 PM
Author: indigo french chef

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:42 PM
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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:39 PM
Author: beady-eyed fuchsia boistinker bawdyhouse

"we're not gay; we're just really good friends" says totally gay couple on kiss cam

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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:41 PM
Author: Jet hairraiser box office

The ACLU should plant a handsome looking gay bro with a pseudo-girlfriend. When the camera gets to them he should go in for the kiss, but then suddenly turn to his boyfriend, get on one knee, and present him with an engagement ring.

"And the crowd goes wild!"

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:21 PM
Author: Cyan stag film keepsake machete

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Date: March 20th, 2013 1:18 PM
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Date: March 16th, 2013 5:47 PM
Author: marvelous puce place of business

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: hot cerebral base

um...duty?... damages? ...any legal thought at all?

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:32 PM
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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:34 PM
Author: Flatulent marketing idea site

Thought for sure this would be flame.

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:37 PM
Author: hot cerebral base

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:48 PM
Author: Flatulent marketing idea site

Yeah, I know it's flame. I was making a funny.

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Date: March 16th, 2013 6:58 PM
Author: Gold Prole Brunch

Seems like a solid case. CA prohibits anti fag discdrimination in places of public accommodation. Stadium definitely would be place of public accommodation.

Maybe get injunctive relief. No damages. ACLU can get attorney fees.

WIsh I had brought this case (no fag)



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Date: April 4th, 2013 2:37 AM
Author: Titillating Adulterous Point Yarmulke

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:40 AM
Author: Cracking seedy heaven

Were this not bullshit, how would the issue of compelled speech fit in?

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Date: March 16th, 2013 7:02 PM
Author: Adventurous ivory shrine tattoo

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Date: March 17th, 2013 4:07 PM
Author: Mint Swollen Volcanic Crater

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Date: March 20th, 2013 9:47 AM
Author: Low-t shitlib

Gay fan asks NFL team to end Kiss Cam 'joke'

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--gay-fan-asks-jacksonville-jaguars-to-end-kiss-cam--joke--210850596.html

Kiss Cam usually gets some laughs at arenas and stadiums around the nation, as a camera locks in on a couple in the stands and encourages (shames?) them into lip-lock. But a long-time Jacksonville Jaguars fan noticed something on Kiss Cam that irked him. On Monday, he decided to do something about it.

If you've seen Kiss Cam, you know this trick: After a series of shots of men sitting next to women, Kiss Cam will sometimes frame a pair of players of the opposing team on the bench. Dave Uible, who is gay, saw this gag and didn't think it was funny.

"I think I saw it, maybe two years ago," Uible, 47, said by phone Tuesday. "Then I saw it this year. The thing is they have this section at Jags games for honorable kids. Some are definitely going to be gay. It gives a negative angle. I just don't think it's necessary. It just seems out of place to me."

Uible decided to write Jags owner Shad Khan about Kiss Cam on Monday after reading a story in the New York Times by Judy Battista about scrutiny on the NFL's handling of gay rights issues. Topics mentioned by Battista included the questioning of Manti Te'o about his sexual orientation and the controversy spawned by Chris Culliver's anti-gay comments at the Super Bowl. Uible read the story, wrote the letter, and sent it to Khan and cc'd the NFL. Outsports.com published it Tuesday.

He wrote:

"I am gay and I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends who are proud Jaguar season ticket holders. I'm not sure you are aware, but there is a video 'joke' called the Kiss Cam that plays at the games. Often, the bit goes like this: after showing several happy heterosexual couples kissing in the stands, the camera then pans to two opposing male players who are in close proximity and leaning toward each other – insinuating that they may do the exact same (and ostensibly wrong) thing and kiss. Hilarious, right? No, and the message is clear. Jaguars are heterosexual and approved. The opponent is 'gay,' disapproved and the butt of a crude joke. Really, why is this even at an NFL game?"

Good question. We reached out to the Jags for an answer.

"We did receive this letter," replied team spokesman Dan Edwards, "but we don't comment on letters that we receive."

[Related: Brett Favre helped steer Greg Jennings toward signing with Vikings]

To be clear, Uible is not calling for the end of Kiss Cam, just the end of the "not-too-subtle homophobic joke." And he holds no resentment toward the Jags owner; in fact, he wrote the letter in part because he felt Khan would respond favorably. "I just felt that Mr. Khan was new," Uible said, "and he would do something about it."

Uible said he's never been on Kiss Cam and is too shy to do anything if it ever happened to him. "I'm not a showboat," he said.

The letter is a small example of a larger trend: more comfort speaking out in favor of gay rights. The reaction to Culliver, who said he wouldn't want a gay teammate, was overwhelming. Resentment of NFL personnel asking Te'o about his sexual orientation was more muted but still notable. And overall, support of gay marriage has risen from 41 percent in 2004 to 58 percent now, according to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll. Uible, while certainly brave to challenge the most powerful sports league in the nation, is only the latest to make his feelings heard.

His fandom, however, is not at stake. Uible renewed his season ticket package and intends to keep going to all the home games. In fact, he has another pet peeve he'd like to address.

"I want people to know [the Jaguars] don't have a terrible attendance record compared to the rest of the nation," he said. "If you look at the rankings in attendance, Miami and Tampa are a lot below us. It kinda bugs me."

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Date: March 20th, 2013 11:04 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good vibrant cruise ship

Shitlibs gonna shitlib

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Date: March 20th, 2013 1:20 PM
Author: turquoise immigrant patrolman



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Date: March 20th, 2013 1:21 PM
Author: turquoise immigrant patrolman

Cot damn the media fucking loves giving gay people attn doesn't it?

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Date: April 4th, 2013 12:32 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good vibrant cruise ship



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Date: February 14th, 2014 11:38 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good vibrant cruise ship



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Date: February 14th, 2014 11:40 PM
Author: zombie-like resort

you fucking shitlibs. fucking with my baseball team is NOT okay

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Date: February 14th, 2014 11:59 PM
Author: turquoise immigrant patrolman



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Date: February 15th, 2014 1:12 AM
Author: Floppy amber love of her life

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Date: February 15th, 2014 1:29 AM
Author: Excitant cheese-eating public bath idiot

I hope nobody thought OP was real. Nobody's ever sued for more/"equal" time for gay kisses on kiss cams.

In all seriousness, I actually do think the KC can be used to make fun of same-sex couples and I think that is fucked up and awkward when it happens.

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The Kiss Cam is not homophobic because the Kiss Cam is a robot with no human emotions.

The following events have likely taken place at some point:

1. KC was used to encourage public romantic heterosexual displays between consenting adults.

2. KC was used to embarrass romantically non-involved individuals of different genders by encouraging a romantic display.

3. KC was used to embarrass two men by suggesting they were homosexuals.

The following event seems unlikely but possible:

4. KC was used to encourage public romantic homosexual displays between consenting adults.

Given the statistical likelihood of actions #1-3 and the relative unlikelihood of action #4, feel free to draw conclusions about the psychological dispositions of KC operators, professional sports participants and the general viewing public.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/04/26/151448145/with-a-tweet-as-player-unleashes-debate-is-kiss-cam-homophobic

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:34 AM
Author: Flirting location depressive

This is kind of like saying that when television shows like Workacholics show two straight doods getting grossed out about the possibility of kissing one another, they're discriminating against the poor gay doods who are forced to see people laugh about how gross they are.

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:23 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good vibrant cruise ship



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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:25 AM
Author: Flirting location depressive

I expected this to be blank.

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:28 AM
Author: Fluffy disgusting stage

because you're a biggoted faggot

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:29 AM
Author: Flirting location depressive

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Date: May 12th, 2014 9:39 AM
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Date: May 22nd, 2016 12:15 AM
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Noam Chomsky has called the ACLU a "conservative" organization

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Date: June 9th, 2016 11:11 AM
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