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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Thirsty trump supporter market
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
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  06/15/18
As I understand it.
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they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
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  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  02/12/22
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Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
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  06/15/18
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  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
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  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
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Heady Chad Hunting Ground
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
electric aggressive blood rage
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
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  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
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  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
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  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Ivory menage prole
  06/15/18
sounds 180
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
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For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
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  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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  06/15/18
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yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
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To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
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I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
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  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
cyan pozpig field
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Thirsty trump supporter market
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
slate glittery ceo
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Thirsty trump supporter market
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
slate glittery ceo
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
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  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
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No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
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Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
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Better partnership odds
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Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
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that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: floppy dark quadroon

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: scarlet piazza personal credit line

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: electric aggressive blood rage



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: electric aggressive blood rage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Ivory menage prole

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: diverse flesh twinkling uncleanness parlor

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: flushed tank

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: electric aggressive blood rage



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Gaped cruise ship



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: flushed tank

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Heady Chad Hunting Ground



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: electric aggressive blood rage

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling orchestra pit

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: rose racy church building haunted graveyard

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Titillating mood indian lodge

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Ivory menage prole

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: flushed tank

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Heady Chad Hunting Ground



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Vibrant Den

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Gaped cruise ship

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Titillating mood indian lodge



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Useless maize stead



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Translucent Pungent University Reading Party

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: milky arousing garrison

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: milky arousing garrison

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Useless maize stead



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Curious bat-shit-crazy area

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Hairraiser gay wizard property

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: bonkers roast beef

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: cyan pozpig field

holy shit

out the firm

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: slate glittery ceo

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: slate glittery ceo

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Puce house keepsake machete

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: bonkers roast beef

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Puce house keepsake machete

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: outnumbered kitchen gaming laptop

Better partnership odds

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Puce house keepsake machete

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: outnumbered kitchen gaming laptop

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: cyan pozpig field

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: comical preventive strike

lol no

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: exciting dun community account institution

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Walnut nighttime location

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Thirsty trump supporter market



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