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Date: March 11th, 2024 5:15 PM Author: Histrionic bawdyhouse
To be fair,
LMAO
Chris, you child-raping pedo retard. JFC.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:32 PM Author: Godawful hell
I am lmao just lmaoooooo at how the judges just completely destroy him. It seems like he was not prepared to answer even the most basic and obvious questions with any type of confidence...questions that should have been easily predictable. One thing is for sure though, SP really, really "appreciates" all of these questions; he is very, very "thankful" to his interlocutors.
My favorite part is where SP comes up with some frivolous argument steeped in state tort law and the judge basically asks if he would be "more comfortable" with his case being dismissed on federal law instead. And SP just helplessly sputters around.
Also, I don't do shitlaw, don't know shitlaw and torts at all, don't know what falls within the FTCA, but why the fuck didn't SP at least try to argue that the consequences of the act (injuries) weren't intended? Can't an intentional act with unintended consequences be negligence? And wouldn't that normally be a fact issue that would often survive a MTD? Something like these cases:
https://plaintiffmagazine.com/recent-issues/item/accidents-and-intentional-conduct
How did SP, who devoted dozens or hundreds of hours to this case and is a "specialist" in this field, not come up with an argument that took 3 seconds of thinking and 10 seconds of googling from someone with passing knowledge of torts?
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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:57 PM Author: Bateful heaven
Just saw this. More outting I guess.
First, the performance was fine. It was already played here and commented on here months ago as fine. Stop being ridiculous. It’s a Hail Mary pass on a point of law that could theoretically get some traction as it is OR open a door for a new plaintiffs cause of action in my state.
Second, I didn’t do the briefs, I didn’t do the pleadings or the arguments in lower court. I didn’t write the appeal. I was arguing an appeal for work done by another atty who took the case in and identified the potential grounds for appeal in his mind but was unable to argue it himself. So the hours and hours bit is a little unfair. I simply had the record and the appellate briefs to work with, and an open scheduling slot with the fourth circuit that had better be filled with one of us.
Third, the whole name of the game here was to find insurance. As an intentional act, the postman’s private car insurance wouldn’t cover it. So would the USA? As a “Negligent act” performed by its agent the postal service? There’s a federal statue that excludes US liability for acts sounding in battery. But Virginia law doesn’t recognize loud noises as battery. So why not consider it negligent horseplay on the part of the postman, which is what it was. Otherwise plaintiff is essentially remedyless. He’s deaf now and remedyless. All of this may explain why the appeal was pursued. My job is to try to help people in difficult situations, and sometimes that means pressing arguments for the expansion of the law on a point.
The oral argument was fine, and all the work done on the case including the appellate briefs, was also very good. Unfortunately, and in a move surprising no one, the fourth circuit didn’t agree.
(Did they create the possibility of a new tort in Virginia? Generally speaking, as a plaintiffs lawyer, that, at least, is a good thing.)
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Date: March 11th, 2024 5:18 PM Author: Histrionic bawdyhouse
To be fair,
"I did great, I was just stymied in obtaining justice for my clients because the EVIL CONSERVATIVES ON THE 4TH CIRCUIT SUCK!"
Lol Chris, I can only hope you're as incompetent at actually sodomizing children as you are at every other facet of your gay and pathetic "life."
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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: startling gold azn
this guy is a straight up menace to society
also he's a literal child rapist
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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: bronze appetizing step-uncle's house
As an impartial third party, my immediate reaction is that this puts spaceporn's reputation as a skilled and experienced attorney into jeopardy.
I am eager to see how spaceporn responds to these revelations.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:10 PM Author: Khaki shaky community account
You already know how spaceporn will respond.
"Every poaster in this thread is Zappin."
"How many cases have you taken to court?" [ignoring his own incompetence]
"I handled that case better than any xo poaster would have."
"I'm too smart for you to follow what I was arguing."
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Date: March 11th, 2024 5:22 PM Author: Histrionic bawdyhouse
To be fair,
Unfortunately for you, after listening to that pathetic "oral argument" the rest of us are absolutely certain that you don't either, bud.
And unlike Hegemon, you're a trained attorney who was hired to make good arguments to convince judges in a court of law.
Whoops.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 3:59 PM Author: stirring magical business firm
Pg. 10:
J. Thackar, concurring:
I join the majority's opinion in its entirety. I write separately to express my concern that everyone involved in this case is a fucking retard.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 5:32 PM Author: Peach State
I am literally at a semi-formal dinner party right now, playing this thing aloud from my phone which is centered on the table. There's a couple of noteworthy people here including a former senior VP at BOA and the previous CTO at Pinterest.
The crowd is on their fucking knees dying of laughter.
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Date: March 11th, 2024 8:46 PM Author: Passionate pit athletic conference
We agree that Billups’s claim, at its core, "sounds" in battery and therefore affirm.
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Seems like they were having fun with it
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But this sucks for the plaintiff. I'm happy SP took a swing at getting this guy some justice
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:39 PM Author: nighttime citrine stain
fuck, what the chad us attorney steps up it's just so fucking sad. sp didn't even unmute his mic before he began his rebuttal. even though this is such a sps slam dunk appeal he was able to speak eloquently and confidently.
also, sp is probably blaming this on being a loser case. but you can still confidently answer and anticipate questions there. everyone here who has argued in court has probably had to argue some loser arguments. i'm sure sp would stammer about even if the sides were reversed.
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Date: April 8th, 2024 12:06 AM Author: soggy yarmulke
The court hanged spaceporn on "sound waves" and other minutia and he didn't come prepared to actually argue the case afaik. Ffs, he could've at least done something to argue that sovereign immunity is qualified and does not absolve the agency of liability under the FTCA. Iirc, 28 U.S.C. § 1346(b)(1) (2010) specifically holds that agencies are culpable in the same manner and to the same extent as a private individual under like circumstances. See also F.D.I.C. v. Meyer, 510 U.S. 471, 477 (1994).
In layman's terms, the USPS is negligent af and is managed terribly. The supervisor and others probably knew about the prank, as well as the Hole in the Blinds, and did nothing. If this were a private business, they could've sued the owner for sure, full stop, and been Indemnified. Discuss.
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