debate report (Karlstack)
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: Karlstack ( )
it wasn't livestreamed... it will be released on YouTube next week
Introduction Statements: Crushed my 5 minute statement about liberty and the founding fathers and the practical realities of what disenfranchising 95% of American adults would mean. My opponent's opening statement weirdly focused a lot on me being Canadian. He kept trying to bring up Canada the whole debate, shitting on Canada, and I brushed it aside and never took the bait.
Open Debate Round 1: I think this was my weakest section, he pushed me around a bit and repeatedly steered the conversation to high minded ideals like rights, privileges, responsibility, duty, honor entitlement, etc. This wasn't my strong suit and I froze up a couple times. Even when I write substacks, I am not good at preaching about big picture ideas, I typically thrive when I narrow in on one practical story.
Open Debate Round 2: This was much stronger for me, I was more comfortable and assertive and talked over him and pushed him around a bit, and importantly I steered the conversation completely away from high minded ideals to the practical reality (economic distortions, voting outcomes, etc.) of what would happen if 95% of Americans were disenfranchised... I made a strong case that a military electorate would be the most radical social experiment ever conducted, and yes, democracy is imperfect, but not so imperfect that it's worth blowing up western civilization / the status quo over
Moderator crossfire round: I think I won this round too, because it was mostly about definitions, and my opponent repeatedly kept trying to redefine or widen the scope of "military service" to "national service" that includes FEMA, volunteering, firefighting etc. but I shut that down and said he was weaseling out of the prompt, which was just about military service, not national service
Closing statement: I brought up ancient Sparta, Starship troopers, freedom, morality, political agency, what makes a good voter, wisdom, etc. and it went well. He focused on, like, "Oh should children be allowed to vote? Should a driving test be required to drive? Should children be allowed to drive?" and it was pretty retarded
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49948976)
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: Consuela
Congrats, it’s good that you got some public speaking experience
Not a big fan of the topic tho
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49948981) |
Date: June 19th, 2026 2:38 PM Author: aqua jeet (🧐)
"He focused on, like, "Oh should children be allowed to vote? Should a driving test be required to drive? Should children be allowed to drive?" and it was pretty retarded"
bro if u didnt win this round u need to grow a beard asap
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49948992) |
Date: June 19th, 2026 2:55 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Hey man, great job. Sounds like you got what you wanted out of it and didn't let us down. Wish it had been live streamed, but will watch it when it comes out
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49949082)
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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:58 PM
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THIS IS not SPARTA!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49949091) |
Date: June 19th, 2026 3:02 PM Author: military dictatorship nationalism
Lol universal suffrage is actually a much more radical Social Experiment than only military members "voting" (that's literally what the aristocracy was before the modern era)
Sounds like you just did a lot better prep than he did and thought about the rhetorical presentation better than he did. Good job. Can't wait to not watch the debate at all and vote for you as the winner
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2],#49949101) |
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