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it's weirdly easy to pinpoint the peak of our supposed civilization
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Date: May 30th, 2019 2:40 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine pericles funeral oration.
"Athens, alone of the states we know, comes to her testing time in a greatness that surpasses what was imagined of her. In her case, and in her case alone, no invading enemy is ashamed at being defeated, and no subject can complain of being governed by people unfit for their responsibilities. Mighty indeed are the marks and monuments of our empire which we have left. Future ages will wonder at us, as the present age wonders at us now. We do not need the praises of a Homer, or of anyone else whose words may delight us for the moment, but whose estimation of facts will fall short of what is really true. For our adventurous spirit has forced an entry into every sea and into every land; and everywhere we have left behind us everlasting memorials of good done to our friends or suffering inflicted on our enemies."
at this moment:
the parthenon had just been thrown up; phidias was still working; socrates and plato may have helped write the speech; sophocles, euripides, aristophanes, and herodotus were alive and well; thucydides and hippocrates had great work in front of them.
pericles would be dead a year later and athens would lose the war never to fully recover its glory. |
Date: May 30th, 2019 7:19 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine only other contender is aussie bantz on 4chan ca. 2017 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315618) |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:21 PM Author: Galvanic rebellious native Everything has gone to Hell in a handbasket since David Lee Roth left Van Halen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315626) |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:26 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine its van halen not van hagar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315645) |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:27 PM Author: irradiated ape patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315647) |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:23 PM Author: Floppy ultramarine state i dont know any of the people you mention except socrates and plato. sounds like athens wasnt all that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315633) |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:26 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine Phidias or Pheidias (/ˈfɪdiəs/; Greek: Φειδίας, Pheidias; c. 480 – 430 BC) was a Greek sculptor, painter, and architect. His statue of Zeus at Olympia was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. Phidias also designed the statues of the goddess Athena on the Athenian Acropolis, namely the Athena Parthenos inside the Parthenon, and the Athena Promachos, a colossal bronze which stood between it and the Propylaea,[1] a monumental gateway that served as the entrance to the Acropolis in Athens.
Phidias is often credited as the main instigator of the Classical Greek sculptural design. Today, most critics and historians consider him one of the greatest of all ancient Greek sculptors.
According to the Roman historian Livy, the Roman general Aemilius Paulus (the victor over Macedon) saw the statue and "was moved to his soul, as if he had seen the god in person,"[9] while the 1st-century AD Greek orator Dio Chrysostom declared that a single glimpse of the statue would make a man forget all his earthly troubles. |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:29 PM Author: big-titted cowardly rehab https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14660
Aristotle wasn't even born until 384 BC! And living standards looked like they didn't peak until the day of Phillip's conquest. |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:34 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine the humiliating destruction of athens as an independent power was the end of peak greece, dawg.
greece went on. but not the athens of pericles. |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:35 PM Author: irradiated ape patrolman crrrr hate all these athens haters (i.e. covetous jews) who have popped up in the last decade or two |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:37 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine tbh the idea of shitlib empire was bound to fail.
but there was a dream that was athens. and men still wonder at it. |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:45 PM Author: irradiated ape patrolman i suppose but boys can always dream |
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Date: May 30th, 2019 7:45 PM Author: big-titted cowardly rehab Living standards kept rising after the pelopenssian war. Sparta couldn’t really extract much from their victory since their subjugation agriculture system was so manpower intensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38315795) |
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Date: August 11th, 2019 8:04 PM Author: scarlet bonkers locale dopamine dat cancel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4272878&forum_id=2#38672172) |