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Do employers call references from 1L summer?
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:21 AM Author: fear-inspiring brunch for 2L firm job? how about clerkships; is it useful to have a good LOR from a 1L employer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6303645) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:37 AM Author: electric maize state Subject: depends on the employer Covington called my 1L employer reference and had a pretty long talk with them (30 minutes). They were the only one as far as I know. Not using any employer letters for clerkship app ... just 3 profs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6304185) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:41 AM Author: Gay Theater Boistinker i was going to post a categorical no, as this had never happened to me, nor had i ever heard of it happening. so this is interesting information. i'd suggest, though, it probably isn't a wide practice, and is probably more likely at an extremely selective firm like covington. i'd imagine the 1L firm was a pretty good one, too, if there was 30 minutes of conversation in what a 1L summer associate had done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6304223) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:42 AM Author: irradiated vermilion doctorate patrolman it was my understanding that every firm has a policy not to discuss past employees, except to confirm/deny things like employment, employment dates, whether they left or were fired, and factual stuff like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6304231) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:47 AM Author: electric maize state I would imagine they discussed something more considering the length of the conversation (relayed back to me by the lawyer they called at my 1L firm). It might be a regional thing - I was in a satellite office of a southern-based firm, so may be different than NYC/DC firms.
For anybody interviewing at Covington, they also had a lengthy phone call with my law prof reference and read my writing sample (discussed it with at least 1 person on my callback). |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:58 AM Author: Fragrant Magical Plaza Ape i'm pretty sure 1 person is assigned to writing sample reading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6304333) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 11:59 AM Author: fear-inspiring brunch thanks for the info. was it Covington DC? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6304343) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:36 PM Author: electric maize state Subject: yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6305039) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 5:56 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone field toilet seat Q: Why does Covington [DC] seek references? A: Our goal in speaking with an applicant's references is to develop a more complete and detailed understanding of the candidate and his or her qualifications. Thorough inquiries of an applicants references are a distinctive and crucial element of the Firm's hiring process for potential summer and regular associates. This allows us to look beyond the candidate's paper record or relatively brief campus interview. We ask every candidate for summer or associate positions to provide two to three references who can speak to the candidate's qualifications, including analytical and writing ability, judgment, maturity, and collegiality. |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:18 PM Author: racy locus goal in life Covington's process is pretty impressive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6308285) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:59 PM Author: Stirring university The most impressive part is that they do all than and still don't take any longer to call people back than most other firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6309306) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:37 PM Author: Exhilarant yapping crotch Many firms do it, even not-as-selective firms like Cooley Godward, among others. Cooley even states that they will up front. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6308372) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 2:39 PM Author: Sienna cracking lodge nibblets My impression is that Covington is the only one that does this on any consistent basis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6305661) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:03 PM Author: provocative whorehouse I can confirm this. Covington called my 1L firm reference and my previous boss and would not give me a callback until the reference checks even though the hiring partner really liked me.
They were probably my favorite firm in terms of personality, but their office in my target city was too small. They ended up with 3 summer associates, one from Yale and two from Harvard. |
Date: July 26th, 2006 2:29 PM Author: rusted trailer park at least two firms (arnold & porter and my current) called my references. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6305544) |
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Date: July 26th, 2006 7:16 PM Author: saffron jewess roast beef Do they contact all references? Like beyond your 1L job, will they contact employers for work you did part-time while in college (I came straight from ugrad)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=461948&forum_id=2#6308279) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2007 12:47 AM Author: coral supple lay jap Is it necessary to list a 1L summer reference if you have 2 professor references?
How should you handle this if your summer employer thinks you'll likely come back? Do you ask a partner for a ref for OCI? This seems awkward. |