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MPA have you ever noticed Taxonomy is a fucking joke?

Why did the Victorian toe counters decide Algae is usually a...
idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke
  01/23/25
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Fear-inspiring State
  01/23/25
Crazy right? Especially when you realize algae and flesh e...
idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke
  01/23/25
Have you read Foucault's "Order of Things"? It get...
Mind-boggling institution dragon
  01/23/25
Yeah I read that one. I think that was the one where he get...
idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke
  01/23/25
I'm waiting for the second edition of this to read: https...
Charismatic stag film rigpig
  01/23/25
Interesting
Mind-boggling institution dragon
  01/23/25
read this whole thread thinking you were discussing taxiderm...
burgundy dead boistinker
  01/23/25
originally read this as Taxidermy
impressive bearded brunch
  01/23/25
dumb thread
comical flirting therapy
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke

Why did the Victorian toe counters decide Algae is usually a “Protozoa” like that drawer where the keep all the misfits and slap a Greek name on it and hope no one asks too many questions but then it photosynthesizes and has giant blooms like a plant but also some forms get thrown in the bacteria category too and those forms sometimes behave like a parasite? Also whats up with yeast being in the same “kingdom” as psilocybin and penicillin?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48580833)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring State



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke

Crazy right? Especially when you realize algae and flesh eating amoebas and those weird little tentacled octopus looking microorganisms allegedly are “proto-animals” like maybe if they had natural selected just a little more they would be insects or something, maybe even mammals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48580955)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Mind-boggling institution dragon

Have you read Foucault's "Order of Things"? It gets into a lot of that.

Taxonomy flame doesn't really bother me because it's inherently an exercise in line-drawing, and as sciences and allied fields go, it's at least much more aware of its own contributions to the structuring/production of its own truth/knowledge. In that way, it's probably a happy medium:

The humanities are very aware of their own production of their 'knowledge,' but that knowledge is often built on stilts and has very little empirical or material reality.*

The sciences do access empirical and material reality, but they're willfully blind (at least in their public faces) to their own role in knowledge production.

*By which I mean--it is of course the case that 'gravity' as a concept is a system of observations, theories, and mathematical arguments which together form the thought-object of 'gravity.' So in that case 'gravity' is a social construct. But nobody, even the most perverse postmoderns, would tell you with a straight face that if they're holding an object and let it go, they don't expect it to fall to the ground every time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48580961)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: idiotic multi-colored piazza yarmulke

Yeah I read that one. I think that was the one where he gets into “the violence of classification” although he doesn’t bring up specific examples like misclassification of antibiotics he would say classifying yeast and mushrooms and antibiotics as the same is a “form of epistemic violence” or whatever because its not “truth unrevealed” as the Greeks originally envisioned it but “truth through binary categories”.

Yeah Foucault is good at picking apart stuff like that like zoological taxonomy or modern “mental disorder” classifications, although he can come across as a little too French and poetic but I have to admit the tone actually gets addictive after a while and it has a flamey provocateur quality to it that makes it fun to use on people.

I feel like gravity is different because it isn’t as culturally constructed as classification systems. It seems more survival constructed like it’s useful to understand how objects fall at earth scale simply for our survival. The part that gets flamey is when scientists dont continue to ask philosphical questions to expand our understanding of it. Like at the planetary scale they will say space time curvature causes planetary orbits but it’s like wait — but how? And why? What even makes the objects attracted to begin with that causes them to fall around each other through warped space and time?

It doesn’t explain the following :

Why do massive objects warp spacetime in the first place? GR just assumes mass-energy does this without explaining why it must.

Why do objects naturally “fall” along geodesics? Why should curvature translate into motion?

How does mass “communicate” its presence to spacetime? Does spacetime inherently “know” to warp around mass? There’s no intermediary mechanism akin to the electromagnetic field in Maxwell’s equations.

GR assumes that mass-energy has an intrinsic property: it deforms spacetime. This is just a postulate. There’s no explanation of why mass-energy does this—Einstein just starts there.

Curvature changes the “shape” of spacetime, meaning that the straightest possible path (geodesic) for an object in curved spacetime isn’t the same as it would be in flat spacetime.

But GR doesn’t explain why objects must follow these geodesics, other than saying, “This is how spacetime works.”

Even Newton at least describes Gravity as a force that pulls objects together but that seems to be dropped in GR entirely. There is no F in the Einstein equations but Scientists still call it a force anyway not even knowing if that’s what it is.

To me these problems aren’t even about Gravity being a construct they are straight up unsolved problems in philosphy of physics that get ignored now for being “too abstract”.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48581030)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Charismatic stag film rigpig

I'm waiting for the second edition of this to read:

https://www.amazon.com/Ideology-Tyranny-Postmodern-Corruption-Political/dp/0230114946

it's coming out soon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48581090)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Mind-boggling institution dragon

Interesting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48581290)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: burgundy dead boistinker

read this whole thread thinking you were discussing taxidermy and it still works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48581085)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: impressive bearded brunch

originally read this as Taxidermy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668485&forum_id=2#48581194)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: comical flirting therapy

dumb thread

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