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CA Supreme Court takes 21 Years to litigate & decide DP case

Guyz, check out the docket on this. CSC case is docketed ...
slate massive institution persian
  07/07/25
Hoping someone finds this interesting, as this used to be a ...
slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25
what's interesting about jews wasting taxpayer money to drag...
brass ticket booth
  07/08/25
Pumo, this is RFK, Jr. the United States Secretary for Healt...
House-broken point
  07/08/25
we would like to hear more about cheryl. tyia.
razzle costumed corn cake boistinker
  07/08/25
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slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25
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haunting 180 office candlestick maker
  07/08/25
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Black Slimy Boiling Water
  07/08/25
every participant in that litigation wants endless delay and...
odious opaque stead
  07/08/25
The AG and judges get paid either way. I'm sure the AG would...
slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25
all true. imagine having to read some massive transcripts a...
odious opaque stead
  07/08/25
Yep, the AG and judicial clerks must want to blow their brai...
slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25
many courts have special clerks who do nothing but DP. it's ...
odious opaque stead
  07/08/25
Yikes, that's awful. The funny thing is that a state DP a...
slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25
Double Penetration cases are highly complex
stirring underhanded double fault field
  07/08/25
He's already in jail for life, then gets death. Is that doub...
slate massive institution persian
  07/08/25


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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:40 PM
Author: slate massive institution persian

Guyz, check out the docket on this.

CSC case is docketed in 2004. counsel appointed in 2008.

in april 2013, after 21 extension requests, defense counsel files a brief that's "150,082 words; 532 pp"

in oct 2013, the AG files a brief that's "89,205 words; 306 pp."

in dec 2015, after 6 extension requests, defense counsel files a reply brief that's "49,584 words; 193 pp"

in july 2024, defense counsel files a supplemental brief that's "15, 642 words; 61 pp"

in feb 2025, the AG files a response to the supp brief that's "11, 365 words; 46 pp."

in march 2025, defense files a supp reply brief that's "15,490 words; 62 pp."

in march 2025, OA is held.

in june 2025, the court issues a 217 page opinion affirming the death sentence

https://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=1855810&doc_no=S124131&request_token=NiIwLSEnTkw4WzBRSCFdVE1JQFQ0UDxfISNeQzlTICAgCg%3D%3D

note the defendant is already serving life, and picked up a death penalty murder for killing a cell mate. no chance the guy actually ever gets the DP. he's already serving life.

and now this is just the start of the DP litigation. we haven't got to habeas stuff. this is just his direct state appeal. there will be decades more of this bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49081067)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: slate massive institution persian

Hoping someone finds this interesting, as this used to be a law boart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082143)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: brass ticket booth

what's interesting about jews wasting taxpayer money to drag out worthless criminal lives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082145)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: House-broken point

Pumo, this is RFK, Jr. the United States Secretary for Health and Human Services. The HHS Department is monitoring this case, and poast, with great interest.

As my uncle, President John F. Kennedy, said, we need people like you to bring important happenings like this to the publics attnetion. And this bort, and your poast, embodies that.

God bless you, God bless this bort, and God bless these United States.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082164)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: razzle costumed corn cake boistinker

we would like to hear more about cheryl. tyia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082198)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: slate massive institution persian



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Date: July 8th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: haunting 180 office candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082827)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: Black Slimy Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49083602)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: odious opaque stead

every participant in that litigation wants endless delay and they all got what they wanted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082150)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: slate massive institution persian

The AG and judges get paid either way. I'm sure the AG would rather not have to write a 200 page brief and I'm sure some poor judicial clerk would rather not have to write a 215 page opinion, and both would rather be working on other crap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082160)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: odious opaque stead

all true.

imagine having to read some massive transcripts and write a 200 page motion dealing with the DP in a state that has officially suspended the DP. you'd just stare at the binders briefly each morning and then turn to some project that matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082177)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: slate massive institution persian

Yep, the AG and judicial clerks must want to blow their brains out. Some judicial clerk probably had to spend months just on this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082243)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: odious opaque stead

many courts have special clerks who do nothing but DP. it's not just second class work, it's bottom of the barrel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082263)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: slate massive institution persian

Yikes, that's awful.

The funny thing is that a state DP appeal isn't even about death penalty issue. It's just about raising every possible borderline-frivolous garbage trial issue anyone can think of. If you read that 215 page opinion, it's just a bunch of general nonsense about jury instructional issues, evidentiary issues, etc. Much of it is not even about the death phase.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082470)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 12:23 PM
Author: stirring underhanded double fault field

Double Penetration cases are highly complex

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49082512)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: slate massive institution persian

He's already in jail for life, then gets death. Is that double penetration?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2#49083491)