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Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
How much did you make last year?
offensive drunken nursing home coffee pot
  05/29/12
A little more than $200 K. However, some of that was doing ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
does it bother you that you profit from misery?
marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy
  05/29/12
Yes. Hypothetically speaking, imagine if you had an adult...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
cot damn how do you not even killself at all?
marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy
  05/29/12
I recently had a client commit suicide too.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
christ
marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy
  05/29/12
wow. so happy I do biglaw when I think of this misery. Do yo...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/29/12
Poli Sci
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
So it's a win-win (TMF)
Arousing crimson piazza national security agency
  05/30/12
Least significant possession you witnessed a couple fight ov...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
There was a tacky mug set (couldn't have been more than $10 ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
lol mugs.
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
Strangest reason for a divorce? Worst story of infidelity? ...
Indecent diverse voyeur hell
  05/29/12
1. They're actually pretty common, but I find emotional neg...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
How strongly do you feel about divorce yourself? If you were...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
I would not get married. Most of the benefits can be found ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
I think this is fair. While I think it's not a terrible i...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
I don't plan to have children, but as a man, I'd take zero c...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
Would an unmarried couple just seek mediation in the event o...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
If the couple had children, sure. You'd probably want some ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
Have you ever had a case that was so amicable it creeped you...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
Not really. It's usually a relief when people can be civil ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
In cases where there is domestic violence, does that definit...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
No. There's a high probability, but there can be exceptions...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
What percent of cases you've worked on have involved private...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
Maybe 5%. I know some firms use these tactics more aggressi...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
Did you like the movie Intolerable Cruelty?
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
Never watched it.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
George Clooney = smarmy divorce attorney with epic, patented...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
lol I might have to see that.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
Are your friends allowed to retain your business or is that ...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/29/12
It depends. In most cases, I'd advise against it, especiall...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
I feel differently from my divorce. I feel there is no prote...
Ruby faggotry
  05/30/12
Right, I'm sure many people feel better after a divorce, for...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Are you comfortable dating/long-term relationshipping with a...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
I don't have a problem with very liberal women and have date...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
That's comforting. Some dudes are total douches about stuff ...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Oh, I agree with you about the mutual accountability, but my...
Ruby faggotry
  05/30/12
how much did you fuck your ex husband over for?
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/30/12
How's the money?
Vigorous Hall
  05/29/12
Very good. No complaints on that front.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
How many years in? Can you give us a sense for income range...
Vigorous Hall
  05/29/12
About 8 years. I make a little over $200 K, but that's not ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
What is the likelihood I will win a motion for modification ...
Overrated Fanboi
  05/29/12
I can't say. You'd need to consult your own attorney for th...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
lol, fucked up.
180 wagecucks digit ratio
  12/26/12
What's the retainer on a very simple divorce (amicable and w...
passionate jew
  05/29/12
I know you're going to hate this answer, but it depends. Fo...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
how'd you get started doing divorces? how big is your firm?
passionate jew
  05/29/12
Couldn't hack it in biglaw. I met up with the lawyer who or...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
homeraiser bitches with no money get alpha divorce lawyers p...
geriatric mediation
  05/29/12
We can refer him somewhere else if the retainer's too much.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
how did you get into divorce law? Is it "sexy"? H...
galvanic crusty casino
  05/29/12
1. I knew one of the lawyers very well. 2. No. It can be...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
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boyish temple
  05/29/12
It does happen, but not very often.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/29/12
What state do you practice in? How. Many partners in your pr...
dashing stead sneaky criminal
  05/29/12
"I like family/divorce law...." lol law student...
excitant site french chef
  05/29/12
cr
Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask
  05/29/12
Not a law student, actually. I really am just that fucking w...
dashing stead sneaky criminal
  05/29/12
nobody who has practiced or knows shit about 'family law' pr...
excitant site french chef
  05/29/12
Well I like it. I think it could get real old fast, but I th...
dashing stead sneaky criminal
  05/29/12
yfwgi
disturbing vivacious stage gunner
  05/29/12
Nope
dashing stead sneaky criminal
  05/30/12
1. Midwest 2. Three partners, four associates 3. No ...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
will most judges toss even consideration of a prenup if kids...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/29/12
can't waive child support in prenup
Curious legend
  05/29/12
worst child support payment you've seen ordered with respect...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/30/12
Client who lost his job and was jailed for failure to suppor...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
How the fuck is he supposed to provide support if he is unem...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/30/12
How much do you have to owe before you're jailed? Is that de...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Judge's discretion. It can sometimes be a few hundred dolla...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
I once worked with a woman whose ex owed her child support b...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Can't say without seeing the support order (sometimes paymen...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
It really confuses me that dudes go around making babies lik...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Some men don't anticipate a divorce. Some think with the wr...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
What do you mean by "consideration" of the prenup?...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
so they actually still honor them to the extent possible? I'...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/30/12
It depends on the judge. Some will take a substantially fai...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Thoughts on "covenant marriage"?
Puce dysfunction
  05/29/12
I'm cynical about this. Seems like using Scotch tape to rep...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
What's best way to get clients? Is it easy to get clients as...
Curious legend
  05/29/12
not op but the law is basically reasonableness.
Abusive Rehab
  05/29/12
1. We generally get ours through referrals from other lawyer...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
how do you obtain service when 1 party disappears?
Abusive Rehab
  05/29/12
Call the sheriff or obtain an order to serve by publication.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
A judge that I clerked for primarily did family law. I co...
disturbing vivacious stage gunner
  05/29/12
Cr family law grinds on you. I really think it I damn near i...
vibrant gas station
  05/30/12
...
Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask
  05/30/12
please please please post your strategy and execution once y...
Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig
  05/30/12
...
Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask
  05/30/12
I know quite a few divorce lawyers who enjoy being rude, hor...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Good luck on the disbarment. Unless you can show she stole m...
disturbing vivacious stage gunner
  05/30/12
Damn you for creating one of those rare XO threads that actu...
Coral stock car
  05/30/12
do u think if a 10/10 russian mail order bride decides to di...
Claret Brunch
  05/30/12
He can try.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
hopefully he will get his rating up to national master level...
Arousing crimson piazza national security agency
  05/30/12
Are you in a major metro area?
odious house-broken pozpig
  05/30/12
Large city, yeah.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
What's the standard for Pendente Lite support?
Maize well-lubricated office azn
  05/30/12
It depends (new favorite phrase), but most come down to main...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Do you go out to lunch every day?
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Most of the time I eat at the office.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Do you have lunch delivered/catered in? I feel like lawyers ...
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Sometimes. I eat a lot of Chinese takeout when stressed.
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12
Chinese food = brain-eater.
spectacular turdskin trust fund
  05/30/12
Thoughts on wgwag?
Slimy Theater Stage Quadroon
  05/30/12
I had the WG in a WGWAG seeking divorce once. First thought...
Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center
  05/30/12


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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786160)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: offensive drunken nursing home coffee pot

How much did you make last year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790032)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:03 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

A little more than $200 K. However, some of that was doing estate planning as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791976)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy

does it bother you that you profit from misery?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786182)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:47 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Yes.

Hypothetically speaking, imagine if you had an adulterous client who accused her ex of child abuse. You, of course, run the ex through the wringer. He protests innocence, but the judge sides with you and denies visitation.

A few years later, you find out through a colleague in the public defender's office that your client's boyfriend has been sexually abusing the children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786227)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:48 AM
Author: marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy

cot damn

how do you not even killself at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786232)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:51 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I recently had a client commit suicide too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786263)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: marvelous wine orchestra pit therapy

christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786297)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

wow. so happy I do biglaw when I think of this misery. Do you have a degree in psych as well?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789796)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Poli Sci

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792246)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:37 AM
Author: Arousing crimson piazza national security agency

So it's a win-win (TMF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792124)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:42 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Least significant possession you witnessed a couple fight over?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786188)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

There was a tacky mug set (couldn't have been more than $10 total). Wife wanted the complete set, the husband would only give her one of the six.

There was also a fight over a broken Walkman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786256)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

lol mugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786282)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Indecent diverse voyeur hell

Strangest reason for a divorce?

Worst story of infidelity?

Any completely amicable divorces where spouses remained friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786257)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:02 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

1. They're actually pretty common, but I find emotional neglect and emotional battery complaints baffling. I can still do a pretty good job on these, but typically I get a colleague to look over my stuff first because it's hard for me to sympathize. If you're just asking about outright weirdness, we might have had a client who was getting gaslighted by her spouse. He would hide shit around the house and tell her she was going crazy. She caught him doing it on camera.

2. I mentioned one already: adulterous woman accused her husband of child abuse, left him for a pedophile. Another case involved the judge having an affair with one of the parties (did not come out until after the divorce settlement).

3. Sometimes, though usually they don't retain lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786330)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

How strongly do you feel about divorce yourself? If you were to divorce, are there certain things you'd be sure you tried first to ensure it was the best decision?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786347)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:16 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I would not get married. Most of the benefits can be found in a long-term relationship and marriage affords very few legal protections, especially for men (it's no picnic for women either). You're very much at the whim of the system. A lot of clients don't seem to understand how no-fault or pre-nups work.

That said, I'd be sure to initiate. Frankly, by the time either side is even threatening divorce, the marriage has deteriorated beyond repair. In my experience, judges don't really seem to reward good-faith efforts by one spouse to "fix" the marriage. It's best to make a clean break, but keep it amicable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786448)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:25 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

I think this is fair.

While I think it's not a terrible idea to "work through things," I do agree that once divorce is on the table, either party has checked out.

I also don't think people should feel pressure to marry unless they plan to have children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786496)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:28 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I don't plan to have children, but as a man, I'd take zero comfort in the protections marriage affords with regard to children.

Child custody disputes are the nastiest by far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786510)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:32 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Would an unmarried couple just seek mediation in the event of a "break-up"? What would be the proceedings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786528)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:39 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

If the couple had children, sure. You'd probably want some formal agreement for visitation and child support.

The mediator usually offers general legal advice and tries to give both sides an understanding of what their options are. The goal is to work to an equitable outcome and avoid conflicts. You can still retain independent counsel (in fact, it's recommended).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786568)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:44 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Have you ever had a case that was so amicable it creeped you out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786607)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:51 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Not really. It's usually a relief when people can be civil to each other.

There was one case when I was just starting out, but I wouldn't really count it as amicable. We had a conference where our client was going along with everything her ex said, including things she had clearly established earlier were "non-negotiable." I cut the meeting short, did a little digging, and found a domestic violence record (she had not mentioned it, but it was still carelessness on my part). Filed a restraining order and negotiated directly with his attorney from then on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786647)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

In cases where there is domestic violence, does that definitely mean 100% custody for the non-abusive party?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786698)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:09 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

No. There's a high probability, but there can be exceptions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786722)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

What percent of cases you've worked on have involved private investigation from one of the parties to bust the other?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786734)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Maybe 5%. I know some firms use these tactics more aggressively. Ours doesn't. People overestimate how much family court judges want to hear about infidelity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786752)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:15 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Did you like the movie Intolerable Cruelty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786757)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:17 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Never watched it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786761)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:17 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

George Clooney = smarmy divorce attorney with epic, patented prenup who gets pwned by his own prenup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786764)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:20 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

lol I might have to see that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786774)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:21 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Are your friends allowed to retain your business or is that a conflict of interest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786776)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:24 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

It depends. In most cases, I'd advise against it, especially since it's likely I know the spouse as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786789)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:50 AM
Author: Ruby faggotry

I feel differently from my divorce. I feel there is no protection in marriage but there is in divorce. Meaning, there are rules & laws & accountability, and someone's finally looking at one's behavior & actions. If it wasn't for my lawyer, the mediators, the judge, even his lawyer, there'd be no stopping his craziness. There's no accountability in marriage, and even less in a living-together non-marriage. I felt vulnerable in my first marriage, but I felt protected and chaperoned in my divorce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791928)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Right, I'm sure many people feel better after a divorce, for the reasons you stated. It seems like you had very capable lawyers to guide you through the process. I do think the system is tilted towards women. My view on relationships also differs; I prefer a partnership where we're mutually accountable to each other. If not, I'll walk (much easier in a relationship vs. a marriage).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791999)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:12 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Are you comfortable dating/long-term relationshipping with a woman who also believes in the concept of abandoning marriage?

This will typically be a very liberal woman who likely has other behaviors that most men find unappealing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792004)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:20 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I don't have a problem with very liberal women and have dated a few. I'm not fond of women who approach relationships as a political exercise, whether or not I agree with their politics.

At the moment, I'm dating a nice girl who accepts my views on matrimony, but doesn't exactly agree with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792048)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:23 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

That's comforting. Some dudes are total douches about stuff like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792060)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:57 PM
Author: Ruby faggotry

Oh, I agree with you about the mutual accountability, but my first husband would disagree. Second marriage is divine, however... sometimes things work out!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795534)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:11 AM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

how much did you fuck your ex husband over for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792003)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: Vigorous Hall

How's the money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786506)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:31 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Very good. No complaints on that front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786527)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: Vigorous Hall

How many years in? Can you give us a sense for income range?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786729)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:16 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

About 8 years. I make a little over $200 K, but that's not entirely on divorce cases/family law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786760)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:33 PM
Author: Overrated Fanboi

What is the likelihood I will win a motion for modification of spousal support if I lose my biglaw job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786535)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:40 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I can't say. You'd need to consult your own attorney for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786575)



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Date: December 26th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: 180 wagecucks digit ratio

lol, fucked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#22317090)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:34 PM
Author: passionate jew

What's the retainer on a very simple divorce (amicable and without substantial assets to divy up)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786542)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:42 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I know you're going to hate this answer, but it depends. For us, a typical fee on a typical amicable divorce might be around $600-700. But "typical" almost never happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786595)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:49 PM
Author: passionate jew

how'd you get started doing divorces? how big is your firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786635)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:02 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Couldn't hack it in biglaw. I met up with the lawyer who originally encouraged me to go to law school.

There are seven of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786688)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 12:50 PM
Author: geriatric mediation

homeraiser bitches with no money get alpha divorce lawyers paid for with their husbands' money...how do you get that initial retainer BEFORE the judge awards temp alimony? you tell the hoe to raid his 401k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786643)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:07 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

We can refer him somewhere else if the retainer's too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786713)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: galvanic crusty casino

how did you get into divorce law? Is it "sexy"? How would you recommend someone who is interested in it/and is a sociopath to get there from a typical corporate biglaw job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786701)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:10 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

1. I knew one of the lawyers very well.

2. No. It can be exhausting at times and even the amicable divorces are sad.

3. Send a resume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786736)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:05 PM
Author: boyish temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786704)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 1:11 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

It does happen, but not very often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20786744)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:01 PM
Author: dashing stead sneaky criminal

What state do you practice in? How. Many partners in your practice? Are a solo practitioner? Are you happy?

I like family/divorce law....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789240)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: excitant site french chef

"I like family/divorce law...."

lol law student. family law is the most miserable and horrible shit out there. high end divorce stuff is probably the only thing that's remotely tolerable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789543)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789550)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: dashing stead sneaky criminal

Not a law student, actually. I really am just that fucking weird...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789658)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: excitant site french chef

nobody who has practiced or knows shit about 'family law' proclaims to like it. it is a miserable hellish shitlaw box that some idealists get trapped in and can't escape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789712)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: dashing stead sneaky criminal

Well I like it. I think it could get real old fast, but I think it's pretty manageable ... Conceptually easy and, believe it or not, tolerable. I see why so many abhor it, but I really don't mind it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789845)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: disturbing vivacious stage gunner

yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790268)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 7:53 AM
Author: dashing stead sneaky criminal

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791578)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:13 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

1. Midwest

2. Three partners, four associates

3. No

4. Hard to say. In general, I think so. Lately it's been rough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792007)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:26 PM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

will most judges toss even consideration of a prenup if kids are involved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20789864)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: Curious legend

can't waive child support in prenup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790029)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:54 AM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

worst child support payment you've seen ordered with respect to a guy's income?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791941)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:24 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Client who lost his job and was jailed for failure to support. This happens pretty often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792061)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

How the fuck is he supposed to provide support if he is unemployed, let alone jailed?

This is retarded beyond all belief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792091)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

How much do you have to owe before you're jailed? Is that determined by state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792097)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:44 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Judge's discretion. It can sometimes be a few hundred dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792159)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:48 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

I once worked with a woman whose ex owed her child support but he also had like four other kids. Because he owes her and her kid is the first of his five, she gets first dibs on his tax returns and wages are garnished until the full amount is paid out.

I've never asked, but once her kid is 18, does that likely end or will she continue to get paid until the amount he owes is zero?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792181)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:54 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Can't say without seeing the support order (sometimes payments continue past 18 if the child goes to college, for example). In most cases, it stops unless she petitions the court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792224)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

It really confuses me that dudes go around making babies like it's NBD. They will be slaves to these children regardless of their role as an active parent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792244)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Some men don't anticipate a divorce. Some think with the wrong head. Some are just really sentimental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792261)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:23 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

What do you mean by "consideration" of the prenup? Child support and custody can't be settled by prenup, so there will be substantial modifications made, even if the judge uses it as a starting point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792057)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:29 AM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

so they actually still honor them to the extent possible? I've heard that in some places they completely ignore the prenup if kids are involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792086)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:46 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

It depends on the judge. Some will take a substantially fair pre-nup in an otherwise amicable divorce as a starting point for deciding what's fair. The terms will always be adjusted if there are kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792171)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: Puce dysfunction

Thoughts on "covenant marriage"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790034)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I'm cynical about this. Seems like using Scotch tape to repair a torpedo hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792066)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: Curious legend

What's best way to get clients? Is it easy to get clients as solo? Is the law easy to learn (relatively)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790041)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Abusive Rehab

not op but the law is basically reasonableness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790047)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:36 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

1. We generally get ours through referrals from other lawyers. For example, a lawyer who did estate planning for the couple cannot represent either party in a divorce. We may also get referrals from mediators. Other firms rely on higher volume, so they advertise in the yellow pages. You have a few who have the "battle axe" reputation; most of their business comes via word-of-mouth.

2. I don't know, since I've never practiced solo.

3. The law is pretty basic, but family courts run on equity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792116)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: Abusive Rehab

how do you obtain service when 1 party disappears?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790043)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Call the sheriff or obtain an order to serve by publication.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792128)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: disturbing vivacious stage gunner

A judge that I clerked for primarily did family law.

I could not do your job at all.

Family law has to be the most miserable field out there.

Even with Criminal Law you just show up for a few court appearances and the have the Def. plead to a good deal from the Prosecutor.

But Family Law?

FUCK that, you've gotta deal with dumbasses who are fighting over pots and pans.

I hope you get the retainer UP FRONT before you file anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20790278)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 7:57 AM
Author: vibrant gas station

Cr family law grinds on you. I really think it I damn near impossible for a person to practice exclusively family law for their entire career and for it not to have serious psychological effects on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791580)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:17 AM
Author: Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791847)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:53 AM
Author: Awkward obsidian son of senegal codepig

please please please post your strategy and execution once you get this bitch.

This sounds like the worst part of this. Not the human misery, but the horrid toilet lawyers you must have to work with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791940)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 1:00 PM
Author: Cordovan Alpha Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792582)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:44 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I know quite a few divorce lawyers who enjoy being rude, horrible people. You have a perfect storm of vindictive clients and relatively flexible rules.

But it sounds pretty bad if you're considering reporting her to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795472)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 8:56 PM
Author: disturbing vivacious stage gunner

Good luck on the disbarment. Unless you can show she stole money from a client, the Star Bar won't do shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20795528)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: Coral stock car

Damn you for creating one of those rare XO threads that actually adds value to the site. The hope of similar threads will keep me coming back for months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791914)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 10:50 AM
Author: Claret Brunch

do u think if a 10/10 russian mail order bride decides to divorce her husband and hires u, he will kill u in a driveby or just make u disappear?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20791930)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

He can try.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792134)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: Arousing crimson piazza national security agency

hopefully he will get his rating up to national master level and then all the local russian thugs will be made aware and refuse to touch him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792215)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:31 AM
Author: odious house-broken pozpig

Are you in a major metro area?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792101)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:40 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Large city, yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792139)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:45 AM
Author: Maize well-lubricated office azn

What's the standard for Pendente Lite support?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792168)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

It depends (new favorite phrase), but most come down to maintaining standard of living during divorce proceedings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792203)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:03 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Do you go out to lunch every day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792278)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:07 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Most of the time I eat at the office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792286)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:10 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Do you have lunch delivered/catered in? I feel like lawyers don't tend to bring food from home.

Well, unless they're married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792305)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:13 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

Sometimes. I eat a lot of Chinese takeout when stressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792330)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: spectacular turdskin trust fund

Chinese food = brain-eater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792377)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:22 PM
Author: Slimy Theater Stage Quadroon

Thoughts on wgwag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792371)



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Date: May 30th, 2012 12:27 PM
Author: Orange Hairless Personal Credit Line Center

I had the WG in a WGWAG seeking divorce once. First thought was to tell her she couldn't.

Seen a few when we do estate planning and it still makes me laugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1958994&forum_id=2#20792411)