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Film MFEs: Why Had Best Director Never Won For Editing?

Do famous directors not typically edit?
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Short answer is unions. Even on indie films it’s basi...
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if I were a director I would insist on being in control of t...
Oh, you travel?
  03/03/25
Most directors pretty much control the process but there's a...
Coach McGirk
  03/03/25
does the director always have control over the editor? or on...
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The default is that the Director can fight for something he ...
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what about when the director is a producer? most of these bi...
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The studio will “give notes” to anyone. How muc...
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You ever Curate?
Oh, You Travel?
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Cr
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Cuaron won both in 2014 and Cameron did for Titanic Scree...
N904PD
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oh was it screenplay and editing that's never happened befor...
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Directing + Screenplay credits is a pretty common combo
Coach McGirk
  03/03/25
there are also two two screenwriting awards so relatively ea...
N904PD
  03/03/25
why isn't original screenplay considered way more prestigiou...
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Directors often film scenes out of sequence in time place an...
Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv
  03/03/25
scenes are filmed out of sequence for logistical reasons, ri...
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The artistry of Nolan in Oppenheimer is matched by the techn...
Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv
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Screenplay doesn't specify every single cut or timestamp ...
cowgolf
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Editing requires immense technical proficiency and time spen...
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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:04 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


Do famous directors not typically edit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709767)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:22 AM
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Short answer is unions. Even on indie films it’s basically bad form beyond a micro budget and tends to indicate that your movie is shit and people don’t want to work on it. Someone like Robert Rodriguez gets away with it because he was originally shooting effectively student films on a $20k budget.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709822)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

if I were a director I would insist on being in control of the editing afaik. most Films are basically made in Editing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709837)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Coach McGirk

Most directors pretty much control the process but there's always an editor along with them. Like most other aspects of filmmaking, it's a collaborative process. Scorcese, for example, is in control of all aspects of his films but has used the same editor for everything he's ever done and thinks she's a genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709875)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


does the director always have control over the editor? or only famous directors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709896)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


The default is that the Director can fight for something he really wants, but won’t control unless he’s a big name. This can all become actual terms in the director’s contract. But the entire existence of “Director’s Cuts” means that studios can overrule Directors most of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709931)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


what about when the director is a producer? most of these big name directors get producer credits. do they still fight with the studios?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709998)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:39 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


The studio will “give notes” to anyone. How much a director and a studio butt heads likely depends 15 different variables, everything from the specific personalities to the amount of financial stress the studio is currently feeling v wanting to maintain relationships and/or chase prestige awards, is the studio just distributing or do they have more stake in it as a production, the stars and their allegiances to either, how marketable the movie is anyway (eg is it a biopic or a bestselling novel with a built in audience or an original screenplay by a no name writer that the director insisted on making as his third installment of a three picture deal), etc, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710532)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Oh, You Travel? ( )

You ever Curate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710761)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48709925)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: N904PD

Cuaron won both in 2014 and Cameron did for Titanic

Screenplay and editing seems unique tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710026)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


oh was it screenplay and editing that's never happened before?

how many writers even direct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710046)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:45 PM
Author: Coach McGirk

Directing + Screenplay credits is a pretty common combo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710106)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: N904PD

there are also two two screenwriting awards so relatively easier to win one

curaon has been nominated 3x for screenwriting but hasn't won.

he has nabbed a cinematography oscar but never best picture despite 2x director - all over the place!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710251)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


why isn't original screenplay considered way more prestigious than adapted screenplay? they're both considered equal in terms of the big 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710263)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv


Directors often film scenes out of sequence in time place and action. It’s up to the editor to cut and paste the best film narrative sequence for the Final Cut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710547)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


scenes are filmed out of sequence for logistical reasons, right?

isn't the "normal" sequence pretty obvious and what's called for in the script... unless it's some weird chris nolan shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710556)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv


The artistry of Nolan in Oppenheimer is matched by the technical expertise of the editor in the rather perfect story frame of last years Oscar winner. It takes 2 skill sets, to achieve success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710571)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: cowgolf

Screenplay doesn't specify every single cut or timestamp

Check out this scene from JFK "back and to the left" with clips from multiple scenes filmed out of order and multiple audio tracks layered together

If you assume the screenplay or director never instructed edits to this granular level of detail, then you can appreciate how masterful editing made the film much better

https://youtu.be/OSzszCTWFwg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710628)



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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: cowgolf

Editing requires immense technical proficiency and time spent in post-production

Most Hollywood directors are collecting a paycheck and will bounce to their next project one day after shooting wraps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688241&forum_id=2#48710560)