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3L, just discovered the beauty of UNCURVED SEMINARS
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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:54 PM Author: rusted dilemma I screwed up 2L year. I took only classes that were curved and more difficult, thinking:
these classes are more useful and interesting don't care to listen to dipshits opine on broad policy matters hate writing papers will just work hard and get good grades anyway
Got bad grades 2L. Still got a job so it's ok, but now as a 3L I'm taking seminars and they are like a fucking dream compared to real classes. These are going to be much easier, many profs give all As, and I don't actually mind all the share-your-thoughts stuff after all. |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Ruddy Pit Doctorate pansy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15991987) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:12 AM Author: rusted dilemma fair enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992166) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:02 AM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage What kind of grades did you get? They must not have been that bad if you still landed a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993710) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM Author: rusted dilemma 2L grades were pretty bad man. But they don't really matter. 1L and then your summer work is what matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994836) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:19 PM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage What is pretty bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994849) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 PM Author: rusted dilemma Maybe around bottom 20-30% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994880) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:24 PM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage WTF? Did you study at all? Sounds more like you just didn't give a fuck than anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994892) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:29 PM Author: rusted dilemma Yeah I didn't study much. But I didn't blow it off either.
The problem was that all my classes were difficult and curved, and the other people in them were all taking only 1 or 2 serious classes, allowing them to pwn. |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:03 PM Author: racy therapy Sounds like you are making excuses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003053) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:04 PM Author: rusted dilemma Sure, I guess. The point is I should have taken seminars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003063) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: Hairraiser set round eye Be careful! Not all seminars are easy As. I went to a T10, and some of the seminar profs did not give easy As (although the majority did). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003328) |
Date: September 7th, 2010 11:58 PM Author: brilliant area Were your 2L grades significantly worse than your 1L grades? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992029) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:11 AM Author: rusted dilemma yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992161) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:00 AM Author: Disrespectful feces liquid oxygen So there was this guy in my lawschool class. He disappeared after 1l year. Ran into him as a 3l. Asked him what happened. He said his grades sucked first year so he took nothing but seminars for the next two years and was pretty much making straight As (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992073) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:02 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Ruddy Pit Doctorate you've posted this before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992106) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:12 AM Author: Cerise locale boistinker it bears repeating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993673) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM Author: high-end concupiscible preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992289) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM Author: Contagious jade library Watchout for seminars taught by new profs or lecturers, who might be looking to reward true believers. Old profs who just teach seminars because they don't give a shit are awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992290) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 AM Author: cerebral dun crackhouse twinkling uncleanness cr try to take seminars with olds who don't care anymore. the fkn young profs actually make u work for the A (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992560) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:20 PM Author: rusted dilemma good point. my profs seem to be very cool with different viewpoints and more interested in just having a nice discussion than imparting any serious rigor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994853) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM Author: Flickering nudist lay damn my school :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992297) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 AM Author: Mahogany rebellious space people who are hurt except they're not worth that many credits. i'd prefer to take one 4 credit lecture class instead of two 2 credit seminars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992589) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:06 AM Author: hyperventilating bateful potus principal's office you have to do a balance. 2 2 credit classes per semester is probably the right amount. Otherwise you'd need to take like 6 or 7 classes which isn't good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993671) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:14 AM Author: Cerise locale boistinker old profs don't give a fuck about attendance faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993674) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: Mahogany rebellious space people who are hurt Even that's a lot. Too much reading, especially since you're usually expected to talk in a small seminar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994903) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:30 PM Author: Boyish Insecure Wagecucks oh come now. you guys really can't figure out how to game it?
Just read a few pages of the reading and be sure to jump in with that info during class... then go back to web surf mode. Mission accomplished.
Last semester I took 4 seminars. 4 papers was rough at the end, but so much easier than 4 exams. Got ridiculously good grades. |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:31 PM Author: rusted dilemma So far it seems like many seminars have light reading, and you don't even need to do the reading to contribute to the discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994959) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:32 PM Author: Boyish Insecure Wagecucks Also true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994977) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:00 AM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage After 1L classes, there's no set grade distribution at my school.
Btw, even if your school does curve upper class exams, isn't the curve a B+? |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:22 PM Author: rusted dilemma This is not how it works at my school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994871) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:15 PM Author: Boyish Insecure Wagecucks 1L: under median 3L: Stone
Yeah, seminars are the way to go. |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM Author: khaki hell Yeah, I wish I had discovered seminars, too. I am always a sucker for those "real" classes where you supposedly learn something. My grades 2L year sucked anyway, and I didn't get a SA, so I figure at this point I'm not getting a law job anyway, so it doesn't matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994838) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:34 PM Author: Aquamarine Temple Puppy i fucking HATE seminars.... having to actually participate in these terrible bullshit classes is torture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995007) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: brilliant area I tried this strategy out and ended up in a tightly curved class where 40% of the students were on law review. That ended up being my worst grade of 2L. I'm not going to risk that again. I'm sticking to core classes where I know how to pwn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995930) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage Seminars aren't curved generally. What school do you attend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996035) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:50 PM Author: brilliant area It wasn't a mandatory curve. The prof. was just hardcore about grading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996042) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:51 PM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage What grade did you get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996048) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: brilliant area B+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996051) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:53 PM Author: Blathering Factory Reset Button Theater Stage LOL, yea bro, that's just terrible! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996056) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: brilliant area For a non-core upper level class, it really is. That's the sort of grade I'd get if I took a core class, skipped 100% of the classes, and studied for 5 hours the night before the final. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996077) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: Cobalt half-breed heaven Reality! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996124) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:11 PM Author: brilliant area You're right. Getting median grades during 2L/3L is back breaking work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996193) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:59 AM Author: Fear-inspiring haunted graveyard hahaha youre so full of yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002696) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:50 AM Author: brilliant area My post was hyperbolic, obviously, but it's not much of an exaggeration. As long as you don't seriously fuck something up on an exam, you're pretty much guaranteed at least a B+. This is especially true during 2L/3L when 1/3 or more of the class has checked out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002966) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM Author: rusted dilemma Not ITE man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003114) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:24 PM Author: brilliant area Slacking is probably a function of placement ITE. My school is doing okay, so there's still a decent number of students who shoot for a gentleman's B. I imagine there's more competition elsewhere, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003154) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:51 AM Author: red jap gunner at our school (at T25), the upper-class seminars are curved B+/A-. if there are realy very few people in a seminar (like 5), then the curve might be higher. nevertheless, upper class exam classes also have noticeably higher curves. so a lot of us do not really go for seminars because they involve much more work. |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:52 AM Author: azure abode elastic band So a bunch of unemployed people with shitlaw 1L grades who couldn't get jerbs are now "gaming" the system by taking even more worthless crap classes that will further disable their ability to find employment, and given their grades probably mean they'll fail the bar when they can't figure out evidence or agency?
My how XO has fallen. |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:55 AM Author: red jap gunner to a certain extent evidence is a far easier class than those worthless 'crap' class. evidence is not hard to figure out by yourself anyway. some poeple just dont like the curve. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003000) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM Author: azure abode elastic band fair but i'm mocking op's shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003014) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM Author: brilliant area Taking classes to prep for the bar is decidedly NOT prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003013) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:57 AM Author: azure abode elastic band If you have shit 1L grades, you've gotta fucking hussle. And they shouldn't be trolling XO giving advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003019) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM Author: rusted dilemma OP here, I HAVE a job. 1L grades were decent. I just sort of wish I hadn't crashed my 2L GPA by taking no seminars at all, unlike everyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003108) |
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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:16 PM Author: red jap gunner there's a seminar at our school. it was fully registered. then the prof sent out an email saying that we had to turn in a 3 page paper every week based on the readings. half of the class dropped out. a few people remained. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003129) |