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Go Back to School to Get Engineering Degree and Get Into IP?

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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
Check out the USPTO requirements. An MS doesn't automatical...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
*is TMF* *complains about ITE* *doesn't know anything abou...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
*is uvt* *experiences chronic NOWAG* *IS MAD*
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
Must you demonstrate your idiocy pretty much everywhere?
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
*is TMF* *calls someone much much smarter 'idiotic'* *feel...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
*is UVT* *is actually idiotic*
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
If I get brain damaged in a car accident I will still be sma...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
if the brain damage somehow made you 20 times smarter than u...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
My 13 year old nephew is significantly brighter (and more ma...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
your nephew must be a child prodigy or something then. Does ...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
No, but he would instantly recognize you for the virginal re...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Omg if you respond again you two will officially be the most...
light duck-like state
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
yea the engineering market is pretty shitty d00d, particular...
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
Pretty much everything has been hit hard. People will m...
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
Pretty much. Some of the health professions are still holdi...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
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Ultramarine stock car double fault
  09/06/10
- and got a sub 3.0 GPA
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
What makes you think the OP would do better? Keep in mind, ...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
lol uvt continually proves himself to be on another planet. ...
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
He really is an ape. But unfortunately, if you don't demons...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
i think anyone who has posted here frequently enough knows h...
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
I mean, you hated it then and now want to go back? I dunno,...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
Yeah, if you can get it for free then sure, but I really don...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
Actually, a sub 3.0 anywhere is really really shitty. I ...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Pre-ITE sub-3.0 engineering majors had no problems getting j...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
pre-ITE was obviously a joke. ITE is the NORM. It's the only...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
My GPA is actually quite high. Your reading comp just sucks...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
what? one of us can't read here, and it isn't me. I didn't e...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
"It's the only economy I know so I don't complain like ...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
yeah, but it's not about your GPA. lol@you.
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Look kid, I'm giving OP advice. You don't understand any of...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
your advice is generally terrible and exaggerates ITE to the...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Here's the thing - OP and I are law grads. We are in a very...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Why are there law grads on this very board that are still ma...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Because they didn't have something fuck them?
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Maybe that something was YOURSELF?
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Not really, no. But explaining how the legal market works t...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Yeah, I'm sure it's PURELY luck or whatever, and your terrib...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
I think my last post about covers it.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
*is TMF* *thinks he is INFALLIBLE* *anything bad that happ...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Holy shit, you have no fucking idea how the legal market wor...
curious topaz menage
  09/09/10
do you even understand what I wrote? I don't need to know th...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
"However, he also said before that he cannot sit for th...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
You could probably get an IT job, luls. You don't want to le...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
"You could probably get an IT job, luls" *yawn*...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
*blah blah blah deny deny deny throw in random insult blah b...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
*blah blah blah I'm a cubicle working with a false sense of ...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
lol, you would kill 10 babies to have a degree that contains...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&mc...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
Let's face it, I have a degree in EECS, I can easily score 1...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
what the fuck man its 5:31 can't you guys just go to slee...
Twinkling plaza
  09/09/10
LOLOLOL, I graduated from a T14 and am significantly less as...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
All I have to say is: U MAD? You are so easy to troll...
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
LOL, it is hilarious how invested in this you are. Nah, not...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
lol @ you bringing mothers into this. eweu argh mad, dawg.
violet disrespectful base
  09/09/10
vat
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
IT and CS are definitely not the same.
Pontificating Razzmatazz Hell
  09/09/10
omg why why why are you guys just railing at each other a...
Twinkling plaza
  09/09/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
Don't let this dude get to you. He is a clueless aspie virg...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/09/10
No, his advice is spot-on, and in any event, I don't know wh...
magical grizzly nursing home
  09/06/10
most places didn't even look at your grades unless it was an...
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/06/10
Nope, unfortunately, a lot of engineers are in trouble. Pau...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
TMF you are right on. IP law isn't doing great and may even...
Mint trip trump supporter police squad
  09/09/10
No. "Really great IP credentials" should be reserv...
Primrose site
  09/06/10
Ok, mine is CS. It isn't EE but still considered solid. An...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
He has a CS bachelor's that didn't require higher level math...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
I have better than that but ok.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
*is TMF* *not subtlely drops hints about his master's in In...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
LOL, if you knew my creds you would piss yourself.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Do you have a PHD in CS from a top 5 school? That's the only...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
You don't have a PhD in CS from a T5 school. When you do th...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Whereas a mediocre Masters in EE with uncertain grades is th...
light duck-like state
  09/06/10
His IP credentials are excellent.
light duck-like state
  09/06/10
what does that mean? he has a masters from a 10-14th ranked ...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
I'll let you wonder. Regardless, it is more impressive than...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Um, no. I haven't gone to grad school yet, and my undergrad ...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
"I haven't gone to grad school yet" I like how ...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
Yeah man, I'm sure your MS in Information Technology Entrepr...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
LOL, ok man.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
It's CS to you, because you think IT is CS.
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
*sigh* BE LESS ASPIE.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
I highly doubt that many 2Ls are "buried" in offer...
Mint trip trump supporter police squad
  09/09/10
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Ultramarine stock car double fault
  09/06/10
I don't know any unemployed engineers, and I know a lot of e...
Frum personal credit line
  09/09/10
What type of work does your company do? What programming lan...
Mint trip trump supporter police squad
  09/09/10
Don't listen to these unemployed and underemployed bitter fg...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ makes $60k/year and is a superstudyazn that ...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
I make more than that and Im fresh out of UG, u mad
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
Ok, $65k.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
I like how you keep lowballing how much a programmer in CA m...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
So spit it out then.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
No, I'm not tasteless like you are.
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
LOL, I like how you think implying that you make big money i...
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
It's not "big money" by any means. I just think it...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
You're not fooling anyone.
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
um what? You are deranged. I'm not claiming that I make anym...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
It looks to me like you need to find something you like, you...
Frum personal credit line
  09/09/10
The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real anal...
spruce round eye
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real anal...
spruce round eye
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real anal...
spruce round eye
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
It's not shtick. It's parodying purportedly serious advice ...
spruce round eye
  09/06/10
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Gay marvelous stead weed whacker
  09/06/10
yeah, because I'm obviously serious about it 100% of the tim...
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
well you're retarded about 98% of the time
Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage
  09/09/10
lulz
Misanthropic odious parlor community account
  09/06/10
tcr
violet disrespectful base
  09/06/10
For every nigger, there is a thread such that you are a fagg...
Talking sweet tailpipe
  09/06/10
Impossible to get hired without experience
Greedy corner
  09/06/10
Yes. Three-five years would probably be the best bet at find...
Mint trip trump supporter police squad
  09/09/10


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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:43 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976544)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:53 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Check out the USPTO requirements. An MS doesn't automatically qualify you like a Ugrad degree does. You'll need to qualify by number of credit hours. Download the app and check it out - you'll find that it isn't as simple as just getting a grad degree and taking the patent bar. You'll need the right combo of classes in the right amounts.

The other thing is that IP law is utterly fucked now. I have really great IP credentials and am scared shitless.

Finally, the engineering market has been shot to hell too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976588)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:55 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

*is TMF*

*complains about ITE*

*doesn't know anything about anything*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976599)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:56 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

*is uvt*

*experiences chronic NOWAG*

*IS MAD*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976606)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:00 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Must you demonstrate your idiocy pretty much everywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976624)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:03 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

*is TMF*

*calls someone much much smarter 'idiotic'*

*feels smug*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976639)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:04 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

*is UVT*

*is actually idiotic*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976645)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:09 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

If I get brain damaged in a car accident I will still be smarter than you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976667)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:12 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

if the brain damage somehow made you 20 times smarter than ur are now, mebbe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976681)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:15 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

My 13 year old nephew is significantly brighter (and more mature) than you are. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976686)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:16 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

your nephew must be a child prodigy or something then. Does he know to ignore anything you say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976689)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:18 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

No, but he would instantly recognize you for the virginal retard that you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976694)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:17 AM
Author: light duck-like state

Omg if you respond again you two will officially be the most immature people on this board. You will be more immature than ME.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976692)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:55 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976604)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:56 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

yea the engineering market is pretty shitty d00d, particularly at the entry level. It's been hit hard ITE. The truth is you will have a hard time with an engineering masters, no technical UG degree, and no experience.

-Someone who studied engineering in UG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976612)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:58 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976616)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:01 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

Pretty much everything has been hit hard.

People will mention a few hot sectors, but honestly i think the time you've heard about it the hiring has already been done. The Power industry, for example some will mention there's a demand. That's actually bullshit and they did all of their hiring '06-'08, then got rid of a lot during ITE (including me).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976630)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:03 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Pretty much. Some of the health professions are still holding on, but I have a close relative in med school and she's pretty worried right now. No one knows when their good times will come to an end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976640)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:19 AM
Author: Ultramarine stock car double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976825)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:59 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

- and got a sub 3.0 GPA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976618)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:02 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

What makes you think the OP would do better? Keep in mind, a sub 3.0 at a lot of engineering schools isn't all that shitty. It isn't top of the class, but OP can't bank on being top of the class either. The guy has literally no technical background.

Also, it isn't like BU is a top name. But I suspect they're expensive as hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976632)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:03 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

lol uvt continually proves himself to be on another planet. His head is in the clouds. Don't bother arguing with this NOWAG ape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976638)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:06 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

He really is an ape. But unfortunately, if you don't demonstrate that he's an ape people might listen to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976657)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:09 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

i think anyone who has posted here frequently enough knows he's a bit of a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976668)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:04 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976648)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:07 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

I mean, you hated it then and now want to go back? I dunno, it just sounds half baked to me. Blowing a ton of money on more education for a field with problems that you didn't like before seems not so great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976662)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:11 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976677)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:14 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Yeah, if you can get it for free then sure, but I really don't see that happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976684)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:19 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976697)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:05 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Actually, a sub 3.0 anywhere is really really shitty.

I have no opinion on the particulars of this BU program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976654)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:10 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Pre-ITE sub-3.0 engineering majors had no problems getting jobs. In fact, he got a job straight out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976673)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:14 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

pre-ITE was obviously a joke. ITE is the NORM. It's the only economy I know so I don't complain like a bitch like you do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976685)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:15 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

My GPA is actually quite high. Your reading comp just sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976688)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:17 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

what? one of us can't read here, and it isn't me. I didn't even refer to your GPA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976693)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:18 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

"It's the only economy I know so I don't complain like a bitch like you do."

That sounds like it is about me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976695)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:20 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

yeah, but it's not about your GPA. lol@you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976700)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:22 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Look kid, I'm giving OP advice. You don't understand any of this shit so WHY ARE YOU HERE? Run along now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976703)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:25 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

your advice is generally terrible and exaggerates ITE to the nth degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976709)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:28 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Here's the thing - OP and I are law grads. We are in a very different situation from you and you are in a very different situation from even other ugrads. You seem to completely be unable to identify even blatant differences in situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976711)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:37 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Why are there law grads on this very board that are still making 160k-200k+ ITE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976723)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:37 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Because they didn't have something fuck them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976725)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:39 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Maybe that something was YOURSELF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976730)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:41 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Not really, no. But explaining how the legal market works to you would be an utterly fruitless endeavor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976732)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:46 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Yeah, I'm sure it's PURELY luck or whatever, and your terribly personality and decision making have nothing to do with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976741)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:47 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

I think my last post about covers it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976744)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:48 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

*is TMF*

*thinks he is INFALLIBLE*

*anything bad that happens is due to external factors!*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976746)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:28 AM
Author: curious topaz menage

Holy shit, you have no fucking idea how the legal market works. Why do you display your ignorance in threads like this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16000683)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:43 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

do you even understand what I wrote? I don't need to know the legal market to draw that conclusion.

TMF and I's disagreement is not related to law, but rather CS. I think he has an extremely overinflated and inaccurate view of his technical credentials, and should not blame ITE for his underemployment. For instance, he claimed in this very thread that he has better CS credentials than me. However, he also said before that he cannot sit for the patent bar without meeting some special course requirement thing, because his CS degree was like a BA degree. For comparison sakes, I have a degree in EECS from Cal, and I'm also working in the industry and applying to graduate school in CS. He is generally wrong on anything he posts about CS (for instance, his claim that IT and CS are the same thing, his hostility toward higher level math as an essential part of CS, etc.), and he is also overly defensively when called out on it. So while I try not to flame anyone these days, his insistence on doing this makes it hard not to once in a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16000818)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 3:20 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

"However, he also said before that he cannot sit for the patent bar without meeting some special course requirement thing, because his CS degree was like a BA degree."

LMAO, this isn't remotely close to correct but then again, none of your other shit is right either.

Incidentally, BA degrees are fine for the USPTO.

I could get a job in CS. The trouble is that I don't want to leave law. You are talking to a bunch of lawyers interested in IP law which you know nothing about. So gtfo and post on some CS forum you aspie loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16001827)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 4:46 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

You could probably get an IT job, luls. You don't want to leave your current shitlaw job, because even though it isn't much, it's the best thing you have.

Also keep denying, I distinctly remember you "having to research into whether you could sit for the patent bar". SAYTP B.A. in Information Technology.

And it's not my problem that people are too dumb to understand I'm not talking about patent law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002183)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:13 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

"You could probably get an IT job, luls"

*yawn*

"You don't want to leave your current shitlaw job, because even though it isn't much, it's the best thing you have."

The thing is, like I said before and as others have pointed out, you have no idea how legal hiring or career progression works. If I got a higher paying job programming, then I would be in a worse position to return to law later. And as you probably are beginning to realize - programmers do not make big money. Lawyers, however, do.

"Also keep denying, I distinctly remember you "having to research into whether you could sit for the patent bar". SAYTP B.A. in Information Technology."

Again, not arguing about my resume which I can't even disclose on here. The point is that if you pull up the patent bar app, read it, and think really hard then just maybe you'll figure out the possibilities here. But in any event, it is pretty funny to see someone with a fucking ugrad degree talking so much shit. You just have no fucking clue about anything yet you'll talk shit about anything to just about anyone. You've never made six figures in your life and could well never make six figures yet you talk trash to someone who has made roughly double that. But ok, sure man, whatever floats your boat.

"And it's not my problem that people are too dumb to understand I'm not talking about patent law."

No kid, you're too dumb to understand that we are. Because you're an aspie virgin who has never touched a tit in your life that doesn't belong to your mother. Big mouth and small brain? That's you. Big ego small dick? Also you.

But serious question - why do you even post here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002211)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:18 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

*blah blah blah deny deny deny throw in random insult blah blah blah*

I don't have the time or interest to write out a full post, but let's face it: you were too dumb to do CS, so you went into law, but you still couldn't cut it in BIGLAW, because you have a horrible personality.

this line was gold though:

"You've never made six figures in your life and could well never make six figures yet you talk trash to someone who has *made* roughly double that."

NOTE THE TENSE. LMAO.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002216)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:20 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

*blah blah blah I'm a cubicle working with a false sense of superiority blah blah blah virgin for life blah blah blah*

I wouldn't trade places with you in a million years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002218)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:23 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

lol, you would kill 10 babies to have a degree that contains the words electrical engineering. You are completely deranged and pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002220)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:24 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&mc=103&forum_id=2#16002218



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002223)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:31 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Let's face it, I have a degree in EECS, I can easily score 175+ and get into a T14. I also speak Mandarin and am good looking, so I'm practically guaranteed BIGLAW, which is your one true passion in life.

You would fucking KILL to trade places with me, fgt, and that's probably why you constantly try to start flame wars with me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002227)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:34 AM
Author: Twinkling plaza

what the fuck man its 5:31

can't you guys just go to sleep or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002231)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 1:39 PM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

LOLOLOL, I graduated from a T14 and am significantly less aspie than you are. The chances of you being good looking are exactly 0, and you are a virgin. Biglaw isn't my one true passion but you're dumb and aspie so you know, there's another fuckup. But again, here you go bragging about what you "could" do. No dumbass, you don't get credit for potential shit.

I would never, ever trade places with you because you are a sad loser that rages at the world because you are impotent in life and are ultimately inconsequential to the world. Nothing you have done is impressive, and there's a fairly excellent chance that nothing you will do will be impressive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003680)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 2:21 PM
Author: violet disrespectful base

All I have to say is:

U MAD?

You are so easy to troll.

Also, talking about potential > living in the past, and in your case, a past that was still shit. But I guess deep down, EVEN you know that you don't have much to look forward to. Makes me kinda feel bad for pointing it out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003923)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 2:23 PM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

LOL, it is hilarious how invested in this you are. Nah, not mad, just lulzing at you thinking you matter to anyone not your mother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003934)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 2:26 PM
Author: violet disrespectful base

lol @ you bringing mothers into this. eweu argh mad, dawg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003948)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 2:26 PM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

vat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003950)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 8:03 AM
Author: Pontificating Razzmatazz Hell

IT and CS are definitely not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002285)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 5:23 AM
Author: Twinkling plaza

omg why why why

are you guys just railing at each other at 5:20 in the morning or whatever?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16002221)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:38 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976727)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 1:40 PM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Don't let this dude get to you. He is a clueless aspie virgin that talks a lot of shit on the internets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16003689)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:57 AM
Author: magical grizzly nursing home

No, his advice is spot-on, and in any event, I don't know why you think you have the slightest clue what hiring is like in the legal field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976751)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:16 AM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

most places didn't even look at your grades unless it was an extremely prestigious place like Merck or Exxon. The Fed also requested grades too.

I started looking for jobs in Oct '07. Found one by late November (including the whole screening cycle, callbacks, flying out to meet them for 2nd round interviews, etc).

I graduated in May '08.

i think the class before mine had like 80% or somethign ridiculous get offers by 6 months out. And many of the other 20% were on the higher end of the spectrum, going to grad school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976690)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:58 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Nope, unfortunately, a lot of engineers are in trouble. PauliePorsche here was a chemical engineer that got laid off and had a lot of trouble getting back on his feet. Also, salaries aren't such that even if you did get something that it would save you. Think 50-60k. Given $200k debt + even more from the grad program, I dunno. If IP were doing better then that would be one thing, but it isn't.

I wish I knew what to suggest for someone in your shoes but I don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976617)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 3:59 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976622)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 9:04 PM
Author: Mint trip trump supporter police squad

TMF you are right on. IP law isn't doing great and may even be worse than many other areas of law, right now. I have t14 on my resume (as you do) and DO have an EE degree and have been unable to find any regular work in that field. It's disappointing to see so many delusional or un-informed wanna-be lawyers piling into law school thinking they are going to snag those law firm jobs. These kids should pay serious attention to reputable sites like the WSJ and to a lesser extent Abovethelaw. If they did I think we'd see a lot more people deferring admission or taking a year off to wait and see if the market recovers before dumping more money into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16006793)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:02 AM
Author: Primrose site

No. "Really great IP credentials" should be reserved for EE's. Every above-median EE I know has been buried with CBs/offers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976636)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:04 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Ok, mine is CS. It isn't EE but still considered solid. And they are very good CS creds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976644)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:04 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

He has a CS bachelor's that didn't require higher level math, and taught him that CS=IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976649)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:05 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

I have better than that but ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976653)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:07 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

*is TMF*

*not subtlely drops hints about his master's in Information Technology Entrepreneurship*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976661)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:08 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

LOL, if you knew my creds you would piss yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976664)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:10 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Do you have a PHD in CS from a top 5 school? That's the only CS credential that would impress me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976670)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:11 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

You don't have a PhD in CS from a T5 school. When you do then you can talk shit like that. But you probably never will. U mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976676)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:12 AM
Author: light duck-like state

Whereas a mediocre Masters in EE with uncertain grades is the awesomest thing ever, right?

edit: a mediocre Masters in an engineering program that's not even necessarily ee. Which is what the op was discussing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976680)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:09 AM
Author: light duck-like state

His IP credentials are excellent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976666)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:11 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

what does that mean? he has a masters from a 10-14th ranked CS program? so like Purdue, Wisconsin or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976674)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:12 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

I'll let you wonder. Regardless, it is more impressive than what you have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976682)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:15 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Um, no. I haven't gone to grad school yet, and my undergrad degree is from a top 3 program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976687)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:17 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

"I haven't gone to grad school yet"

I like how you say this as though you deserve credit for this. Translation: I don't have a grad degree.

"and my undergrad degree is from a top 3 program."

And you make like $65k/year. Look, adults are talking. Go back to the kids table.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976691)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:23 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Yeah man, I'm sure your MS in Information Technology Entreprenuership from Northwestern pwns me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976704)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:24 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

LOL, ok man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976708)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:25 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

It's CS to you, because you think IT is CS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976710)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:28 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

*sigh* BE LESS ASPIE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976712)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: Mint trip trump supporter police squad

I highly doubt that many 2Ls are "buried" in offers right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16006820)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 8:17 AM
Author: Ultramarine stock car double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976824)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:09 AM
Author: Frum personal credit line

I don't know any unemployed engineers, and I know a lot of engineers. Why do you think the engineering market is shot to hell?

I got the hell out of IP law (thank goodness) and started a software company. We pay our best people around 130k (which is worth it), and I'm constantly worried we'll lose them.

Am I missing something here? Maybe you are a biomedical or civil engineer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16000527)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: Mint trip trump supporter police squad

What type of work does your company do? What programming languages are big now in your field?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16006845)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:01 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

Don't listen to these unemployed and underemployed bitter fgts. Jobs are still out there for people who are competent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976628)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:05 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ makes $60k/year and is a superstudyazn that lived and breathed math and went in CS. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from this douchebag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976651)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:06 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

I make more than that and Im fresh out of UG, u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976659)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:08 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

Ok, $65k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976663)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:30 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

I like how you keep lowballing how much a programmer in CA makes, because it's probably higher than what you make. lulz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976713)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:31 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

So spit it out then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976716)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:35 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

No, I'm not tasteless like you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976719)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:36 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

LOL, I like how you think implying that you make big money isn't tasteless but naming a figure is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976721)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:38 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

It's not "big money" by any means. I just think it's tasteless to talk about exact wages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976726)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:40 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

You're not fooling anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976731)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:44 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

um what? You are deranged. I'm not claiming that I make anymore than market for my area and my major, which means there are plenty of people on here that make much more than me. you are just not one of those people :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976735)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: Frum personal credit line

It looks to me like you need to find something you like, you are good at, and is in demand.

If that's IP law, then go for this. But major in EE so that you can get a job. I'm not sure you should tell BU of your plans to leave engineering though, they'll probably want to train the best engineers.

If that's engineering then pick your discipline and go for it. Keep a good GPA and a positive business-minded attitude and you will find work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16000594)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:41 AM
Author: spruce round eye

The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real analysis. (vs.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976733)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:43 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976734)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:44 AM
Author: spruce round eye

The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real analysis. (vs.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976736)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:45 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976739)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:46 AM
Author: spruce round eye

The solution to your problem is rigorous course in real analysis. (vs.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976740)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:47 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976742)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:50 AM
Author: spruce round eye

It's not shtick. It's parodying purportedly serious advice given by vs. all the time. I don't know if he's very smart but he's pathetically naive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976747)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:51 AM
Author: Gay marvelous stead weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976749)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:52 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

yeah, because I'm obviously serious about it 100% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976750)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Sepia awkward doctorate theater stage

well you're retarded about 98% of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#16006853)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:44 AM
Author: Misanthropic odious parlor community account

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976737)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:47 AM
Author: violet disrespectful base

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976745)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 4:50 AM
Author: Talking sweet tailpipe

For every nigger, there is a thread such that you are a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15976748)



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Date: September 6th, 2010 10:39 AM
Author: Greedy corner

Impossible to get hired without experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1415721&forum_id=2#15977096)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Mint trip trump supporter police squad

Yes. Three-five years would probably be the best bet at finding something at a law firm or in-house.

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