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In Biglaw i'd just be waiting for some partner 2 ruin my weekend
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Date: May 24th, 2013 5:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse so nice to not have to worry about that. I must have gotten calls 20 times in my 7 years in biglaw on Friday at 4pm before a 3-day weekend forcing me to work all weekend and cancel plans or work the whole time from wherever I was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23263393) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 8:07 PM Author: Canary mewling legend nice man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23263955) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 9:21 PM Author: costumed violent den ive been in biglaw 3 years and had this happen like twice. lol at you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23264445) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 9:52 PM Author: Comical lodge gunner I am not sure what OP meant. If he meant having to work on weekends on a deal that he's already on (just didn't know whether there will be work to do on the weekends) then it happens all the time in biglaw. If he meant some random partner called out of the blue and asked him to work on a random deal, then it is rare. That has happened to me maybe 1-2 times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23264643) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 11:32 PM Author: avocado national toaster yeah, that god its not THAT bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265318) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 11:38 PM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse Both. But I had lots of calls on Friday afternoon asking to work on a new deal that required that I work all weekend. It became a lot more frequent as I got more senior and wasn't as fungible with other associates because of some background specific to a deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265356) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 11:42 PM Author: Comical lodge gunner Ah, ic. My experience is not as bad, but I am also not senior. In any event, in biglaw it is a total open season on your weekends, evening facetime is also expected unless you want to get fired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265370) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 11:44 PM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse It got worse. First 4 years I stayed under 2100 hours. By the end I was annualizing 2500 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265382) |
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Date: May 24th, 2013 11:46 PM Author: Comical lodge gunner I have managed to stay between 2000 and 2100 in every one of the 3 years I have been here. I have no plan to stay pass year 4.
You don't think partnership is a possibility with 2500+ years? |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 11:13 AM Author: greedy gaping cumskin Sure non equity partnership where they squeeze you dry at 2500+ hrs forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23266816) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 11:44 AM Author: Comical lodge gunner do they really work that much? even non equities at my firm seem to be gone by 7, for the most part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23266934) |
Date: May 25th, 2013 12:59 AM Author: Orange vibrant office giraffe That's not even three times per year. Doesn't sound terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265777) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 1:16 AM Author: Comical lodge gunner sometimes it is not that it actually happened, but rather the potential for it to happen that ruined the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265837) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 11:38 AM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse There are only a handful of long weekends per year.
And the sucky part isn't that they happen,it's that it happens at the last minute when you already have plans. If they were scheduled weeks in advance it would be NBD |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 1:05 AM Author: Stimulating senate dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23265788) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 9:48 AM Author: Comical lodge gunner I am waiting for some partner to ruin my (long) weekend right now. It's not random, I have been on these deals for the past week, but it still sucks. FML, I hate this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2264891&forum_id=2#23266613) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 12:26 PM Author: stirring chest-beating spot chad Thought I was off the hook because documents weren't turned around by the time I left last night.
I went out with friends and got really drunk.
Got an email this morning saying documents got turned around after all. Now I'm in the office, hung over, and shitting my brains out every 30 minutes (got Mickey D's breakfast on the way in - a little treat to myself!) |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 12:33 PM Author: At-the-ready dopamine I read threads like this and I wonder if I got very lucky because I've been in BIGLAW for nearly 6 years, and have never once been called into the office on a weekend out of the blue. Never.
Definitely had a few weekends where some shit has hit the fan and I've had to put in 10-12 hours of work from home over the course of the weekend on a project that was not on the radar Friday afternoon, but that's very rare. Maybe 2 times per year. And people are always very apologetic about it.
Also never had a vacation or holiday weekend away ruined in this way. |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 12:49 PM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse Not called into the office on a weekend, but having something pop up on Friday afternoon that ruins your weekend or long weekend is common. You are right that if you don't know about it on Friday it isn't likely to happen.
I definitely had a couple long weekend trips to Tahoe that involved me sitting in a coffee shop with wifi working while my wife and our friends were skiing or having fun. Also, had fun two years ago working Memorial Day weekend after hearing about the deal on Friday afternoon.
But, like you, I literally never stepped foot in the office on a weekend day for more than 15 minutes to pick something up. I work from home a lot, but that isn't that much more pleasant.
It is just nice to know that I can to Napa for the weekend with no need to even bring my computer. |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 12:55 PM Author: At-the-ready dopamine I honestly think this is as much about setting expectations as the natural bent of the people you are dealing with. When I get ready to go on a vacation, I tell people that I'm basically going to be out of pocket. I tell them that weeks in advance. I tell them repeatedly. I don't apologize for it. I don't let guilty get the best of me and say something like "I guess if it's important I can do a few hours of work."
Some partners are just assholes, don't give a fuck, and will expect you to drop everything to service them. But most are't. And as long as you're clear about not being available, you have the cover to simply not be availble, even if you probably could be if you were willing to ruin your vacation.
Looking back, do you feel like you worked with shitty people? Do you feel like you could have done more to stand up for yourself? |
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Date: May 25th, 2013 12:57 PM Author: Mind-boggling carnelian meetinghouse That works for true vacations, but it surely didnt work for weekends, even if you had specific plans.
Now my clients (and other people at the firm) just don't expect you to work weekend...period. It is really nice. And if you do, it is considered way above and beyond. |