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Ted Boutroustp: Describe the FEELING of getting gaped by EPAH at CA9 today
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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Can’t feel good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741391) |
Date: March 12th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Ahem. Don’t we even discuss lawsuit legal cases here and how epah always pwns biglolyers here anymore? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741546) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,.. get a real job you old as fuck mormon bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741552) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: kikekilla9000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742124) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: subcontinental computer genius Link to the oral argument recording (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741561) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:08 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Well I’m not gonna link it here with people like that ⬆️ quotemo ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741626) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: Quercus Do you mind if we post the link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742017) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: Forgot About Dre ((zurich is stained)) i wish i'd stayed at baker hostetler.
i'm about to go to a 150-atty "boutique" firm based in LA. rate me? |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 5:47 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Sounds 1,000,000x better than, “Oh, the other ‘Baker’?”
Edit: OTOH, 150 lolyers is not a “boutique.” It’s shitlaw. |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: Forgot About Dre ((zurich is stained)) Not cr. Boutique has nothing to do with size, unlike your tiny pink member
This firm does most of the labor work for the movie studios and media cos. Somewhat prestigious. |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband These screenshots basically summarize the issue: https://imgur.com/a/Bdteogu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741921) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:49 PM Author: penis burn victim who is the lesbian arguing in the top photo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742137) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:50 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband He’s a very “famous” lawyer at some bullshit LA firm (I assume the ordering is mis-displayed on your screen. Are you an Androidmo?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742140) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: penis burn victim no I am talking about the old as fuck lesbian on the top photo with the short hair not the old as fuck lesbian with the long gray hair in the bottom photo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742163) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Oh you’re a bitchboi ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742174) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:36 PM Author: Candy Ride He used to look so much more young and handsome. Sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742436) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: potluck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742149) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:40 PM Author: Candy Ride Your opponent looks like Henry Winkler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742442) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: Epistemic Humility I fucking hate GDC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742460) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 6:57 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Also relevant https://imgur.com/a/yS4LZae (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48741934) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Quercus Nice argument! Here's a screen cap of EPAH and his paralegal.
https://imgur.com/a/2V5yrVD |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband if only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742093) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,: Chambers Courthouse is 180, isn't it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742147) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband It’s kind of a warren, but yeah it’s alright. The window view in that courtroom is nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742162) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,: What'd you think of Rakoff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742167) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband We’ve had like four appeals with him. He’s great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742170) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,: He just found (on Monday) a major part of the sentencing guidelines unconstitutional, which is great for crime bros like me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742175) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:03 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband He gets reversed by CA2 all the time for being buckwild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742176) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: .,.,.,,,..;;:..,;,.;,.,::,: Sure. But I don't think this opinion can be appealed.
Does your work ever take you to NYC? |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:01 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Hasn’t since we represented some (foreign-born) wholesalers out there is the Clear Eyes case in 2021 or so. But we’ve got a new case against PepsiCo, so I expect they’ll insist on depos out there. A place called “Purchase, NY.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742322) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: shitlib shibboleth You seem insecure. Ted’s a legend. You’re a nobody. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742150) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Counterpoint: Ted is short, has weird hair, and wears ill-fitting suits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742166) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
All true, but also enough about EPAH... |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:06 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband I thought you’d left after triumphantly posting that Israeli dude’s prediction that TSLA is headed to the stratosphere. How’d you come back from that anyway? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742182) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:07 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
How did I "come back from" poasting a link to guy who gets paid to make financial predictions for a living saying that he thinks TSLA numbers will go up?
IDK good question, wow.
Btw here's another link to another poast I made about another guy employed at another fund saying a similar thing (I actually made this one first), god I hope this doesn't horribly embarrass me again :(
http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688944&mc=19&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:08 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Oh yeah, this was the thread https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5690705&mc=45&forum_id=2
Maybe you can post there and set those guys straight? Just an idea. |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:09 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Wait, so I literally typed out "TBF-free thread" in that OP, and now you're in here giving me shit for.... not poasting in it? |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Your a bitchboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742209) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:15 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Wow |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:45 PM Author: Epistemic Humility Yes, he is an elite trial lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742463) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: Kenneth Play congrats brother! is that jed rakoff on the west coast? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742165) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Yeah. He’s great (as a judge). Seems pretty cool in general though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742168) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:53 PM Author: Kenneth Play He wanted to pursue a scholarly diversion that you didn't seem interested in, on the imputation of fraud. Most of the argument was over my head. It sounds like you have law on your side, but Boutros has facts? And is smooth and presented an easy option for the court to take his side. OTOH Wardlaw seemed focused on the fact that the case started before the fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742296) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 8:58 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Very perceptive for just watching the arguments man. I was kicking myself for opening the door to the scholarly diversion, but was hoping to build off of Wardlaw’s interest in it from her question to Ted. He actually doesn’t have the facts. His sentences were just a noun, a verb, and “fraud.” Sounded like that sufficed for Jed, but I think the other two care more about the legal issues that were presented. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742306) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:13 PM Author: Kenneth Play edited: I'd probably edit that - I bet Jed posts. And when we say that TB has "nothing" on his side, I would say he has charisma, and also your client does not sound particularly likable. I mean, I like you, and by extension your clients. But I think that was doing a lot of work in Ted's presentation - he basically kept hammering on "let's keep in mind that this guy is a fraud who's wasting the court's time and making you think about stuff" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742351) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 8:22 AM Author: shitlib shibboleth lol he is a notorious asshole maniac (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743173) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband You should've seen my pre-edit post. But then I realized that we have to be nice to judges online. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743581) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:53 AM Author: Forgot About Dre ((zurich is stained)) agree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743604) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:06 PM Author: richard clock is this a new case against TLS Ted or the same one from before? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742334) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:11 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Same cigar case. Third appeal, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742344) |
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Date: March 12th, 2025 9:16 PM Author: richard clock jfc, gotta love the law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742363) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:55 PM Author: ;::;:;;::;;;;;:::: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745196) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:53 AM Author: Forgot About Dre ((zurich is stained)) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743603) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: peeface need video to see how out of control the hand movements were
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:56 AM Author: Epistemic Humility If you go to CA9 oral arg video website it may or may not be the top, most recent link. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743627) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:07 AM Author: peeface Hands: 6/10 Gay Kermit Voice: 4/10 His simmering lust for Judge Rawlinson: 10/10 |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:15 AM Author: Epistemic Humility He talked over her at one point and ignored her question and she was unhappy - unsubtle neg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743718) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband ? She didn't speak in my part iirc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743748) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Epistemic Humility Listening to this now, what a tortured procedural history.
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:57 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband I predict at least one more appeal, in around 2028.
Then $$$ |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:59 AM Author: Epistemic Humility Is interest running? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743642) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:01 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Yeah but it's only 5% federal post-judgment. But we get fees, so I kinda don't mind just billing 500 hours/year to this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743650) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: Kenneth Play so if you win, you also get your legal fees for work now like the oral argument? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744310) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:48 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Well, we'd have to win some aspect of it, like getting the fees order reversed. But since basically everything in dispute now is arguing over fees, and since you can get fees on fees, I'd expect to get all this time (I prepared for around 33 hours over the course of two weeks btw) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744669) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Diamond Dallas Trump *crosses out 33 and replaces it with 45* *crosses out 45, briefly hesitates, then settles on 52.3* |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Kenneth Play nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745655) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: Epistemic Humility Hell yeah, you think lawyers forgot to get fees for appeals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744724) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 10:58 AM Author: Epistemic Humility 4:50: idle musing tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743637) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:14 AM Author: Epistemic Humility 19:50: 200 million cigarillos or something tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743711) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: Epistemic Humility I think Ted is doing great, actually “fake, fraudulent profits . . . An affront to justice”
Scheme, confession, etc. turning it into a criminal case. It’s a strategy and he’s executing. |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband These aren't 98-IQ jurors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743761) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: Kenneth Play I edited above on this topic, agree that this was TB's strategy http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48742351 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744347) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:23 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband BTW, I copped that suit at Marshalls for $230 in 2014. (This was back before I knew you could get Walmart suits for $99) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743775) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:32 PM Author: David Poaster Wallace Came here to ask about the provenance of the tailoring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744602) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: internet g0y Theres only one judge there in person and two over zoom? what is this bullshit. they need to get their asses back in the office.
lol at the one judge just wearing a black turtle neck in front of a office that looks like a pig sty. pathetic. |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Nazca Redlines CR. Don't they have hearing days like once or twice a month? And they can't even be bothered to show up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745035) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: internet g0y the guys hairline in the back of the table is brutal. looks like a classic biglaw dork. just shave it off at that point. spacepornish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743793) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:27 AM Author: internet g0y funny how not a single judge is listening to anything you have to say and are just reading their papers or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743801) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:31 AM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband What? Judge Wardlaw and Rakoff were listening closely. I feel like Judge Rawlinson already knew where she'd come down from the briefing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743821) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 11:34 AM Author: internet g0y Im like 2 mins in and it looks like the blonde is reading the briefs as you are talking, the frumpy black one is writing something down and not looking at you at all, and the white haired bald fraud in the shithole chambers looks like hes jacking off under the desk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48743836) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: Epistemic Humility That was a pretty focused bench. When he references the yellow brief they are in the yellow brief. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48744727) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 2:46 PM Author: L.L.M. Vance "Your honor, Ted Boutrous for appella-" "Excuse me counsel, don't you mean Ted 'The Raped'TM Boutrous?"
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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Sick Rakoff neg that on the 9th Cir website he is listed as "Rakoff" and the actual COA judges get ALL CAPS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745031) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 4:38 PM Author: internet g0y Can you summarily explain how defbro got fees awarded after you won a breach of K? You're the prevailing party and the other side got fees awarded? Sorry can't listen to this whole thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745107) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband This is very hard to explain, but it goes like this: On remand after CA9 ordered reinstatement of the contract judgment for us:
Ted to our kindly judge, "But my client should still be able to keep its $10M fee award, because we used to be the prevailing party."
Judge: "Is that even legal?"
Ted: "Yeah, it happens all the time."
Judge: "Oh, okay, that sounds fine."
Me: "But he didn't cite you any case where this has ever happened in history, and the Florida SCOTUS says that the fee award must conform to an appellate reversal."
Judge: "Florida SCOTUS?"
Me: "What?"
Judge: "It doesn't matter. Swisher can keep its fees." |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:25 PM Author: internet g0y extremely gay. worst part is you get a tiny pink postjudgment interest on fee awards (which i assume are considered part of the judgment for that) while Ted has got 20%+ every year in the S&P and crypto so even when he has to turn them over hes made like $2 mil of that alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745367) |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:29 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband They had already billed $20M in total fees as of 2023. Must be around $22M by now. And beyond the three at counsel table there were SIX GDC and Akerman lawyers in the gallery, along with the D's GC.
Edit: and the head of GDC's antitrust practice was sitting on the BENCH in front of the bar as the fourth attorney. Dude has been a lolyer for 41 years, and must bill $2K/hr minimum. Nice guy (even if almost entirely bald), but still. |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 5:33 PM Author: internet g0y lmao. im so glad im out of biglaw.
*second year rapidly taking notes on a hearing that will have an immediate transcript and video recording* |
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Date: March 13th, 2025 6:28 PM Author: David Poaster Wallace I once attended an expert deposition where a Quinn partner was 4th chairing the defense along with his 5th chair senior associate. They were, uh, not actively involved in the effort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5693159&forum_id=2#48745576) |