Flush out a lot of bad eggs. Party reinvents itself. Two years to remind everyone why they hate libs again.
When I joined the GOP informally in 2018 and formally in 2020, I always had a mind to reform it. Trump brought me into the party. I never would have joined without Trump. I was never a fan of George Bush, John McCain, of Mitt Romney. I was not watching Lou Dobbs or reading Breitbart. I was not politically awakened in 2016.
But I was really changed by Trump's nationalist populist message. I always thought America could be better than it was. I always thought people who hated America were losers. I believe in our exceptionalism. We have to live up to that. We have to be great. And we can do it but we need much better politicians. We can do better than this boomerslop.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:46 AM Author: Historical American
I voted D not flame and then I made some horrible predictions based on historical trends. I'm guilty of not predicting the election. You got me. GOP will be back under a new banner.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
I expect we'll see a lot of anti-war populists in 2028.
2024 was a referendum against wokeness and the Democrats (so far) have learned their lesson. We'll see if the GOP can do the same thing on neoconservatism.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:14 AM Author: Historical American
I don't know what will happen in '28. I think politics is very sophisticated in these times. Our empire is so complicated it's hard to point to any one thing.
But last night we actually did see one element of our system manifest itself: the triumph of lunch pail issues. The economy was paramount. The yearning for the federal government to focus internally and not on ideology, not on foreign wars. This was a real meat and potatoes election. People said hey, I don't want a big construction project that ruins my neighborhood. This is the inherent benefit of individuals voting in their own self interest. It's what keeps administrators away from doing what Trump did, a bizarre pointless war on behalf of a tiny special interest group.
So to that end maybe as Millennials hit 40 something they age into their Dave Smith Libertarian era and the neocons are routed. It's interesting. McConnell is a vegetable and Graham is dead. Maybe we really are over the Bush era shit. Although I don't think that side will ever give up. They will just think up new ways to weasel into power.
What will the 28 nominee do anyways? Disavow Trump the way he disavowed Bush? At the end of the day campaigns are just propaganda. We'll have no way of knowing they won't flip for the Adelsons as soon a they're sworn in. Odds on the Dems take back the White House because people will just be so sick of MAGA by that point. Although you never can tell what will happen.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
Youngkin and DeSantis are patriots and they would answer the call to serve as either Secretary of State/War/Treasury or NSA/CIA Director, but no--Trump can't handle strong men
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:36 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
He was a popular governor of the bluest state VA and hails from Texas for electoral bedrock constituency. He also happens to be a real guy and friend of farmers and working class (economic nationalism).
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:54 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
who would you compare him to. what is his stance on iran, israel, etc. don't know much about this dude. i will say he seems like a based guy as a person and if he was from my area we would probably know each other
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:35 AM Author: Historical American
By the same token someone will run as literally Hitler. So we'll get George P Bush on one side saying brown is beautiful and a Fuentes type on the other saying Heil Hitler.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:32 AM Author: rachmiel
trump served his purpose and was good in some ways, not so good in others, but the nation has changed a lot in 10 years. 2024 was a referendum against wokeness, and now we're going to have a reign of terror of anti-whiteness, which will be the new woke. listen to the things coming out of the mouth of the senator-elect from michigan, who really represents the direction things are going in. a different kind of race war is coming and it's not the one the accelerationists were hoping for. it's fashionable to be vocally anti-white, anti-christian, anti-jewish; soon it will be institutional, if it wasn't already.
gop has been pigeonholed as the party of white people and the democrats are savvy enough to know that in a country where almost everyone is of some kind of mixed heritage, that's a very shrinking, irrelevant identity. being the party of "everyone else" is like 70% of the population.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:38 AM Author: Historical American
This is correct. Good analysis. That being said I would rather the opposition party be full throated in their defense of traditional white America than whatever inclusive nonsense MAGA became. Nick called all of this. He had it dead to rights.
The one thing we can control now is whether white nationalism controls the future of the GOP. Let the 70% nons be on one side even if dominant. But every single elected Republican must be a groyper. Groypers have to take the wheel so everybody knows if these people win here's what's coming.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: ohnoes (🧐)
the counterpoint to this is the progressives won by significantly slimmer margins than the roy coopers (and progressives were generally running in more D-leaning states to begin with). this time around it literally did not matter who was running, a democrat was going to win, but the neo-clintonites had a much better showing than woke 3.0 bros
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:42 AM Author: Historical American
They were just smart enough to pivot away from the woke insanity for 6 months long enough to not freak everyone out. Sayed was supposed to win by 10 points and only won by a couple because people were freaked out. It's touch and go. They could screw this up again with relative ease.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:49 AM Author: Historical American
If anything the left will cut back on the antisemitism now that they're in power. They're going to go after whiteness writ large. They're going to make this about the horrors of white people in general while the Jews slowly build a position in owning their politicians. They will stop going after Jews and start going after goys. Goys will be the new bad guys mark my words
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: Jason Turkish ((zurich is stained))
the message from last night is this: with jews, you lose. democrats have at least started to distance themselves from israel. look how they did. trump has embraced israel, gone after "antisemitism" in america, started a war for israel. look how his party did.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Why is he wrong? People act like parties are monolithic rather than an affiliation of people alive at the time. The parties have always changed.
70% of people under 50 have a disfavorable view on Israel. The question isn't whether both parties drop Israel, but when. It's inevitable as the boomers die off.
Date: November 4th, 2026 11:14 AM Author: Historical American
There's some truth to this but I think that based on what I've seen from Democrats, the anti Israel thing is largely based on anti European colonialism. They don't like that white faces from Europe are stomping on the brown guy. They didn't like it when whites did apartheid in South Africa either. Their grudge is against whites and imperialism. Jews just became the face of it in our timeline.
I think the broader concern will be to band together against whitey and paint groypercons as racist and keep them out of power. Also there's a shitload of liberal Jews among the ranks of Democrats. I think they will push back against Israel lightly. They will soften, not go all out.
The difference between right and left antisemitism is huge. Tbtp hates Israel because they murder brown people, a sacred cow among liberal Jews. The right hates them for steering the country off a cliff and for playing both sides. They're really not aligned on the issue. I don't think the left has it in them to do meaningful pushback. Israel is not going away. The donors will simply come back from the Right and try and make good with the libs. Tons of libs love Israel too like Schumer and Jeffries. The two most powerful Dems are both tacit Zionists. Change can only come from the Right.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
Yes the only way for the (R) to have success is to distance itself from Israel, BUT the groypers will go too far and make everybody hate them by bringing up (((them))) instead of focusing on (((Israel)))
Date: November 4th, 2026 11:26 AM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Yeah Zurich did say "renounce Jews" and I'm talking about Israel policy. But I don't think there's a snowballs chance either party "renounces Jews." Even Fuentes emphasizes constantly he's not an antisemite and has a ton of Jew friends.
Date: November 4th, 2026 11:41 AM Author: Historical American
Individual Jews are 180. I'd take a bullet for Rach or tbtp. But by the same token Bari Weiss and Ben Shapiro are deeply evil, Satanic people with a lot of money power and influence. What am I supposed to do?
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Historical American
Yeah but Zionist coalition is huge, powerful, robust, rich, indefatigable, and crosses party lines. Someone has to stand up to it. Like Nick I'm not calling for Kristalnacht. But we need groypers now and forever.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Historical American
She would never in a million years vote Republican let alone for white nationalism which she sees as the enemy. She thinks race is a construct and it would be better if everyone were brown. She would never endorse groypers. Similarly I would never endorse El Sayed/Mamdani/ParaMo types whom I view as jihadis who should be deported. Am I glad Jews lost in Michigan? Yes. But not like this. Not with brown clowns. We're way further apart than you think.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Nothing in your last poast had anything to do with that. And it's funny you launch into identity politics right after recognizing prejudicing Jews is inaccurate.
You're doing a great job demonstrating exactly how people who agree with each other remain divided and policies with majority support never happen because the elites fill the power vacuum while we fight over shit like race nationalism which will never, ever fucking happen.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:39 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
I definitely think we need to sharply reduce immigration for cultural reasons as well as economic. So while we probably disagree on how much white factors into our culture we end up the same place on policy.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:55 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
no i dont think so, it is because they all live together and there is a lot of propoganda against black women, of course much of it is true. i dont think this is any jewish thing. of course they do ignite it tho
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:58 PM Author: Historical American
You're wrong it all comes from the top down. It's liberal executives in the media. Music and movies. It's all run by liberals who hate white culture, and many, not all, but many of them are Jewish. The suppression of stuff white people like is immense.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:03 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
So then whites aren't "the culture" but they should be but for jews and your solution is to deport the browns that are also against the jews because for reasons you can't explain it's ok to be bigoted against them but not the jews.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:09 PM Author: Historical American
It makes perfect sense. You obviously don't watch the show (America First with Nicholas J Fuentes). It's called taking your own side. White Christian America has to take its own side. We don't need Arabs or Jews. We need each other. We all we got, we all we need.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:16 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
What you've said is inconsistent because you just said there are Jews you'd die for and that you're not against Jews as a class. Now you're saying you are. That's inconsistent.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:23 PM Author: Historical American
No I'm definitely against Jewish power. So is Zurich. The difference is I like more of them on a personal level. Zurich has way more personal antipathy than I do. But we're aligned on Jewish power. Not that hard to comprehend.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:51 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
i have nothing against black people on principle. if we actually enforced the laws the bad ones would be locked up and it would help both the white and black communities. i even think they should be able to smoke all the marijuana they want, even in jail if they work for it, would probably cut down on fights and stuff.
with that said we need to bring back freedom of association as well, which I know is where we lose a lot of black people.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:12 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
I agree with all that except I don't know what you're specifically referring to with freedom of association since we do have that right and it's uncontroversial.
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:51 AM Author: AZNgirl asking Democrat Handsome to Pound Her Next
The only way the GOP "reforms" in the long run is cutting off the birdshit racist part of its party cause in TX beaners swang like 28% back to DEMS
If GOP losses TX in 2028 then its really over for MAGA, the GOP will have to totally reform though its gonna be hard since the primaries are full of MAGA retards
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: AZNgirl asking Democrat Handsome to Pound Her Next
if all non-birsdhits banded together GOP wld be furked too, benchod
this is all retarded, u never wld get 100% birdshits voting together, u arente ven same race u are all diff euro ethnicites and to this day ur voting patterns still follow those ethnicites (like scots irish are more GOP i think)
Date: November 4th, 2026 10:59 AM Author: AZNgirl asking Democrat Handsome to Pound Her Next
birdhsit have no identiyy and culture this is all retarded, wheres ur euro culture? oh u gave it up. what are you? oh u are like 25% each german swed italians and irish (ie 50% nigga)
Date: November 4th, 2026 11:42 AM Author: Historical American
My boomer uncle said Trump is his forever President and the main role of any Prez is to pwn the libs and make Fox News as riveting as possible for him to enjoy his retirement watching.
it seems obvious in retrospect but trump has always been a marketing and talking savant. he doesn't do anything. he never has and never will.
but all his talk in 2016 about immigration made me believe he'd actually do something worthwhile. but he never approached the issue in a mature, two-sided manner. (by two-sided, i mean going after employers of illegals in showy ways in addition to going after criminal illegals.)
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:28 PM Author: Richard Ames
Tbh I think he actually wanted to do what he said in 2016, but seemed to not understand the level of pushback he'd get from within the GOP, let alone the Dems. There are all those compilation vids of Trump sharing his views across the decades and he's always been consistent.
IMO something more substantial changed after the assassination attempt.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:33 PM Author: Historical American
This happened to Arnold too. He went to Sacramento to fix California. The unions rugpulled him. They all said if you try and clean up the state we will ruin you. So he did nothing.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:32 PM Author: Historical American
He's maturing like a fine wine. Show gets better with time. He does a lot less edgelording and there's way more nuance. He's improving all the time as a critical voice of the nation.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:57 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
he hates Anglo America, Anglo Americans, our culture, our founders, and everything else. the gay part about him is actually not that he is part beaner it's that he is Irish and Italian (and gay)
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:33 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
he spoke extensively about how he could never live in an anglo american town and that he needs to be in a diverse city with food options to really live. he is an ethnic white, he is not one of us. he can be dictator of chicago but i dont want to be part of any movement with him leading it
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:52 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez
and they stopped because of ICE deporting regular wetbacks, not just violent gang members. they are race centric, they see those people as their own cousins. they want america to become less white. same with Jews. same with even the Irish.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:41 PM Author: aryan chad
>Trump's nationalist populist message
Good marketing but not the product that was delivered. You're not going to get "nationalist populist" policy from milquetoast conservatives and 90s democrats like Trump and Elon Musk.
You're only going to get the genuine article from a revolutionary movement willing to challenge and dethrone Jewish power and international finance capital.
Date: November 4th, 2026 12:57 PM Author: Richard Ames
I think the only chance the GOP really has is to move a layer deeper from a policy perspective. Most of the current arguments from both sides are surface level and don't address the underlying issues we face.
Where is the candidate who will push back on the mass consolidation that has taken place across industries?
There isn't a single sector in America where you won't find private equity "roll-ups" or conglomerates extracting cash without creating any real economic value. Look at the threads we've had on XO about shit like youth sports and the racket it's become. It's hardly just youth sports, it is a cancer across every sector.
The left will sometimes point to this issue, but their solution is more-or-less just socialism / collectivism. The right will say "we are against socialism, we support free markets" as though PE spreadsheet jockeys are doing anything other than a privatized version of communism.
Obviously this isn't the only issue, but it is a major underlying issue that could unite huge swathes of America across both parties. And, increasingly, it is impacting people further-and-further up the economic food chain. It's hardly an issue that just impacts the average worker bee.
Date: November 4th, 2026 1:05 PM Author: Richard Ames
I know, I am not naive. But unless this sort of shit is addressed, there is almost no point in participating in politics.
I'd also argue that these issues are now impacting the very people who cause them. Working in PE is not the panacea it was 10 years ago. It is a brutal slog with far less upside than in the past because there are simply too many people in the space. It's basically a more preftigious sounding version of consulting now IMO, without the real juice in all but a few instances.
what’s a theoretically possible policy solution to this? genuine q. i agree with the spirit of the sentiment here but doubt it’s possible or at least lack the imagination to think of potential answers that aren’t radical (and much closer to some species of socialism).