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Should I Drop Out?

About 60k in debt at CLS. Another 80k (apparently...recen...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
"Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
It is theirs. They signed it. I did no signing on that one, ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
You are a sack of shit for making your parents pay that much...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
They encouraged me to go to that school. Typical middle clas...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
awww
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
Indeed. I mean, the overall plan was pretty vaguely put to m...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
You both sound like idiots.
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
That's not very nice.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
you write like you might be schizoprhenic. have you been tes...
fiercely-loyal juggernaut hissy fit
  05/27/10
I have bipolar, actually.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Why don't you just live with them and scrape by on BIGDISABI...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
ingenious
fiercely-loyal juggernaut hissy fit
  05/27/10
It was a joke.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
"into which I got" 180
razzmatazz national immigrant
  05/27/10
titcr wtf
Umber mediation quadroon
  05/27/10
into which I got accepted.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
180
arousing peach locus gunner
  05/27/10
It works fine grammatically. Ask any HS English teacher.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
it's a weird combination of stilted english and colloquial u...
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threads are being outsourced to mumbai bro. they didnt just ...
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Normal white guy, here. So sorry you could not understand my...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
lol
ruby plaza dragon
  05/28/10
cr
Exhilarant Salmon Garrison
  05/28/10
To be fair, typical for middle class jews and asians.
Mauve halford meetinghouse
  05/27/10
I am neither. Parents are neither.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
fag
mind-boggling business firm community account
  05/27/10
you still have a decent shot of biglaw. do OCI and see what ...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
Don't mock me with decent shot, bro.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Serious dude. I'm at NYU. got 3 callbacks LAST YEAR with a s...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
What ended up happening to you? I thought you didn't get one...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
didn't get one. But I also didn't mail in August like I shou...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
Not too encouraging, no offense.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
no offense taken. I just think you've got a decent shot, tha...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
ty.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
what are you going to do now, man? aren't you nervous?
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
Working for the government. Won't lead to a real job. I'm so...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
Why are you giving me these encouraging words of wisdom, the...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
because I think you have a decent shot. your grades are bett...
Chrome indian lodge
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You should consider doing something interesting that will le...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
doing foreign services makes my student debt go away? where ...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
That ten year gov IBR forgiveness program, bro. As long a...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
I do. but how will I make loan payments in the interim?
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
I was under the impression that the entirety of the loan was...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Yeah. I just don't know how i will make 10 years of payments...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
I thought the program had the gov make the payments.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
well shit I don't know. I thought what you had left after 12...
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
what about those new gov't rules where loan payments don't e...
adventurous scourge upon the earth
  05/27/10
I think that is post-2014.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
I also think that is the 25 year IBR or something.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
I have asked these types of questions, not only about law sc...
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I have asked these types of questions, not only about law sc...
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youre not at UVA or fucking Cardozo. Columbia is still legi...
overrated hell
  05/27/10
*rimshot*
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
I don't want to wallow in debt here with bad odds at BIGLAW....
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
well, if you were not already 100K in the hole, i would tell...
overrated hell
  05/27/10
As much as I know that is a joke, I am one of the few people...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
I hear you. It's a tough situation. You seem like a cool dud...
overrated hell
  05/27/10
tcr
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ty. Living abroad is great. More people should try it.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
i thought a B+ was a good grade. it's almost an A, right?
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
Ha.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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You should drop out if you don't want to be a lawyer or will...
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I wouldn't mind being one in specific practice areas. We'll ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
3 grades out
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Yeah, of course. I was just saying if I had similar grades.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Well, ty for the kernels of good advice, here and there. It'...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
The answer is obviously to drop out, but sadly you won't.
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  05/27/10
I am very close to doing this. I probably will, in the end.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
You don't have the guts.
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
Yeah?
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
can't you go work for the government and have the loans forg...
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
If I can get a gov job, yeah. This is a way to have the LS l...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
yeah. but the CLS degree might come in handy at some point i...
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
0L? Recently migrated from TLS?
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Might be applicable if law schools were drastically curtaili...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
stop freaking out. you're not fucked like last year's grads....
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(rudolph)
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  05/27/10
Firm hiring overwhelmingly predicted to stay the same.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
I dont follow. You've solicited advice. People are giving ...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
Just talking.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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PERSONALLY, I think it's worth it to see through an educatio...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
So willing to hustle.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
If this is true, and you're committed to hustling the fuck o...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
Thanks, bro. I'm working in a city this summer that is outsi...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
That precludes you from sending emails, drawing from your ne...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
No, of course not. I do the e-mail stuff pretty often, to be...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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Fuck formalities. you're past that. you bypassed that when...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
Advice on cold e-mailing then? How do I approach that situat...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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please tell me you aren't this fucking clueless. 1. fi...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
To be fair, I hustled pretty hard to get my BIGGOV internshi...
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  05/27/10
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Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
you're fine dude. the real question is why you took out 80K ...
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See above explanation. Rents told me to go to the top school...
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sticker at a private, classic
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
which school do you think it was?
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
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He's from a middle class shittown like Erie, PA so I think h...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
Top 15 nationally ranked university. Not NYU. Not from some ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
John's Hopkins?
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
Not Johnny Hop. Similar caliber.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
WUSTL.
Exciting Orange Parlour Karate
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In a nutshell. The idea that a state school would not be goo...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
Wouldn't be good enough for who? Because YOU are the one wit...
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
I just didn't look into the state school system. Nobody real...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
LRAP makes it so attending law school can be practically fre...
beta tank
  05/27/10
tcr
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  05/27/10
Exactly. LRAP means you will be perfectly fine debtwise.
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  05/27/10
you'll get a job eventually - if you can't find anything wit...
Vermilion church deer antler
  05/27/10
Does this apply to me too?
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
hang in there man. i've barely every met a poor middle-aged...
Vermilion church deer antler
  05/27/10
:-)
Chrome indian lodge
  05/27/10
Tuition was like $3k back then, bro.
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
your rigorous cost/benefit to the world is doing a lot in te...
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baby boomers are made from different stuff than we are. they...
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post WWII boom times were not of their own making
Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry
  05/27/10
thanks.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/27/10
maybe so, but dude's odds aren't that long and scary compare...
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cp
aphrodisiac sapphire cuckold
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This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say in...
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rofl hold up. are you serious? boomers are the laziest sacks...
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The legal market was not nearly as saturated/competitive the...
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"When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5...
primrose old irish cottage
  05/27/10
How many people above median at schools 4-18 are getting shu...
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  05/27/10
So what you're saying is that roughly 80% of all law student...
primrose old irish cottage
  05/27/10
not permanently, but doc review and shitlaw are not fun ways...
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even in good times well over 50% were fucked pretty hard. wh...
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Seriously though, what percentage of law grads are completel...
primrose old irish cottage
  05/27/10
...
Crimson nudist shrine toaster
  05/27/10
If you drop out due to that you will be mocked for the rest ...
Misanthropic hospital partner
  05/27/10
I almost dropped out. I told school administrators about my...
Tantric flushed orchestra pit love of her life
  05/27/10
what did the administrators say when you told them?
Wonderful brunch generalized bond
  05/27/10
It's your call, brah.
Tantric flushed orchestra pit love of her life
  05/27/10
What did you end up doing with the degree?
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
This is obvious flame of the crazy people on this board who ...
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sup cls admin. didn't realize you'd be trolling on a thursda...
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DONT YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE YOU STUPID FUCK?! ...
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sadly on the reality spectrum this is closer to reality than...
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Yes, if you're an ugly, aspie cunt who has a congenital need...
glittery cumskin resort
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i'm not the dude insulting randoms on the internet, hth
Crimson nudist shrine toaster
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No, but his transgressions are going to pwn him in life way ...
bearded native
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C'mon we're all assholes to each other here. It's what we d...
glittery cumskin resort
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that's a much more reasonable response
Crimson nudist shrine toaster
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Yeah, well, I shouldn't reward your pusscakery like that. S...
glittery cumskin resort
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What would you advise an even greater nyu failure to do?
Chrome indian lodge
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Bottom 3rd at NYU should be worried that they won't get bigl...
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I didn't do as much networking as I should have 2L year but ...
Chrome indian lodge
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Networking doesn't = going to dumbass cocktail parties at th...
glittery cumskin resort
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Not flame, I assure you. Ask anyone at CLS with similar (or ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
Medianish at CLS is obviously an easy drop-out scenario. Do...
bearded native
  05/27/10
Why would I kill self?
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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Obviously there's no hope and you're debt pwned. You won't ...
bearded native
  05/28/10
Thanks for the encouragement. Killing self over debt would b...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
  05/28/10
I wouldn't give up yet.
Comical green area
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lol 3 years ago you would have gotten Weil or Latham with li...
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I can't worry about that at this point, though. Ironically, ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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The question is why haven't you already?
swashbuckling geriatric senate newt
  05/28/10
See what happens at EIP in August. Your next tuition paymen...
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Have to request that loan $ soonish, though
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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All right, thanks for this.
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...
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Updated to another B. Damn. B,B,B,B+,B+. Feeling prett...
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...
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Elective and one of my core requirements.
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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no, do not drop out!
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xplane
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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stop pussying out. stay the course. you're at a t6 -- youl...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
  06/01/10
i was hoping for more than 100k/yr, though
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very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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you're looking for every excuse to cut bait and run. i s...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
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I did have a job with the poly sci degree. Didn't pay much, ...
very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house
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I give up. I have nothing more to offer you. You seem weak...
Aromatic Really Tough Guy
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Nah, I will stick it out, most likely. I just have too much ...
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masturbate furiously.
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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:54 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

About 60k in debt at CLS.

Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents it is mine when I graduate LS) in debt for a T15 undergrad degree (poly sci-type of degree).

Current grades at CLS: B, B, B+, B+

Three grades still out, but probably similar. I feel like the goal of working in BIGLAW is ending...should I just hedge my bets now and drop out before taking on even more debt?

It's pretty sad. I owned undergrad and thought I would do well in LS, too. I guess I thought wrong. I don't know what to do at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098962)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:55 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

"Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents it is mine when I graduate LS) in debt for a T15 undergrad degree (poly sci-type of degree)."

Uh, you sign the dotted line = it's yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098970)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

It is theirs. They signed it. I did no signing on that one, but I would feel pretty guilty making them continue to pay for it as they go into retirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098979)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

You are a sack of shit for making your parents pay that much for UNDERGRAD when they didn't have the money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098991)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

They encouraged me to go to that school. Typical middle class suburban parents that wanted me to go to the best school into which I got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098998)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

awww

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099009)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Indeed. I mean, the overall plan was pretty vaguely put to me when I entered: father told me I would have to pay for the rest of the debt at some future point, I was not told what was that debt throughout college, and was recently informed how much it would be (80k) and when I would take it myself (post-LS). Obviously, it is in their name, so I have no legal obligation to undertake it, but I would do so, being the good child that I am. I don't want them paying that until they die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099028)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:03 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

You both sound like idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099037)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

That's not very nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099052)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal juggernaut hissy fit

you write like you might be schizoprhenic. have you been tested?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099039)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I have bipolar, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099051)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

Why don't you just live with them and scrape by on BIGDISABILITY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099057)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal juggernaut hissy fit

ingenious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099060)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

It was a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099069)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: razzmatazz national immigrant

"into which I got" 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099015)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:11 PM
Author: Umber mediation quadroon

titcr wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099101)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:12 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

into which I got accepted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099111)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: arousing peach locus gunner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099130)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:18 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

It works fine grammatically. Ask any HS English teacher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099156)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: arousing peach locus gunner

it's a weird combination of stilted english and colloquial use of "get." you should just say "into which i was accepted."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099285)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:37 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

threads are being outsourced to mumbai bro. they didnt just stop with doc review and m&a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099898)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:28 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Normal white guy, here. So sorry you could not understand my English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103302)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: ruby plaza dragon

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105308)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:32 AM
Author: Exhilarant Salmon Garrison

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103333)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: Mauve halford meetinghouse

To be fair, typical for middle class jews and asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099021)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I am neither. Parents are neither.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099031)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:59 PM
Author: mind-boggling business firm community account

fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100989)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

you still have a decent shot of biglaw. do OCI and see what happens. If you fail, we'll open up our own firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098978)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Don't mock me with decent shot, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098982)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

Serious dude. I'm at NYU. got 3 callbacks LAST YEAR with a shittier GPA. This year should be better and you should start mailing firms that don't come to OCI in August. You have a decent shot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098996)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

What ended up happening to you? I thought you didn't get one (I remember the moniker).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099007)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

didn't get one. But I also didn't mail in August like I should have because OCS told me I would be fine. I mailed too late and the firms had already finished hiring. Your GPA is better than mine, I think CLS does a tad bit better than NYU, and I had a terrible resume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099019)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:03 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Not too encouraging, no offense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099036)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

no offense taken. I just think you've got a decent shot, that's all. maybe I'm wrong. I wish you luck though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099054)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099074)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:09 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

what are you going to do now, man? aren't you nervous?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099087)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

Working for the government. Won't lead to a real job. I'm so fucking scared. I will have 200k debt at graduation and my life is fucking ruined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099127)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:18 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Why are you giving me these encouraging words of wisdom, then?!?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099153)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

because I think you have a decent shot. your grades are better than mine and this year should be better than last. Don't get me wrong, I wish I was dead on a daily basis but I think your chances are sufficiently high that going through OCI is a good idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099184)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:23 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

You should consider doing something interesting that will let you have the loans forgiven, even if non-law related. Foreign service (I am aware this is hard to get, given the test) would be ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099196)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

doing foreign services makes my student debt go away? where do I sign up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099201)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

That ten year gov IBR forgiveness program, bro.

As long as you have fed loans...that was my assumption.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099209)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:27 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

I do. but how will I make loan payments in the interim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099226)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:31 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I was under the impression that the entirety of the loan was forgiven. So, if you start in the program two or three years from now, after ten years the interest accrued in the two or three years of minimal payments would also be forgiven. Correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099254)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:39 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

Yeah. I just don't know how i will make 10 years of payments on 200k with a federal government salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099338)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:48 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I thought the program had the gov make the payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099426)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:50 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

well shit I don't know. I thought what you had left after 120 payments was forgiven. I hope I'm wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099440)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:19 PM
Author: adventurous scourge upon the earth

what about those new gov't rules where loan payments don't exceed 10% of your income? does that come into play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099711)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:25 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I think that is post-2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099756)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 11:58 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I also think that is the 25 year IBR or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105083)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:17 PM
Author: Dashing Cream Public Bath Double Fault

I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..

After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...

Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136215)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:18 PM
Author: Dashing Cream Public Bath Double Fault

I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..

After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...

Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136222)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: overrated hell

youre not at UVA or fucking Cardozo. Columbia is still legit. Dont drop out unless you have a solid plan B

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098981)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

*rimshot*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098993)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I don't want to wallow in debt here with bad odds at BIGLAW. No solid backup. Would probably do something like PeaceCorps, but that would obviously never earn $. Foreign service would be cool (and, I am well aware of how difficult that is, thank you).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098995)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: overrated hell

well, if you were not already 100K in the hole, i would tell you to drop out. In fact, I would urge you to drop out. Law is fucking miserable and dead end. But, as the situation stands, you already owe 100K. You will be up to 230ish when you graduate. I say you see it through. Columbia gives you a shot. If not, you can always move to africa, not pay your loans back, and live a solid life there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099024)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

As much as I know that is a joke, I am one of the few people who would actually have no qualms moving abroad and simply not paying. I've lived abroad so often in the past that it would not be a big deal for me.

The only issue is that I would not want to stick my parents with the undergrad debt when they are retired. That is their time to relax. I'd feel too guilty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099048)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:10 PM
Author: overrated hell

I hear you. It's a tough situation. You seem like a cool dude who just wants to do the right thing. If you dont hate law school, or you wont hate being a lawyer, then stick it out. Hussle your ass off, and get something that helps you pay of the 80 grand. Then, either try the IBR thing or leave the country. While Africa was said in jest, leaving the country and not paying back the rest of your loans is the way to go. Especially if you enjoy living abroad. Stay off the grid. Be well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099640)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:11 AM
Author: Claret cruise ship

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103840)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 11:59 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

ty. Living abroad is great. More people should try it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105087)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

i thought a B+ was a good grade. it's almost an A, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099005)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Ha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099011)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: Tantric flushed orchestra pit love of her life

You should drop out if you don't want to be a lawyer or will be a bad one. You have not told us whether either is the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099042)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I wouldn't mind being one in specific practice areas. We'll see after this summer, also, based on the work I do. Obviously, beggars can't be choosers, though. I don't know if I'll be a bad one yet. I guess I will also figure out that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099066)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:12 PM
Author: hairraiser thirsty sanctuary
Subject: 3 grades out

you still have three grades out. Wait until you get those before you consider something rash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099113)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:13 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Yeah, of course. I was just saying if I had similar grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099122)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:10 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Well, ty for the kernels of good advice, here and there. It's appreciated when some people do show a solid effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099097)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle fluffy temple

The answer is obviously to drop out, but sadly you won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099129)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:19 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I am very close to doing this. I probably will, in the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099164)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

You don't have the guts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099229)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:32 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Yeah?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099265)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

can't you go work for the government and have the loans forgiven after ten years?

i don't really get this. there are 10 million people going to LS. how can a guy making B/B+ at one of the best 6 or so schools in the world see his situation as hopeless? what the hell do the people in the other far shittier schools do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099128)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:17 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

If I can get a gov job, yeah. This is a way to have the LS loans forgiven. It wouldn't do anything for the 80k in undergrad, though.

I just don't know if I would enjoy law enough to want to work at 40k/yr for the gov for ten years while using all my disposable income to pay off the undergrad loans and maintaining this sort of job in order to have the loan forgiven (and passing up any jobs that come along that might be more lucrative because of the rules of LRAP or gov. forgiveness). I mean, if I am going to make 40k a year for that purpose, I would much rather go to Asia or something and make 30k/yr doing an easy job like teaching English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099146)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:21 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

yeah. but the CLS degree might come in handy at some point in the future.

i think people are being short-sighted. getting a bigtime credential like that is a once in a lifetime thing. ITE is warping people's perceptions. life is long, and you don't know what will happen in the future -- who knows, Obama could forgive all loans.

i see a lot of people "outsmarting" themselves these days.

if the economy truly tanks, well, we are all fucked, and it will make little difference anyway what debt you have. if it doesn't tank, we'll all be kicking ourselves for the "prudent" choices we've made.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099179)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

0L? Recently migrated from TLS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099203)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:25 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

Might be applicable if law schools were drastically curtailing enrollment, but the opposite is happening. There will be more than enough shitheads in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099218)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:21 PM
Author: indigo pontificating headpube locale

stop freaking out. you're not fucked like last year's grads. the economy's doing much better now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099176)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

(rudolph)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099181)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Firm hiring overwhelmingly predicted to stay the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099186)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

I dont follow. You've solicited advice. People are giving an opinion and you rebut.

If you are going to drop out, drop out.

Just don't pretend to want advice when all you want to do is rationalize aloud what you already are committed to doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099245)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:32 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Just talking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099259)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

PERSONALLY, I think it's worth it to see through an education at CLS, almost regardless of how you do. Chicken littles on XOXO will tell me I'm nuts but I do take a longterm perspective on this and I do believe that you'll be able to get a secondary market biglaw post if you fucking hustle a bit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099279)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

So willing to hustle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099295)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

If this is true, and you're committed to hustling the fuck out of the system (something I dont gather you are from your prior posts), the time is now. Start networking like crazyi in your secondary markets.

THIS YEAR, I saw people with mediocre grades from far shittier law schools get secondary posts in my market. Granted, anecdotes don't go far when you see median kids at CLS or NYU strike out but the point is that you can make your own luck outside of OCI.

Stop listening to XOXO and their chicken little bullshit. Your polisci degree wont get you shit. Your JD will. Give it time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099324)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:49 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Thanks, bro. I'm working in a city this summer that is outside the secondary markets of my home state, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099435)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

That precludes you from sending emails, drawing from your network, making calls, etc.?

you sound lazier than shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099456)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:54 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

No, of course not. I do the e-mail stuff pretty often, to be fair. I have some connections I have used to get general advice in the state's main city, and that has been helpful; I have kept in touch with those people pretty consistently throughout 1L. I went to all the firm events hosted around my school, and I am participating in a few different programs this summer that are meant to create greater 'ties' between certain firms and CLS students. I do all of that. I should probably browse websites and cold e-mail people, too, I guess. I haven't tried that unless I have 1. met the person or 2. been referred to the person by someone I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099489)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:00 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

Fuck formalities. you're past that. you bypassed that when you finished below median. fuck, even if you were above median, Id give you the same advice.

suck it up, leave your pride at home, and start using your network.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099550)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:24 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Advice on cold e-mailing then? How do I approach that situation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099751)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:00 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

please tell me you aren't this fucking clueless.

1. find cls alumni at firm.

2. email said alumni.

3. offer to meet in person/grab coffee to explore career options.

4. when the moment strikes, go over resume (or fuck her/him wild).

5. ??????

6. PROFIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101008)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

To be fair, I hustled pretty hard to get my BIGGOV internship this summer, too. It worked well. I am pretty personable when not wallowing on XOXO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099504)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:03 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

Here's a helpful hint:

Get off XOXO. Get off your ass. Start doing the rounds.

97% of practicing atty would laugh at this thread. Go make your own luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099571)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:27 PM
Author: Marvelous purple parlor nowag

you're fine dude. the real question is why you took out 80K to go to undergrad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099227)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:29 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

See above explanation. Rents told me to go to the top school that accepted me. Told not to worry about the debt. Would be minimal. Did so. Completely owned at the school. Told the debt would be around 80k when I finally took it.

So, in other words, my parents actually took out a lot more than 80k to pay for it and are paying it down TO 80k, when I will take it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099241)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

sticker at a private, classic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099249)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

which school do you think it was?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099280)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

He's from a middle class shittown like Erie, PA so I think he would be impressed with trash like NYU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099292)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:36 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Top 15 nationally ranked university. Not NYU. Not from some town like Eerie, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099303)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:41 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

John's Hopkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099357)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:47 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Not Johnny Hop. Similar caliber.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099416)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 11:38 PM
Author: Exciting Orange Parlour Karate

WUSTL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15102187)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

In a nutshell. The idea that a state school would not be good enough was also indoctrinated during my private school days while a high school student, too.

To be fair, my state's system is pretty crappy, though. I did get SOME money at my priv, but a very minimal amount. Plus, the rents had to pay for my sister's private university, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099291)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

Wouldn't be good enough for who? Because YOU are the one with the bill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099297)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:37 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I just didn't look into the state school system. Nobody really said I should. Not trying to blame others, but I was a pretty naive 17 year old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099317)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: beta tank

LRAP makes it so attending law school can be practically free. Don't bitch and carry on. You have no other prospects as a TTT polisci major in a shitty economy.

If you don't get biglaw, do JAG or public interest for 5-10 years. Stay fit, have meaningful relationships, and enjoy life. You may even be better off for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099242)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:31 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099258)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sapphire cuckold

Exactly. LRAP means you will be perfectly fine debtwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099656)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM
Author: Vermilion church deer antler

you'll get a job eventually - if you can't find anything with a CLS degree, then you have a piece of shit personality and wouldn't have succeeded anywhere. you'll either go govt/public and get the loans off your back before too long, or if you stay in private practice, you'll eventually end up making good money even if you don't start out all models and bottles.

median at a T6 with debt should not be fucking panic mode, even ITE. don't be such a risk averse faggot and go take care of business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099327)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:43 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

Does this apply to me too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099384)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:49 PM
Author: Vermilion church deer antler

hang in there man. i've barely every met a poor middle-aged lawyer, and many of them were extreme TTTs who took on plenty of loans and debt back in there day.

one inspiration dude went to a real toilet, did poorly, had a wife, kids, house, and school debt all at once, and still managed to carve out a career. staying on the field long enough will pay off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099439)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:50 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

:-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099446)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

Tuition was like $3k back then, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099453)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:01 PM
Author: Vermilion church deer antler

your rigorous cost/benefit to the world is doing a lot in terms of getting you out of the basement and living a normal life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099556)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

baby boomers are made from different stuff than we are. they hail from a rougher and readier age. little chance OP has what it takes to pull off what that guy did, little chance at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099461)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: Apoplectic striped hyena cuckoldry

post WWII boom times were not of their own making

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099505)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099510)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:09 PM
Author: Vermilion church deer antler

maybe so, but dude's odds aren't that long and scary compared to many. people balance mortgages, loans, CC debt, kids, and all kinds of other shit. being a single guy with a columbia JD and just school debt isn't the end of the fucking world. only the aspie XO mentality equates this with failing at life.

a T6 law degree is still valuable and will take you somewhere good if you actually want to practice law - that's not just hallmark shit, it's true. like i said, very few people stick with it end up fucked over.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099628)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:33 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sapphire cuckold

cp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099839)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:28 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say in years. Baby boomers in the U.S. did less with more than any group of people in the history of human civilization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101368)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: puce abusive cuck macaca

rofl hold up. are you serious? boomers are the laziest sacks of shit in history. they had everything handed to them on a silver platter you dumb faggot. retire and never come back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101907)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:28 PM
Author: Light fat ankles space

The legal market was not nearly as saturated/competitive then. Most of those extreme TTTs probably aren't retired and new lawyers are being created far faster than new legal work. When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5% of all law students can't get jobs coming out of school, you know the field is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099791)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: primrose old irish cottage

"When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5% of all law students can't get jobs coming out of school, you know the field is fucked."

Not many T6 people with decent grades are getting shut out. If they are, they're targeting like shit or interview like shit. Legal market used to be a lot easier, but it was still a hustle and a TTT was still a TTT. XO fosters a perverted view where law used to be wide open and jobs were awarded like party favors at graduation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099871)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: Light fat ankles space

How many people above median at schools 4-18 are getting shut out? Shitloads, and those people are all easily in the top 5% of law students. In fact, as you creep down towards 18 it's probably the norm to be shut out unless top quarter or better. And even among those who don't get shut out, there are the newly introduced minefields of mass no-offers, deferrals, and rescinded offers. That is fucking bullshit. There is no other profession where going to a school in the top 10% of schools and outperforming the majority of people there leads to such shitty outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099975)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: primrose old irish cottage

So what you're saying is that roughly 80% of all law students graduating will be permanently unemployed and fucked? Shit, that is grim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100016)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

not permanently, but doc review and shitlaw are not fun ways to make a living

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100020)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:19 PM
Author: Light fat ankles space

even in good times well over 50% were fucked pretty hard. what do you think median people at U Miami did?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100468)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:52 PM
Author: primrose old irish cottage

Seriously though, what percentage of law grads are completely fucked? 80% ? 90%? 1/9 or 1/10 law grads won't ever have a real legal career for the next few years? Just trying to get a feel for the market here.

I know you got fucked over, but XO is an echo chamber with this shit, and it's always a little sideways of reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100910)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:46 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099991)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:20 PM
Author: Misanthropic hospital partner

If you drop out due to that you will be mocked for the rest of your life. If you figured out you don't want to be a lawyer, drop out. But don't just drop out 'cuz you can't get BIGLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100494)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:23 PM
Author: Tantric flushed orchestra pit love of her life

I almost dropped out. I told school administrators about my plans, but I finished. I am glad that I did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100522)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:24 PM
Author: Wonderful brunch generalized bond

what did the administrators say when you told them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100538)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Tantric flushed orchestra pit love of her life

It's your call, brah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100545)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:27 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

What did you end up doing with the degree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103292)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:43 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

This is obvious flame of the crazy people on this board who think only top 1/4 at HLS gets biglaw right now. Hypothetically, 3 B+s and no B-s is about 80% to get biglaw at fall OCI. And assuming the economy continues in +GDP territory for the year I would guess 3L OCI would be atypically doable at Columbia in 2011, especially if you take the right courses and manage to pad your GPA up to have a chance at Stone one year.

Also, coming from Columbia you have so many more options. Say you want to do Entertainment law--intern at an entertainment firm/company for a year or two in law school, make connections and you have a very realistic chance to break into a practice area that's virtually impossible to get from, e.g., Texas, Cornell or Georgetown.

Now if all the rest of you people seemingly taking this guy seriously are actually pretending/flaming back, then I'm impressed, although you should've been funnier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100769)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:54 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

sup cls admin. didn't realize you'd be trolling on a thursday night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100932)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:54 PM
Author: primrose old irish cottage

DONT YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE YOU STUPID FUCK?!

ONLY TOP QUARTER AT HYS ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF JOBS AT ALL THE REST OF T14 IS TOP 2% OR DIE. THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 400 REAL LEGAL JOBS IN THE US FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS GET FUCKING REAL AND DIE IN A FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100937)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:55 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

sadly on the reality spectrum this is closer to reality than fantasy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100948)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:18 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

Yes, if you're an ugly, aspie cunt who has a congenital need to complain and feel sorry for himself. So sorry you suck so much at life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101220)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:27 AM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

i'm not the dude insulting randoms on the internet, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103293)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:33 AM
Author: bearded native

No, but his transgressions are going to pwn him in life way less. Get a grip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103341)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:06 AM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

C'mon we're all assholes to each other here. It's what we do. I'm just trying to shake you up a little, and on this board that means I have to go to 11. Also I suspect it's possible that you're median at M/V/P/B and trolling. If you're actually a median student at CCN and you're trying this hard to feel bad about yourself, you should strongly consider not being a lawyer (but in most cases you should still finish law school). It's much more likely that you're dreading the work/lifestyle than the debt burden and you just aren't ready to admit it to yourself. 20 years from now you'll feel retarded that you wasted your 20s crying yourself to sleep every night over an extra 50K of student loans running 5ish% interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103827)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:30 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster

that's a much more reasonable response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105299)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:08 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

Yeah, well, I shouldn't reward your pusscakery like that. Sack up and make something of yourself, Toad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15106105)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:55 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

What would you advise an even greater nyu failure to do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100953)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:15 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

Bottom 3rd at NYU should be worried that they won't get biglaw (though it's not like you shouldn't even bother with OCI). Cultivate a specialty/niche and related contacts over 2L/3L year including an internship/work outside of school. You're a grown up. Figure out something you want to do, focus on that, network and work hard. Don't be a little whiny bitch and expect your teacher to pat you on the head and give you a gold star to make everything better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101185)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:20 PM
Author: Chrome indian lodge

I didn't do as much networking as I should have 2L year but I've decided to quit being a bitch and just fucking do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101256)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:32 PM
Author: glittery cumskin resort

Networking doesn't = going to dumbass cocktail parties at the law school for people who are interested in practicing in X geographic location. It means a) figuring out what you want to do, b) preparing to talk to people in the field so that you can ask them smart questions and demonstrate that you're serious, c) be willing to volunteer to work for free for the right person/firm/company in order to learn how to do it, up to and including for a year after LS. My friends who did this in LS are the people who have the best jobs now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101427)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Not flame, I assure you. Ask anyone at CLS with similar (or worse) grades how he is feeling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105112)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:17 PM
Author: bearded native

Medianish at CLS is obviously an easy drop-out scenario. Don't look back. The only serious question is whether you should kill yourself. I'd start a new thread rather than get a sub-discussion going in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101208)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:23 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Why would I kill self?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103266)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:29 AM
Author: bearded native

Obviously there's no hope and you're debt pwned. You won't be retired by 40, have a hot trophy wife, etc. Why bother?

You'll be fine dood - just hustle, target wisely, and do as much "networking" as you can stomach. You are by no means fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103315)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:33 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Thanks for the encouragement. Killing self over debt would be silly. I would just not pay before it got to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103336)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:10 AM
Author: Comical green area

I wouldn't give up yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103836)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:38 PM
Author: Zombie-like henna feces party of the first part

lol 3 years ago you would have gotten Weil or Latham with little to no difficulty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105337)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I can't worry about that at this point, though. Ironically, three years ago was the summer I used to study for the LSAT while working part-time as a cashier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105430)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: swashbuckling geriatric senate newt

The question is why haven't you already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105461)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:12 PM
Author: dark university marketing idea

See what happens at EIP in August. Your next tuition payment isn't due until September, so you can re-evaluate then. But it's probably not worth it to drop out unless you have something else great lined up already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105478)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:44 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Have to request that loan $ soonish, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15106333)



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Date: May 29th, 2010 1:05 AM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

All right, thanks for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15109664)



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Date: May 29th, 2010 1:11 AM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15109689)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 12:00 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Updated to another B. Damn.

B,B,B,B+,B+.

Feeling pretty hopeless on the BIGLAW front, now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15135131)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138829)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Elective and one of my core requirements.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138835)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 12:00 PM
Author: Frum Address

no, do not drop out!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15135133)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 1:57 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

xplane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136062)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:14 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

stop pussying out. stay the course. you're at a t6 -- youll land something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136189)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:16 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

i was hoping for more than 100k/yr, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136209)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:17 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

oh, hi, chicagolaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136214)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:36 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

you're looking for every excuse to cut bait and run.

i suspect you'll find that your polisci degree will give you precisely a 0% chance at landing a decent job, whereas your law degree gives you a far higher likelihood depending upon how hungry you are.

stop fucking around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136343)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:10 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

I did have a job with the poly sci degree. Didn't pay much, but I did enjoy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138822)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 5:19 AM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

I give up. I have nothing more to offer you. You seem weak willed; I'd suggest you cut your losses since it seems like you don't have the moxy to make it work anyhow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15142869)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

Nah, I will stick it out, most likely. I just have too much time on my hands, at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15143611)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:13 PM
Author: Aromatic Really Tough Guy

masturbate furiously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15143673)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:22 PM
Author: mind-boggling business firm community account

everyone who has posted in this thread is a butt pirate faggot bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138898)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:23 PM
Author: Crimson nudist shrine toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138905)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: very tactful arrogant step-uncle's house

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15139256)



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Date: April 18th, 2011 9:14 PM
Author: Flirting racy lodge athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#17798682)