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Should I Drop Out?

About 60k in debt at CLS. Another 80k (apparently...recen...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
"Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
It is theirs. They signed it. I did no signing on that one, ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
You are a sack of shit for making your parents pay that much...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
They encouraged me to go to that school. Typical middle clas...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
awww
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
Indeed. I mean, the overall plan was pretty vaguely put to m...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
You both sound like idiots.
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
That's not very nice.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
you write like you might be schizoprhenic. have you been tes...
claret provocative parlour
  05/27/10
I have bipolar, actually.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Why don't you just live with them and scrape by on BIGDISABI...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
ingenious
claret provocative parlour
  05/27/10
It was a joke.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
"into which I got" 180
Wonderful cuckoldry
  05/27/10
titcr wtf
Thirsty Lodge
  05/27/10
into which I got accepted.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
180
kink-friendly parlor
  05/27/10
It works fine grammatically. Ask any HS English teacher.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
it's a weird combination of stilted english and colloquial u...
kink-friendly parlor
  05/27/10
threads are being outsourced to mumbai bro. they didnt just ...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/27/10
Normal white guy, here. So sorry you could not understand my...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
lol
jade voyeur
  05/28/10
cr
Fuchsia place of business
  05/28/10
To be fair, typical for middle class jews and asians.
Hot cyan cruise ship dingle berry
  05/27/10
I am neither. Parents are neither.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
fag
ocher odious house filthpig
  05/27/10
you still have a decent shot of biglaw. do OCI and see what ...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Don't mock me with decent shot, bro.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Serious dude. I'm at NYU. got 3 callbacks LAST YEAR with a s...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
What ended up happening to you? I thought you didn't get one...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
didn't get one. But I also didn't mail in August like I shou...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Not too encouraging, no offense.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
no offense taken. I just think you've got a decent shot, tha...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
ty.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
what are you going to do now, man? aren't you nervous?
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
Working for the government. Won't lead to a real job. I'm so...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Why are you giving me these encouraging words of wisdom, the...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
because I think you have a decent shot. your grades are bett...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
You should consider doing something interesting that will le...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
doing foreign services makes my student debt go away? where ...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
That ten year gov IBR forgiveness program, bro. As long a...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
I do. but how will I make loan payments in the interim?
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
I was under the impression that the entirety of the loan was...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Yeah. I just don't know how i will make 10 years of payments...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
I thought the program had the gov make the payments.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
well shit I don't know. I thought what you had left after 12...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
what about those new gov't rules where loan payments don't e...
Amethyst heaven knife
  05/27/10
I think that is post-2014.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
I also think that is the 25 year IBR or something.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
I have asked these types of questions, not only about law sc...
Topaz balding senate community account
  06/01/10
I have asked these types of questions, not only about law sc...
Topaz balding senate community account
  06/01/10
youre not at UVA or fucking Cardozo. Columbia is still legi...
diverse obsidian station selfie
  05/27/10
*rimshot*
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
I don't want to wallow in debt here with bad odds at BIGLAW....
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
well, if you were not already 100K in the hole, i would tell...
diverse obsidian station selfie
  05/27/10
As much as I know that is a joke, I am one of the few people...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
I hear you. It's a tough situation. You seem like a cool dud...
diverse obsidian station selfie
  05/27/10
tcr
aggressive aphrodisiac macaca
  05/28/10
ty. Living abroad is great. More people should try it.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
i thought a B+ was a good grade. it's almost an A, right?
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
Ha.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
You should drop out if you don't want to be a lawyer or will...
Turquoise point
  05/27/10
I wouldn't mind being one in specific practice areas. We'll ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
3 grades out
mint university halford
  05/27/10
Yeah, of course. I was just saying if I had similar grades.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Well, ty for the kernels of good advice, here and there. It'...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
The answer is obviously to drop out, but sadly you won't.
awkward big immigrant
  05/27/10
I am very close to doing this. I probably will, in the end.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
You don't have the guts.
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
Yeah?
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
can't you go work for the government and have the loans forg...
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
If I can get a gov job, yeah. This is a way to have the LS l...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
yeah. but the CLS degree might come in handy at some point i...
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
0L? Recently migrated from TLS?
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Might be applicable if law schools were drastically curtaili...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
stop freaking out. you're not fucked like last year's grads....
Thriller stage travel guidebook
  05/27/10
(rudolph)
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
Firm hiring overwhelmingly predicted to stay the same.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
I dont follow. You've solicited advice. People are giving ...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
Just talking.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
PERSONALLY, I think it's worth it to see through an educatio...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
So willing to hustle.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
If this is true, and you're committed to hustling the fuck o...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
Thanks, bro. I'm working in a city this summer that is outsi...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
That precludes you from sending emails, drawing from your ne...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
No, of course not. I do the e-mail stuff pretty often, to be...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Fuck formalities. you're past that. you bypassed that when...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
Advice on cold e-mailing then? How do I approach that situat...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
please tell me you aren't this fucking clueless. 1. fi...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
To be fair, I hustled pretty hard to get my BIGGOV internshi...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Here's a helpful hint: Get off XOXO. Get off your ass. ...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
you're fine dude. the real question is why you took out 80K ...
Cerebral fat ankles
  05/27/10
See above explanation. Rents told me to go to the top school...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
sticker at a private, classic
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
which school do you think it was?
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
He's from a middle class shittown like Erie, PA so I think h...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
Top 15 nationally ranked university. Not NYU. Not from some ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
John's Hopkins?
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
Not Johnny Hop. Similar caliber.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
WUSTL.
slate idiotic private investor
  05/27/10
In a nutshell. The idea that a state school would not be goo...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
Wouldn't be good enough for who? Because YOU are the one wit...
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
I just didn't look into the state school system. Nobody real...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
LRAP makes it so attending law school can be practically fre...
cocky stag film famous landscape painting
  05/27/10
tcr
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  05/27/10
Exactly. LRAP means you will be perfectly fine debtwise.
Learning disabled vigorous bawdyhouse
  05/27/10
you'll get a job eventually - if you can't find anything wit...
metal transparent plaza elastic band
  05/27/10
Does this apply to me too?
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
hang in there man. i've barely every met a poor middle-aged...
metal transparent plaza elastic band
  05/27/10
:-)
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Tuition was like $3k back then, bro.
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
your rigorous cost/benefit to the world is doing a lot in te...
metal transparent plaza elastic band
  05/27/10
baby boomers are made from different stuff than we are. they...
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
post WWII boom times were not of their own making
Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor
  05/27/10
thanks.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/27/10
maybe so, but dude's odds aren't that long and scary compare...
metal transparent plaza elastic band
  05/27/10
cp
Learning disabled vigorous bawdyhouse
  05/27/10
This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say in...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/27/10
rofl hold up. are you serious? boomers are the laziest sacks...
titillating casino
  05/27/10
The legal market was not nearly as saturated/competitive the...
dun contagious range
  05/27/10
"When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5...
Doobsian Insane Corner
  05/27/10
How many people above median at schools 4-18 are getting shu...
dun contagious range
  05/27/10
So what you're saying is that roughly 80% of all law student...
Doobsian Insane Corner
  05/27/10
not permanently, but doc review and shitlaw are not fun ways...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/27/10
even in good times well over 50% were fucked pretty hard. wh...
dun contagious range
  05/27/10
Seriously though, what percentage of law grads are completel...
Doobsian Insane Corner
  05/27/10
...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/27/10
If you drop out due to that you will be mocked for the rest ...
embarrassed to the bone pink love of her life ticket booth
  05/27/10
I almost dropped out. I told school administrators about my...
Turquoise point
  05/27/10
what did the administrators say when you told them?
frisky azure new version
  05/27/10
It's your call, brah.
Turquoise point
  05/27/10
What did you end up doing with the degree?
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
This is obvious flame of the crazy people on this board who ...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/27/10
sup cls admin. didn't realize you'd be trolling on a thursda...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/27/10
DONT YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE YOU STUPID FUCK?! ...
Doobsian Insane Corner
  05/27/10
sadly on the reality spectrum this is closer to reality than...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/27/10
Yes, if you're an ugly, aspie cunt who has a congenital need...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/27/10
i'm not the dude insulting randoms on the internet, hth
bright electric furnace persian
  05/28/10
No, but his transgressions are going to pwn him in life way ...
Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler
  05/28/10
C'mon we're all assholes to each other here. It's what we d...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/28/10
that's a much more reasonable response
bright electric furnace persian
  05/28/10
Yeah, well, I shouldn't reward your pusscakery like that. S...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/28/10
What would you advise an even greater nyu failure to do?
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Bottom 3rd at NYU should be worried that they won't get bigl...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/27/10
I didn't do as much networking as I should have 2L year but ...
geriatric public bath police squad
  05/27/10
Networking doesn't = going to dumbass cocktail parties at th...
splenetic spectacular affirmative action
  05/27/10
Not flame, I assure you. Ask anyone at CLS with similar (or ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
Medianish at CLS is obviously an easy drop-out scenario. Do...
Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler
  05/27/10
Why would I kill self?
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
Obviously there's no hope and you're debt pwned. You won't ...
Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler
  05/28/10
Thanks for the encouragement. Killing self over debt would b...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
I wouldn't give up yet.
nighttime very tactful locale weed whacker
  05/28/10
lol 3 years ago you would have gotten Weil or Latham with li...
Fragrant State Roommate
  05/28/10
I can't worry about that at this point, though. Ironically, ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
The question is why haven't you already?
Irradiated disgusting mother
  05/28/10
See what happens at EIP in August. Your next tuition paymen...
Lavender know-it-all mexican
  05/28/10
Have to request that loan $ soonish, though
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/28/10
All right, thanks for this.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  05/29/10
...
bright electric furnace persian
  05/29/10
Updated to another B. Damn. B,B,B,B+,B+. Feeling prett...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
...
bright electric furnace persian
  06/01/10
Elective and one of my core requirements.
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
no, do not drop out!
Vengeful Boiling Water Quadroon
  06/01/10
xplane
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
stop pussying out. stay the course. you're at a t6 -- youl...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  06/01/10
i was hoping for more than 100k/yr, though
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
oh, hi, chicagolaw
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
you're looking for every excuse to cut bait and run. i s...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  06/01/10
I did have a job with the poly sci degree. Didn't pay much, ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
I give up. I have nothing more to offer you. You seem weak...
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  06/02/10
Nah, I will stick it out, most likely. I just have too much ...
Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/02/10
masturbate furiously.
Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate
  06/02/10
everyone who has posted in this thread is a butt pirate fagg...
ocher odious house filthpig
  06/01/10
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bright electric furnace persian
  06/01/10
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Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter
  06/01/10
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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:54 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

About 60k in debt at CLS.

Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents it is mine when I graduate LS) in debt for a T15 undergrad degree (poly sci-type of degree).

Current grades at CLS: B, B, B+, B+

Three grades still out, but probably similar. I feel like the goal of working in BIGLAW is ending...should I just hedge my bets now and drop out before taking on even more debt?

It's pretty sad. I owned undergrad and thought I would do well in LS, too. I guess I thought wrong. I don't know what to do at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098962)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:55 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

"Another 80k (apparently...recently informed by parents it is mine when I graduate LS) in debt for a T15 undergrad degree (poly sci-type of degree)."

Uh, you sign the dotted line = it's yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098970)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

It is theirs. They signed it. I did no signing on that one, but I would feel pretty guilty making them continue to pay for it as they go into retirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098979)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

You are a sack of shit for making your parents pay that much for UNDERGRAD when they didn't have the money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098991)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

They encouraged me to go to that school. Typical middle class suburban parents that wanted me to go to the best school into which I got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098998)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

awww

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099009)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Indeed. I mean, the overall plan was pretty vaguely put to me when I entered: father told me I would have to pay for the rest of the debt at some future point, I was not told what was that debt throughout college, and was recently informed how much it would be (80k) and when I would take it myself (post-LS). Obviously, it is in their name, so I have no legal obligation to undertake it, but I would do so, being the good child that I am. I don't want them paying that until they die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099028)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:03 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

You both sound like idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099037)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

That's not very nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099052)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: claret provocative parlour

you write like you might be schizoprhenic. have you been tested?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099039)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I have bipolar, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099051)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

Why don't you just live with them and scrape by on BIGDISABILITY?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099057)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: claret provocative parlour

ingenious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099060)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

It was a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099069)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: Wonderful cuckoldry

"into which I got" 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099015)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:11 PM
Author: Thirsty Lodge

titcr wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099101)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:12 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

into which I got accepted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099111)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: kink-friendly parlor

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099130)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:18 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

It works fine grammatically. Ask any HS English teacher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099156)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: kink-friendly parlor

it's a weird combination of stilted english and colloquial use of "get." you should just say "into which i was accepted."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099285)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:37 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

threads are being outsourced to mumbai bro. they didnt just stop with doc review and m&a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099898)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:28 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Normal white guy, here. So sorry you could not understand my English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103302)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: jade voyeur

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105308)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:32 AM
Author: Fuchsia place of business

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103333)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: Hot cyan cruise ship dingle berry

To be fair, typical for middle class jews and asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099021)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I am neither. Parents are neither.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099031)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:59 PM
Author: ocher odious house filthpig

fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100989)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

you still have a decent shot of biglaw. do OCI and see what happens. If you fail, we'll open up our own firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098978)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Don't mock me with decent shot, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098982)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

Serious dude. I'm at NYU. got 3 callbacks LAST YEAR with a shittier GPA. This year should be better and you should start mailing firms that don't come to OCI in August. You have a decent shot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098996)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

What ended up happening to you? I thought you didn't get one (I remember the moniker).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099007)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

didn't get one. But I also didn't mail in August like I should have because OCS told me I would be fine. I mailed too late and the firms had already finished hiring. Your GPA is better than mine, I think CLS does a tad bit better than NYU, and I had a terrible resume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099019)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:03 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Not too encouraging, no offense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099036)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

no offense taken. I just think you've got a decent shot, that's all. maybe I'm wrong. I wish you luck though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099054)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099074)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:09 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

what are you going to do now, man? aren't you nervous?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099087)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

Working for the government. Won't lead to a real job. I'm so fucking scared. I will have 200k debt at graduation and my life is fucking ruined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099127)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:18 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Why are you giving me these encouraging words of wisdom, then?!?!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099153)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

because I think you have a decent shot. your grades are better than mine and this year should be better than last. Don't get me wrong, I wish I was dead on a daily basis but I think your chances are sufficiently high that going through OCI is a good idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099184)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:23 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

You should consider doing something interesting that will let you have the loans forgiven, even if non-law related. Foreign service (I am aware this is hard to get, given the test) would be ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099196)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

doing foreign services makes my student debt go away? where do I sign up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099201)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

That ten year gov IBR forgiveness program, bro.

As long as you have fed loans...that was my assumption.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099209)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:27 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

I do. but how will I make loan payments in the interim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099226)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:31 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I was under the impression that the entirety of the loan was forgiven. So, if you start in the program two or three years from now, after ten years the interest accrued in the two or three years of minimal payments would also be forgiven. Correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099254)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:39 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

Yeah. I just don't know how i will make 10 years of payments on 200k with a federal government salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099338)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:48 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I thought the program had the gov make the payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099426)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:50 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

well shit I don't know. I thought what you had left after 120 payments was forgiven. I hope I'm wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099440)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:19 PM
Author: Amethyst heaven knife

what about those new gov't rules where loan payments don't exceed 10% of your income? does that come into play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099711)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:25 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I think that is post-2014.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099756)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 11:58 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I also think that is the 25 year IBR or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105083)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:17 PM
Author: Topaz balding senate community account

I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..

After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...

Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136215)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:18 PM
Author: Topaz balding senate community account

I have asked these types of questions, not only about law school but other shitty things that were not working out for me ..

After all these years, I feel that, whenever you're asking this type of question "should I drop out?" "should I quit this job?", etc., usually you already know you should, you just feel bad about the time and money you already spent ...

Fucking drop out. I had met kids who dropped out of LS after first year, I kinda thought they were losers and quitters, but in hindsight, they had the maturity to decide what was in their best interest, never mind what other kids, their parents were telling them ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136222)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: diverse obsidian station selfie

youre not at UVA or fucking Cardozo. Columbia is still legit. Dont drop out unless you have a solid plan B

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098981)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

*rimshot*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098993)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I don't want to wallow in debt here with bad odds at BIGLAW. No solid backup. Would probably do something like PeaceCorps, but that would obviously never earn $. Foreign service would be cool (and, I am well aware of how difficult that is, thank you).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15098995)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: diverse obsidian station selfie

well, if you were not already 100K in the hole, i would tell you to drop out. In fact, I would urge you to drop out. Law is fucking miserable and dead end. But, as the situation stands, you already owe 100K. You will be up to 230ish when you graduate. I say you see it through. Columbia gives you a shot. If not, you can always move to africa, not pay your loans back, and live a solid life there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099024)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

As much as I know that is a joke, I am one of the few people who would actually have no qualms moving abroad and simply not paying. I've lived abroad so often in the past that it would not be a big deal for me.

The only issue is that I would not want to stick my parents with the undergrad debt when they are retired. That is their time to relax. I'd feel too guilty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099048)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:10 PM
Author: diverse obsidian station selfie

I hear you. It's a tough situation. You seem like a cool dude who just wants to do the right thing. If you dont hate law school, or you wont hate being a lawyer, then stick it out. Hussle your ass off, and get something that helps you pay of the 80 grand. Then, either try the IBR thing or leave the country. While Africa was said in jest, leaving the country and not paying back the rest of your loans is the way to go. Especially if you enjoy living abroad. Stay off the grid. Be well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099640)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:11 AM
Author: aggressive aphrodisiac macaca

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103840)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 11:59 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

ty. Living abroad is great. More people should try it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105087)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

i thought a B+ was a good grade. it's almost an A, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099005)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Ha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099011)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: Turquoise point

You should drop out if you don't want to be a lawyer or will be a bad one. You have not told us whether either is the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099042)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:07 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I wouldn't mind being one in specific practice areas. We'll see after this summer, also, based on the work I do. Obviously, beggars can't be choosers, though. I don't know if I'll be a bad one yet. I guess I will also figure out that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099066)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:12 PM
Author: mint university halford
Subject: 3 grades out

you still have three grades out. Wait until you get those before you consider something rash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099113)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:13 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Yeah, of course. I was just saying if I had similar grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099122)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:10 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Well, ty for the kernels of good advice, here and there. It's appreciated when some people do show a solid effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099097)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: awkward big immigrant

The answer is obviously to drop out, but sadly you won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099129)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:19 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I am very close to doing this. I probably will, in the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099164)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

You don't have the guts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099229)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:32 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Yeah?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099265)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

can't you go work for the government and have the loans forgiven after ten years?

i don't really get this. there are 10 million people going to LS. how can a guy making B/B+ at one of the best 6 or so schools in the world see his situation as hopeless? what the hell do the people in the other far shittier schools do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099128)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:17 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

If I can get a gov job, yeah. This is a way to have the LS loans forgiven. It wouldn't do anything for the 80k in undergrad, though.

I just don't know if I would enjoy law enough to want to work at 40k/yr for the gov for ten years while using all my disposable income to pay off the undergrad loans and maintaining this sort of job in order to have the loan forgiven (and passing up any jobs that come along that might be more lucrative because of the rules of LRAP or gov. forgiveness). I mean, if I am going to make 40k a year for that purpose, I would much rather go to Asia or something and make 30k/yr doing an easy job like teaching English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099146)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:21 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

yeah. but the CLS degree might come in handy at some point in the future.

i think people are being short-sighted. getting a bigtime credential like that is a once in a lifetime thing. ITE is warping people's perceptions. life is long, and you don't know what will happen in the future -- who knows, Obama could forgive all loans.

i see a lot of people "outsmarting" themselves these days.

if the economy truly tanks, well, we are all fucked, and it will make little difference anyway what debt you have. if it doesn't tank, we'll all be kicking ourselves for the "prudent" choices we've made.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099179)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:24 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

0L? Recently migrated from TLS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099203)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:25 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

Might be applicable if law schools were drastically curtailing enrollment, but the opposite is happening. There will be more than enough shitheads in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099218)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:21 PM
Author: Thriller stage travel guidebook

stop freaking out. you're not fucked like last year's grads. the economy's doing much better now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099176)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

(rudolph)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099181)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:22 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Firm hiring overwhelmingly predicted to stay the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099186)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

I dont follow. You've solicited advice. People are giving an opinion and you rebut.

If you are going to drop out, drop out.

Just don't pretend to want advice when all you want to do is rationalize aloud what you already are committed to doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099245)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:32 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Just talking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099259)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

PERSONALLY, I think it's worth it to see through an education at CLS, almost regardless of how you do. Chicken littles on XOXO will tell me I'm nuts but I do take a longterm perspective on this and I do believe that you'll be able to get a secondary market biglaw post if you fucking hustle a bit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099279)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

So willing to hustle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099295)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

If this is true, and you're committed to hustling the fuck out of the system (something I dont gather you are from your prior posts), the time is now. Start networking like crazyi in your secondary markets.

THIS YEAR, I saw people with mediocre grades from far shittier law schools get secondary posts in my market. Granted, anecdotes don't go far when you see median kids at CLS or NYU strike out but the point is that you can make your own luck outside of OCI.

Stop listening to XOXO and their chicken little bullshit. Your polisci degree wont get you shit. Your JD will. Give it time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099324)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:49 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Thanks, bro. I'm working in a city this summer that is outside the secondary markets of my home state, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099435)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

That precludes you from sending emails, drawing from your network, making calls, etc.?

you sound lazier than shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099456)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:54 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

No, of course not. I do the e-mail stuff pretty often, to be fair. I have some connections I have used to get general advice in the state's main city, and that has been helpful; I have kept in touch with those people pretty consistently throughout 1L. I went to all the firm events hosted around my school, and I am participating in a few different programs this summer that are meant to create greater 'ties' between certain firms and CLS students. I do all of that. I should probably browse websites and cold e-mail people, too, I guess. I haven't tried that unless I have 1. met the person or 2. been referred to the person by someone I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099489)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:00 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

Fuck formalities. you're past that. you bypassed that when you finished below median. fuck, even if you were above median, Id give you the same advice.

suck it up, leave your pride at home, and start using your network.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099550)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:24 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Advice on cold e-mailing then? How do I approach that situation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099751)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:00 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

please tell me you aren't this fucking clueless.

1. find cls alumni at firm.

2. email said alumni.

3. offer to meet in person/grab coffee to explore career options.

4. when the moment strikes, go over resume (or fuck her/him wild).

5. ??????

6. PROFIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101008)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

To be fair, I hustled pretty hard to get my BIGGOV internship this summer, too. It worked well. I am pretty personable when not wallowing on XOXO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099504)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

Here's a helpful hint:

Get off XOXO. Get off your ass. Start doing the rounds.

97% of practicing atty would laugh at this thread. Go make your own luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099571)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:27 PM
Author: Cerebral fat ankles

you're fine dude. the real question is why you took out 80K to go to undergrad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099227)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:29 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

See above explanation. Rents told me to go to the top school that accepted me. Told not to worry about the debt. Would be minimal. Did so. Completely owned at the school. Told the debt would be around 80k when I finally took it.

So, in other words, my parents actually took out a lot more than 80k to pay for it and are paying it down TO 80k, when I will take it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099241)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

sticker at a private, classic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099249)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:34 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

which school do you think it was?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099280)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

He's from a middle class shittown like Erie, PA so I think he would be impressed with trash like NYU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099292)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:36 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Top 15 nationally ranked university. Not NYU. Not from some town like Eerie, either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099303)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:41 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

John's Hopkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099357)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:47 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Not Johnny Hop. Similar caliber.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099416)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 11:38 PM
Author: slate idiotic private investor

WUSTL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15102187)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

In a nutshell. The idea that a state school would not be good enough was also indoctrinated during my private school days while a high school student, too.

To be fair, my state's system is pretty crappy, though. I did get SOME money at my priv, but a very minimal amount. Plus, the rents had to pay for my sister's private university, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099291)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

Wouldn't be good enough for who? Because YOU are the one with the bill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099297)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:37 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I just didn't look into the state school system. Nobody really said I should. Not trying to blame others, but I was a pretty naive 17 year old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099317)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:30 PM
Author: cocky stag film famous landscape painting

LRAP makes it so attending law school can be practically free. Don't bitch and carry on. You have no other prospects as a TTT polisci major in a shitty economy.

If you don't get biglaw, do JAG or public interest for 5-10 years. Stay fit, have meaningful relationships, and enjoy life. You may even be better off for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099242)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:31 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099258)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: Learning disabled vigorous bawdyhouse

Exactly. LRAP means you will be perfectly fine debtwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099656)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:38 PM
Author: metal transparent plaza elastic band

you'll get a job eventually - if you can't find anything with a CLS degree, then you have a piece of shit personality and wouldn't have succeeded anywhere. you'll either go govt/public and get the loans off your back before too long, or if you stay in private practice, you'll eventually end up making good money even if you don't start out all models and bottles.

median at a T6 with debt should not be fucking panic mode, even ITE. don't be such a risk averse faggot and go take care of business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099327)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:43 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

Does this apply to me too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099384)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:49 PM
Author: metal transparent plaza elastic band

hang in there man. i've barely every met a poor middle-aged lawyer, and many of them were extreme TTTs who took on plenty of loans and debt back in there day.

one inspiration dude went to a real toilet, did poorly, had a wife, kids, house, and school debt all at once, and still managed to carve out a career. staying on the field long enough will pay off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099439)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:50 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

:-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099446)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

Tuition was like $3k back then, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099453)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:01 PM
Author: metal transparent plaza elastic band

your rigorous cost/benefit to the world is doing a lot in terms of getting you out of the basement and living a normal life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099556)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:51 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

baby boomers are made from different stuff than we are. they hail from a rougher and readier age. little chance OP has what it takes to pull off what that guy did, little chance at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099461)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: Excitant Messiness Fortuitous Meteor

post WWII boom times were not of their own making

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099505)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 7:56 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099510)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:09 PM
Author: metal transparent plaza elastic band

maybe so, but dude's odds aren't that long and scary compared to many. people balance mortgages, loans, CC debt, kids, and all kinds of other shit. being a single guy with a columbia JD and just school debt isn't the end of the fucking world. only the aspie XO mentality equates this with failing at life.

a T6 law degree is still valuable and will take you somewhere good if you actually want to practice law - that's not just hallmark shit, it's true. like i said, very few people stick with it end up fucked over.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099628)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:33 PM
Author: Learning disabled vigorous bawdyhouse

cp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099839)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:28 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

This is literally the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say in years. Baby boomers in the U.S. did less with more than any group of people in the history of human civilization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101368)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: titillating casino

rofl hold up. are you serious? boomers are the laziest sacks of shit in history. they had everything handed to them on a silver platter you dumb faggot. retire and never come back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101907)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:28 PM
Author: dun contagious range

The legal market was not nearly as saturated/competitive then. Most of those extreme TTTs probably aren't retired and new lawyers are being created far faster than new legal work. When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5% of all law students can't get jobs coming out of school, you know the field is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099791)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: Doobsian Insane Corner

"When people whose school/grades puts them in the top 5% of all law students can't get jobs coming out of school, you know the field is fucked."

Not many T6 people with decent grades are getting shut out. If they are, they're targeting like shit or interview like shit. Legal market used to be a lot easier, but it was still a hustle and a TTT was still a TTT. XO fosters a perverted view where law used to be wide open and jobs were awarded like party favors at graduation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099871)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:45 PM
Author: dun contagious range

How many people above median at schools 4-18 are getting shut out? Shitloads, and those people are all easily in the top 5% of law students. In fact, as you creep down towards 18 it's probably the norm to be shut out unless top quarter or better. And even among those who don't get shut out, there are the newly introduced minefields of mass no-offers, deferrals, and rescinded offers. That is fucking bullshit. There is no other profession where going to a school in the top 10% of schools and outperforming the majority of people there leads to such shitty outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099975)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:48 PM
Author: Doobsian Insane Corner

So what you're saying is that roughly 80% of all law students graduating will be permanently unemployed and fucked? Shit, that is grim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100016)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

not permanently, but doc review and shitlaw are not fun ways to make a living

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100020)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:19 PM
Author: dun contagious range

even in good times well over 50% were fucked pretty hard. what do you think median people at U Miami did?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100468)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:52 PM
Author: Doobsian Insane Corner

Seriously though, what percentage of law grads are completely fucked? 80% ? 90%? 1/9 or 1/10 law grads won't ever have a real legal career for the next few years? Just trying to get a feel for the market here.

I know you got fucked over, but XO is an echo chamber with this shit, and it's always a little sideways of reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100910)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 8:46 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15099991)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:20 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone pink love of her life ticket booth

If you drop out due to that you will be mocked for the rest of your life. If you figured out you don't want to be a lawyer, drop out. But don't just drop out 'cuz you can't get BIGLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100494)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:23 PM
Author: Turquoise point

I almost dropped out. I told school administrators about my plans, but I finished. I am glad that I did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100522)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:24 PM
Author: frisky azure new version

what did the administrators say when you told them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100538)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Turquoise point

It's your call, brah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100545)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:27 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

What did you end up doing with the degree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103292)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:43 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

This is obvious flame of the crazy people on this board who think only top 1/4 at HLS gets biglaw right now. Hypothetically, 3 B+s and no B-s is about 80% to get biglaw at fall OCI. And assuming the economy continues in +GDP territory for the year I would guess 3L OCI would be atypically doable at Columbia in 2011, especially if you take the right courses and manage to pad your GPA up to have a chance at Stone one year.

Also, coming from Columbia you have so many more options. Say you want to do Entertainment law--intern at an entertainment firm/company for a year or two in law school, make connections and you have a very realistic chance to break into a practice area that's virtually impossible to get from, e.g., Texas, Cornell or Georgetown.

Now if all the rest of you people seemingly taking this guy seriously are actually pretending/flaming back, then I'm impressed, although you should've been funnier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100769)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:54 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

sup cls admin. didn't realize you'd be trolling on a thursday night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100932)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:54 PM
Author: Doobsian Insane Corner

DONT YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE YOU STUPID FUCK?!

ONLY TOP QUARTER AT HYS ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF JOBS AT ALL THE REST OF T14 IS TOP 2% OR DIE. THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 400 REAL LEGAL JOBS IN THE US FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS GET FUCKING REAL AND DIE IN A FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100937)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:55 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

sadly on the reality spectrum this is closer to reality than fantasy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100948)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:18 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

Yes, if you're an ugly, aspie cunt who has a congenital need to complain and feel sorry for himself. So sorry you suck so much at life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101220)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:27 AM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

i'm not the dude insulting randoms on the internet, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103293)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:33 AM
Author: Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler

No, but his transgressions are going to pwn him in life way less. Get a grip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103341)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:06 AM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

C'mon we're all assholes to each other here. It's what we do. I'm just trying to shake you up a little, and on this board that means I have to go to 11. Also I suspect it's possible that you're median at M/V/P/B and trolling. If you're actually a median student at CCN and you're trying this hard to feel bad about yourself, you should strongly consider not being a lawyer (but in most cases you should still finish law school). It's much more likely that you're dreading the work/lifestyle than the debt burden and you just aren't ready to admit it to yourself. 20 years from now you'll feel retarded that you wasted your 20s crying yourself to sleep every night over an extra 50K of student loans running 5ish% interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103827)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:30 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian

that's a much more reasonable response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105299)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:08 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

Yeah, well, I shouldn't reward your pusscakery like that. Sack up and make something of yourself, Toad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15106105)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 9:55 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

What would you advise an even greater nyu failure to do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15100953)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:15 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

Bottom 3rd at NYU should be worried that they won't get biglaw (though it's not like you shouldn't even bother with OCI). Cultivate a specialty/niche and related contacts over 2L/3L year including an internship/work outside of school. You're a grown up. Figure out something you want to do, focus on that, network and work hard. Don't be a little whiny bitch and expect your teacher to pat you on the head and give you a gold star to make everything better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101185)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:20 PM
Author: geriatric public bath police squad

I didn't do as much networking as I should have 2L year but I've decided to quit being a bitch and just fucking do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101256)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:32 PM
Author: splenetic spectacular affirmative action

Networking doesn't = going to dumbass cocktail parties at the law school for people who are interested in practicing in X geographic location. It means a) figuring out what you want to do, b) preparing to talk to people in the field so that you can ask them smart questions and demonstrate that you're serious, c) be willing to volunteer to work for free for the right person/firm/company in order to learn how to do it, up to and including for a year after LS. My friends who did this in LS are the people who have the best jobs now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101427)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Not flame, I assure you. Ask anyone at CLS with similar (or worse) grades how he is feeling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105112)



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Date: May 27th, 2010 10:17 PM
Author: Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler

Medianish at CLS is obviously an easy drop-out scenario. Don't look back. The only serious question is whether you should kill yourself. I'd start a new thread rather than get a sub-discussion going in here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15101208)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:23 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Why would I kill self?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103266)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:29 AM
Author: Motley Lime Shrine Deer Antler

Obviously there's no hope and you're debt pwned. You won't be retired by 40, have a hot trophy wife, etc. Why bother?

You'll be fine dood - just hustle, target wisely, and do as much "networking" as you can stomach. You are by no means fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103315)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:33 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Thanks for the encouragement. Killing self over debt would be silly. I would just not pay before it got to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103336)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:10 AM
Author: nighttime very tactful locale weed whacker

I wouldn't give up yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15103836)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:38 PM
Author: Fragrant State Roommate

lol 3 years ago you would have gotten Weil or Latham with little to no difficulty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105337)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I can't worry about that at this point, though. Ironically, three years ago was the summer I used to study for the LSAT while working part-time as a cashier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105430)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: Irradiated disgusting mother

The question is why haven't you already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105461)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 1:12 PM
Author: Lavender know-it-all mexican

See what happens at EIP in August. Your next tuition payment isn't due until September, so you can re-evaluate then. But it's probably not worth it to drop out unless you have something else great lined up already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15105478)



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Date: May 28th, 2010 3:44 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Have to request that loan $ soonish, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15106333)



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Date: May 29th, 2010 1:05 AM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

All right, thanks for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15109664)



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Date: May 29th, 2010 1:11 AM
Author: bright electric furnace persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15109689)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 12:00 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Updated to another B. Damn.

B,B,B,B+,B+.

Feeling pretty hopeless on the BIGLAW front, now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15135131)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138829)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:12 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Elective and one of my core requirements.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138835)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 12:00 PM
Author: Vengeful Boiling Water Quadroon

no, do not drop out!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15135133)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 1:57 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

xplane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136062)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:14 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

stop pussying out. stay the course. you're at a t6 -- youll land something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136189)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:16 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

i was hoping for more than 100k/yr, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136209)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:17 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

oh, hi, chicagolaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136214)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 2:36 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

you're looking for every excuse to cut bait and run.

i suspect you'll find that your polisci degree will give you precisely a 0% chance at landing a decent job, whereas your law degree gives you a far higher likelihood depending upon how hungry you are.

stop fucking around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15136343)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:10 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

I did have a job with the poly sci degree. Didn't pay much, but I did enjoy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138822)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 5:19 AM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

I give up. I have nothing more to offer you. You seem weak willed; I'd suggest you cut your losses since it seems like you don't have the moxy to make it work anyhow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15142869)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

Nah, I will stick it out, most likely. I just have too much time on my hands, at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15143611)



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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:13 PM
Author: Hairraiser Step-uncle's House Degenerate

masturbate furiously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15143673)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:22 PM
Author: ocher odious house filthpig

everyone who has posted in this thread is a butt pirate faggot bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138898)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:23 PM
Author: bright electric furnace persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15138905)



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Date: June 1st, 2010 8:58 PM
Author: Grizzly crackhouse faggot firefighter

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#15139256)



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Date: April 18th, 2011 9:14 PM
Author: Ultramarine Insanely Creepy Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1323043&forum_id=2#17798682)