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normal to have nothing to do after soft-firing?
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:02 PM Author: boyish toaster So I'm a 4th year and getting nudged out. People seem to like me fine, personally, but in the last eval got "not sure it's the right fit", and "start thinking about your career after here"
No deadline or anything. And I am looking. It's been a month and I've started the interview gauntlet. Meanwhile I have nothing to do. NOTHING. Like, I've billed 10 hours of catch-up work all month and nothing else. Have started not coming in at all most days.
Is this normal? Are they trying to make it easier for me to leave? Make me a pariah so that it happens faster? I was pretty busy before this, and my group's fairly busy, and suddenly, no new deals for me.
It's kind of awkward cause people are starting to notice :-/ Can't decide if I love the freedom or hate the awkwardness. |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 10:24 PM Author: mint reading party How did this happen? I don't understand why they would fire you if you were producing enough billable hours for them. Makes no sense to me, especially if your reviews were good. Were you kind of expecting this (work started to slow down before review, etc) or did this totally come out of the left field?
I wonder how other people in your group know not to give you work. I hope they don't broadcast your firing to the whole group. You said you were well liked, don't other senior associates just walk up to you and give you work? |
Date: May 16th, 2013 7:03 PM Author: jade regret Don't let the door hit you on your way out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23212224) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:04 PM Author: duck-like dog poop Why would they trust anything to you when they expect you to bail any day? I think it's just protection for them, not something malicious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23212229) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:04 PM Author: soggy headpube wrinkle Hi, yes this is normal (it was for me) but you got 6 months --- doesn't seem like you are wasting it though.
If you want more time be more aggressive getting hours.
Otherwise enjoy it. |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:08 PM Author: boyish toaster how sure are you about the six months? i'm getting a little nervous only because i want to go in-house, am very junior for an in-house lawyer (wanted to stick it out one more year here) and there are so many rounds of fucking interviews. i think 6 months would be enough time to find something decent. three is pushing it. but feel stressed to accept anything/everything in case i get fired at 3.
i figure if it were a 3 month deadline, i would've been told as much/given a date. no?
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:04 PM Author: Stirring range Some firms do this. I've never totally understood why they don't just shitcan people instead of playing games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23212233) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 7:22 PM Author: boyish toaster I don't really understand it either- especially since the normal hours are so brutal.
Actually, I've noticed it before. The expectation is that people kill themselves on a daily basis. I'd bet most of the attorneys in that firm have worked months averaging over 100 hours per week (Hello my second year with no days off and at least oe all-nighter per week for 5 straight months). But when something comes up- death in the family, illness, pregnancy- they roll over backwards to be accommodating. Months off paid, flexible schedules, super human all around. This strikes me that way too, except moreso- almost too cushy to not feel guilty about it, especially since it's a case where I will cost them money and that resulted not from circumstances beyond my control, but just because I've been a sucky employee.
Just weird- business as usual vs. the exceptional circumstance. And this may be the weirdest part of it. |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 8:58 PM Author: Domesticated thriller institution affirmative action Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I think they realize it's easier to get a job when you have a job.
Being a realist, I don't think they want to admit to the world that they were allowing (in their own view) a substandard associate to work on client matters. |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 9:13 PM Author: ivory heaven famous landscape painting pre-ITE, actually shitcanning people was bad for morale, bad for recruiting, etc. also, the firm wanted to stay on good terms with you and hope you get some in-house gig and give them business later on. they also wanted to cover their ass and avoid a lawsuit; it's easier to have you leave on your own terms and be happy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23212969) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 9:06 PM Author: Cerise meetinghouse legend Keep looking and dont complain. I would not do any work if I was on my way out either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23212929) |
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Date: May 16th, 2013 10:44 PM Author: insane hyperactive yarmulke digit ratio Coast, bro. Coast and look for next profit opportunity. You'll likely never have the chance to coast like this again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23213638) |
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Date: May 17th, 2013 10:23 AM Author: Embarrassed to the bone theatre jew Why would they give you any significant work when they know you can leave at a moment's notice?
Maybe if they were slammed instead of slow, they'd shovel some work your way to ease the burden on every one else... but then again, If they were slammed, they probably wouldn't be letting you go in the first place, right? |
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Date: May 17th, 2013 10:25 AM Author: Balding supple home are they being nice to give you a chance to find a new job before they kick you to curb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#23216194) |
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Date: May 17th, 2013 11:21 PM Author: mint reading party that seems to be exactly what they are doing bro.
usually when this happens you are not expected to come in to the office, they keep you bio on website and secretary answers your phone to make you seem like employed, and you get paid severance. |
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Date: September 12th, 2015 6:49 PM Author: Odious Orchestra Pit What happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#28742611) |
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Date: September 12th, 2015 8:25 PM Author: Curious locale stain Just another typical day in Biglaw... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2257840&forum_id=2#28743277) |