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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:37 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig please comment.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:37 AM Author: Grizzly infuriating messiness boiling water *raises hand* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150898) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig why?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: Grizzly infuriating messiness boiling water Law school = boring, expensive, makes you into a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150914) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig didnt you know that going in?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:47 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch What would you have done instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150984) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: mischievous supple area travel guidebook Yep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150904) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig why?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: mischievous supple area travel guidebook I regret it in the sense that these 3 years are mind numbingly boring, and I feel as though Im wasting my time and just coasting through. Law school is not intellectually stimulating for me, and every class is just drudgery. And its fucking expensive as fuck.
That said, I think Ill enjoy working as an atorney much more than law school, though I dont envision actually practicing law for more than 5 years after graduation.
I shouldnt say I regret it as a whole, I just REALLY wish it was only two years long.
EDIT - Also it introduced me to PR and then this board. Though I suppose law school would have been more boring without the amusement PR and this board offer. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:42 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig what do you plan on doing in 5+ years?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:44 AM Author: mischievous supple area travel guidebook Not sure. Business of some kind I would imagine. Ive realized I need to be my own boss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150955) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: ivory cracking trailer park Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150906) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig why?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:45 AM Author: ivory cracking trailer park I would have preferred to have been born into money and gone into linguistics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150961) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:46 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch At least being forced to provide for yourself keeps you from falling into an existential depression. Workers tend to have less despression. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150978) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: ivory cracking trailer park Workers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151003) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:50 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch People who work for a living. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151013) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:51 AM Author: ivory cracking trailer park I... what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151024) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 1:59 AM Author: Transparent hospital Have you ever been around "workers"?
a miserable lot. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:00 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch Can't say that I have. Thanks for the warning. I will avoid them at all costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158519) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: Transparent hospital At all costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158531) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:04 AM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier When I think of "workers" I think of our futures as members of the proletariat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158543) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:09 AM Author: Transparent hospital Well, you will be. You'll just be in an office instead of a mine or factory. They'll [capital] will let you have a nice place to live and a nice car, but that's pretty much it. You will trade your time for money, and you are easily replaceable. You will be a clerk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158570) |
Date: February 17th, 2005 1:46 AM Author: Painfully honest jewess yes, I wanted to be a writer - and law school has squeezed the last bit of passion and compassion out of my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2150971) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:52 AM Author: hairless hell I don't. But I have to admit, I'm glad I have the option of not going the traditional law route and not totally freaking out about my grades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151028) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:56 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig how are u so lucky?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:05 AM Author: hairless hell I found a matsters that pays about 70g's starting, (it's a joint degree with the law school). With a JD, I expect I can get at least 80 if I just pass all my classes. I actually still think I'll do better this semester than I did last semester, and I'm not particularly slacking off, but it's nice to have the pressure off. With 70,000 a year, I know I can pay off my loans and be ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151132) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:03 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut I hate it, I suck at it, and I still don't regret it. I mean what else was I gonna do? Suck cock for $$$s? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151110) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:40 AM Author: Stimulating box office I do. I should've joined the navy and become an admiral. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151387) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:18 AM Author: Blue Histrionic Garrison Like me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152118) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:23 AM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse you and david robinson (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152127) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:21 PM Author: Stimulating box office I was thinking Nelson. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156970) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:41 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw haha, even I don't regret it. Buck up, I'm sure practicing will be more fun than law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151392) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:43 AM Author: Stimulating box office Didn't you drop out? No, working 70 hours/wk at a firm is worse than LS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151407) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:45 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw Yea, thus the comment "even I dont regret it"
No one has to work 70 hours a week. Some people may choose to take those jobs - but no one is bound to do this. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:49 AM Author: Stimulating box office Whatever the number of hours, it's a lot more than I work now in LS, and most of it will be spent doing the research and writing, which is what I hate most. So, it will be worse. Did you get a full refund? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:51 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw You can find jobs that require 40-50 hours a week and still pay quite well (above $80k).
Nah, no refund. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:55 AM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier Don't leave us on the edges of our seats!
What kinds of jobs? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:56 AM Author: Clear Diverse Karate Abode I second that emotion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151501) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:06 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw govt after 5 yrs.
mid sized firms |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:56 AM Author: Stimulating box office 40-50 hours of stuff I hate. I would much prefer to be at sea.
How much did your little misadventure cost you, then? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:07 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw $13k of tuition + opportunity cost
$20k of debt |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:20 AM Author: Stimulating box office I'd regret that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151664) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:22 AM Author: pontificating walnut bbw No big deal. I'm only 23, I made some good friends here and discovered I like DC. Seems like a bargain really. $20k is nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151677) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: Transparent hospital So what do you do now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158527) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:04 AM Author: Doobsian Boltzmann Trust Fund Yes. Now more than ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151554) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:05 AM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig why?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:14 AM Author: Doobsian Boltzmann Trust Fund http://www.courts.state.md.us/ble/weatherpolicy.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151630) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:07 AM Author: marvelous violent national security agency love of her life I'm not sure if I regret it, but sometimes I wonder if it was the right choice for me. I think I would've waited a few years if I could do it over again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151581) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:23 AM Author: Passionate nursing home legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2151682) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:55 AM Author: Autistic Rigor Right, I think people say they would have done this or that, but I know a guy who was always putting down law, or medicine or any other field because he was gonna be *insert artistic/creative/cool job* here...and he's just a miserable loser now. You have to be realistic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152065) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:13 AM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse yes. I really wanted to be a professional golfer and rockstar, but that didn't pan out.
honestly, yes, I do regret it, but then again I don't think I would be happy doing anything really. I hope to be able to jump to the business world when I get bored of the monotony of law. Who knows if I will be able to. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:14 AM Author: Poppy Stage Subject: I actually like the law, which surprises me...but I should have definitely worked a year or two to see what the hell a full time job is like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152108) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:25 AM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse the concern with you and a million other people in law school, is that you are going to get to a law firm and hate it, not because you hate law and law firms, but really because having a job in general is not that great. Then you will think that law is your problem, when, in reality, having any job is the real problem. You will then leave the law, take some other job, and find out that just having a job was the problem all along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152136) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:54 PM Author: Zombie-like big party of the first part This is DEFINITELY the credited response.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:15 PM Author: motley wagecucks coldplay fan The most relevant and observant post I've seen on this thread yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152907) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:39 PM Author: Poppy Stage Subject: I agree with you, hopefully I can see it that way when I start working...If prospective students ever e-mail me or talk to me here, I'd tell anyone thinking about going straight through to make sure you work a year or two before law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153366) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:32 AM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino I think I am probably going to hate it, but at this point I have been doing wacky, nonconformist shit for about 6 years, I'm in a bunch of debt already, and I am going to starve to death or go to jail in the next 5 years if I can't figure some way to get some $$$. Alternative suggestions greatly appreciated. PS. Don't get a master's degree you have to pay a dime for. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:55 PM Author: Zombie-like big party of the first part Where are yoyu looking at? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152818) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:10 PM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino The left-hand side of my desk where the computer is. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:25 PM Author: Zombie-like big party of the first part ass
I meant what law schools |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 3:59 PM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino I have to get in somewhere first. I think we're both interested in some school. Duke maybe. UNC? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:13 PM Author: Zombie-like big party of the first part I think UGA too. Im visiting there tomorrow. MY LSN is Avenged7X (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153904) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:23 PM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino Oh yeah. Can you post your impressions when you get back? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:38 PM Author: contagious circlehead Subject: Every Day It has been a HUGE waste of money and a HUGE waste of time. I figured by going to a top 25 school, I'd have decent job prospects. Nope. I'm a 2L and I still haven't found a job. I pay full tuition + living expenses through loans. I sitting at 100k with 50k to go.
I actually haven't decided if I'll go back next year. If all I can get is unpaid work this summer, which is likely, I won't finish. I figure at this point the 100k is a sunk cost. There is no reason to spend the next 50k if there is no benefit. If I do graduate, I'll probably be making 40k working 60+ hours a week.
I should have stuck with being an insurance salesman. Before I started school, I was making 35k a year with plenty of room for advancement. But, o'h well you got to sleep in the bed you made. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:41 PM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse so your only regret is job prospects? You will end up getting a good job, so don't sweat it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152735) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:51 PM Author: contagious circlehead Job prospect, time, and money...and I'm not too sure about a "good" job, i'm not the only one in this situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152794) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:22 PM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier Wow. Biggest mistake ever.
If you decide you don't want to go back, just take a leave of absence and give yourself a year or so to think it over. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:18 PM Author: Salmon ratface Dropping out at this point would be outrageously retarded.
At the minimum, it's a graduate degree -- you'll really wish you had one when you're 45. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:02 AM Author: Vengeful stag film gunner Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158827) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:57 PM Author: irate exhilarant brunch Subject: I regret it every day. Before going to law school I did administrative work. After graduating from law school, I do administrative work. I've been looking for attorney work since graduating 3 years ago. Nothing. I'm worse off since 1) I had a better administrative job before attending LS and would be earning better money; 2) I'm 100k in debt and am never paying that off with what I earn; and 3) I feel humiliated every day because I work in higher education and hate it when people find out about the JD and then see me in a clerical position.
Law school attended? Think Rocky Mountain Region, barely first tier ... |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:43 PM Author: hairraiser hairy legs I regret it every second that I am conscious. Actually, I regret it when I'm unconscious as well, seeing as I've been waking up in a cold sweat at least three nights a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152743) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:53 PM Author: Mahogany Selfie Goyim Where do you go? Does it have to do with your school in particular, or LS in general? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152802) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 12:53 PM Author: bull headed cruel-hearted station Not at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152800) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:16 PM Author: multi-colored soggy market Law is so boring in dull, what were you thinking in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152911) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:23 PM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier I already regret going to LS, and I haven't even enrolled yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2152945) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:32 PM Author: fragrant principal's office twinkling uncleanness law school is a living hell...it is zapping all of my creativity. I don't feel motivated at all. I have sucky grades, and i don't want to be a lawyer. And now i will be 170,000 in debt by the end of it all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153000) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:36 PM Author: magenta boyish address so do you regret it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153024) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:39 PM Author: fragrant principal's office twinkling uncleanness definitely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153046) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:41 PM Author: magenta boyish address so whats your plan for graduation then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153055) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:42 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153056) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:43 PM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse are you being sarcastic? how long ago did you get your MBA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153064) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:51 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153096) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:56 PM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier Hey, I need all the optimism I can get!
Care to share more about your goals, etc.? What do you mean by nontrad law? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:01 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153147) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:47 PM Author: vigorous lime location Worst decision of my life.
Thanks to law school, I'll be 100K+ in debt and jobless.
With top 1/3ish grades at a top 25 (2L), I'm forced to work for free next summer. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:52 PM Author: contagious circlehead I hear that (see my above post). I am in the same boat as you except that you have slightly better grades (I'm just above the median). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153105) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:55 PM Author: vigorous lime location What sucks is that I like law school and what I did last summer. If I hated it, being unemployed wouldn't be so insulting.
By the way, my grades were just under the median last semester, so I improved quite a bit. Maybe that will help me get something. I've updated every place I'm waiting to hear from and mass-spammed a ton of firms (with my new grades).
I'm starting to panic. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:58 PM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier Worst case senario: you pass the bar before you get a firm job. Maybe you do PI work or something in the interim. Be flexible with regard to pay and location at first, and you will not be unemployed for long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153129) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:59 PM Author: vigorous lime location You should see how flexible I'm being. I'm applying everywhere from Maine to Nebraska to California. I'm searching out jobs that pay less than 50K a year. Again, I hope these grades help me out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153138) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:04 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop repost to below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153164) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:42 PM Author: Soul-stirring Bronze Meetinghouse Coffee Pot i know what you did last summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2155143) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:57 PM Author: sienna vivacious lay marketing idea Top 1/3 grades at a T25 and no job?
Did you murder someone in a previous life or something? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 1:58 PM Author: vigorous lime location I was just under the median last semester. My grades improved a lot this semester. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153128) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:04 PM Author: sienna vivacious lay marketing idea Sorry what I meant was, top 1/3 still won't land you a job? What happens to everyone in the bottom half of class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153158) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:07 PM Author: vigorous lime location It's probably premature for me to bitch. I got some callbacks with under the median grades last semester, but nothing. Now I have better grades and I'm feeling pessimistic (some places are autodinging me because they don't have room left in their SA class). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153182) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:05 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop Good lord, it is really that bad?
Have you only been applying to unrealistic options? Checked out medium firms and/or secondary markets? Public interest work?
Or is it a personality/appearance/interviewing problem?
I just find it so hard to believe that you guys are jobless while Wayne State grads are getting good firm jobs and being named among the Top 10 Lawyers of 2004 (obviously SHE was no AA admit at WS...).
http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/index.php?id=698 |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:08 PM Author: vigorous lime location It's probably premature for me to bitch. I got some callbacks with under the median grades last semester, but nothing. Now I have better grades and I'm feeling pessimistic (some places are autodinging me because they don't have room left in their SA class). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153186) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:11 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop I think you're the one who said you applied everywhere from Maine to Nebraska...
I wouldn't expect to get a job in these outposts unless you're FROM there or have other strong ties to the area.
Perhaps the problem is that you're casting too wide a net. Need to focus and milk your connections. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:14 PM Author: vigorous lime location I have family in many cities, so I've tried milking all of those places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153229) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:15 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop
You are officially making me worry. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:15 PM Author: contagious circlehead Well, my school is in a secondary market and I've mostly applied to medium sized firms. I dunno maybe I am being too unrealistic. But, so far the only job I could have taken was for 12 per billable hour. I'm far from picky but I made more landscaping when I was in college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153234) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:22 PM Author: vigorous lime location I only have one "job" offer for this summer and it's an unpaid public defender deal in a horribly overpriced west coast city. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153274) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:12 PM Author: heady fat ankles How about the people going to a Top 6 school? I might go to Columbia LS next year but I might try Ibanking out; is it really that bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153217) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:14 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153228) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:21 PM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse I go to Columbia. I would suggest you take your ibanking job if you just graduated from college. Law school will always be there and you might like ibanking if you can handle 100 hour work weeks.
Everyone should work for a little before law school. That is one reason a lot of people complain about law jobs. Many law grads have never had a job before so when they hate their law job they assume it is because of the "law" part and not the "job" part. Often they are wrong. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:23 PM Author: White rehab Excellent point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154501) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:32 PM Author: alcoholic haunted graveyard yes
it was a regretful decision in a time when I just wanted thefuck out of my current job
this is not a good reason to go to LS |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 2:56 PM Author: Very tactful stock car Yes. I fucking hate law school. I should have just bucked up and found a job instead of going into debt for this shit. I don't like it at all and I can't ever see myself as a practicing lawyer. But I'll probably just do it "for the money." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153452) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:02 PM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino What exactly is so bad about law school? I wish you people would be specific. Is it that it's really boring? That the people are jerks? I think I'm ready for both of those obstacles. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:13 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house I feel generally the same as the person you've responded to. Law school is nothing bad in and of itself. It is not altogether that boring and the people are not altogether that bad. Regretting it and wishing you were not here are obviously completely subjective personal feelings.
I agree with Rock that I cannot see myself practicing the law. Practicing seems pretty bad and relatively pointless like 90% of the law. That all being said, there are alot of depressed people at law school and they probably show up here and tend to talk more than others...that shouldn't affect you or your excitement for law school. You shouldn't even go in with the idea that the people suck or that it is boring - even if you can handle those things you might be creating the problems more than handling them. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:25 PM Author: Arrogant talented azn casino This seems like a measured sentiment, but you said below that you "generally hate it." Can you describe what you hate? Is it that practicing is going to involve long hours and drudge work? And do you feel that's true in all areas of practice? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:34 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house Ok...
I do not think that it is true of all practice areas and I would hesitate to say that it is true entirely of any one practice area. However, when the loan burden is big it limits the kind of things you can do. Moreover, it does seem like alot of drudge work which is not very interesting.
I am not against law or the study of law just don't really like to do it much myself. I also dislike the teaching method for most courses. There is alot I do not like but it's a good place for people who do like it and want to be lawyers, at most places it's not as competitive as it seems and the people aren't bad as they seem from outside law school. And, of course it you like it you like it and you will never find it boring even if you might find some small part of it boring. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:03 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house I hate law school and definitely regret going. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153836) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:18 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop Did you work at a real job (FT) before going to ls? |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:18 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house nope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153947) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:27 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop There you go.
Work sucks. Espceially when you're young and the last thing you want to do is sit at a desk for 10+ hours a day.
At least with legal work, you're getting paid more than average. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house I might have liked it better if I worked pre-law school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154145) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:20 PM Author: french property People hate law school b/c of the fact that unless you're at a tip top school or have tip top grades, you're going to struggle to get any legal position after school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153961) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:22 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house I have pretty good grades at a pretty good school and generally hate it. Not to say that your explanation doesn't hold true for many. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2153988) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:28 PM Author: bossy frozen really tough guy dog poop Anyone in any field is going to struggle to get a position in this economy after they graduate, with very few exceptions.
There are people with college degrees working the checkout at Target. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:29 PM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig I don't understand. On usnews, even low t1 schools have very high employment rates w/median salaries of 60-90k. is that all just bullshit?
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:35 PM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse for the most part those are correct. getting a high paying summer job or job at a big law firm is really hard and most people get frustrated when they can't have one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154092) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:35 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154093) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:37 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house I might be wrong, but I thought those represented private practice salaries only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154105) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:38 PM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig no you're correct they do.
i wonder if like 90% go into the public sector. that'd be pretty messed up.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:42 PM Author: Ruddy haunting house it wouldn't be that high at most places but there's probably a higher percentage the lower you go on the rankings...there's also non-reporting rates and unemployed people and I'm not sure how those get factored in, I'm sure IH knows though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154160) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:53 PM Author: avocado sadistic brethren No- the people that are more likely to respond to a post like this are those who DO regret going to law school. Below-average employment prospects can make anyone bitter or regretful, even if only temporarily. I speak from experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154252) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:28 PM Author: puce national affirmative action I guess I'm sort of like IH
dropped out, 60 K in debt
but not really, now I at least know what I don't want to do, learned alot about myself in the process |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:29 PM Author: Black dead background story so what do you want to do now>? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154037) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:37 PM Author: puce national affirmative action I'm coaching football for free right now
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:39 PM Author: pontificating walnut bbw That's how Bill Belichick got started. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154124) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: puce national affirmative action Mike Leach too,
he's more my style, and kind of my role model right now |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:30 PM Author: pontificating walnut bbw bingo. congrats! Shomer and I welcome you to the club :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154054) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:32 PM Author: Black dead background story see, with me, working a bit over a yr in finance has showed me I don't want to do finance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154072) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:36 PM Author: pontificating walnut bbw I don't blame you. I wouldn't wanna do finance either.
I'm sure you will enjoy law. Few LSers drop out. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:38 PM Author: Black dead background story The thing is-academic finance and quant is great, but you never actually get to do it or use it in real world finance, which sucks. even when you can, the places that use it like hedge funds expect you to have a phd or 5 yrs WE. I can't wait for LS almost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154118) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:39 PM Author: puce national affirmative action thanks
you guys seem employable enough to actually pay off your debt, I'm planning to run from the creditors to Switzerland and live as goat herder in the alps :) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:42 PM Author: pontificating walnut bbw eh 60k isn't a lot. You can spread it over a number of years. You shouldn't worry about it too much.
Besides, nothing wrong with being a goat herder - or a ski instructor teaching hot chicks how to ski in the Alps. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:45 PM Author: puce national affirmative action I'm not real worried about it, I don't have anyone but myself to support, and I can live real cheaply (I put the Vietnamese to shame)
that said, its not real obvious to me how I'm going to pay it off anytime soon |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 4:57 PM Author: jade nofapping rigpig I regret it, i should have just concentrated on marrying a financially stable guy b/c i care more about my relationships with people (friends/so/family) than i do about work. i see it as a necessary evil though to insure my financial stability because i can't count on mom/dad like most people to help me out if times literally get to where i can't pay rent/health insurance/car insurance/bills, etc and i have to be on the streets. but now i just envision myself putting in the hard work just to be financially stable but lonely and miserable b/c all the time i'd put into developing relationships with others is gonna be spent working my ass off, late, on weekends, etc., during my prime years (mid-late 20's). Thhen when i can finally relax a bit i wiill be too old to get going on getting married, having kids, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154292) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:00 PM Author: multi-colored soggy market Adopt me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154314) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:12 PM Author: puce national affirmative action I don't have any paticularly good advice for you (not that you'd really want any anyway)
I think I do sort of know how you feel though |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:17 PM Author: Arousing Dilemma Codepig im in the same financial boat as you. thats the primary reason im going to ls. you don't anticipate having trouble landing a good job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154441) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 8:09 AM Author: sooty aromatic space psychic Well, looks like we do have some common ground after all!
You sum up my feelings exactly. Especially the part about wasting away your prime years, finding later that it's too late to do all the things you wanted.
My mom had me (I'm the oldest) when she was 39. I feel like my older parents had a lot more to offer as parents, but it still bites that I will get about 15-20 years less with them than a lot of my peers. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 9:10 AM Author: jade nofapping rigpig yeah my mom is dead already. since winter break of freshman year of UG. yipee. don't you have a serious bf though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159245) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 9:36 AM Author: sooty aromatic space psychic I'm sorry. I've had a bunch of close calls with my dad...we've been lucky so far though. That's one reason I want to be in the Chicago area, just in case of an emergency.
I do have a serious bf. I'm supposed to be getting married in fact. "Stable" is probably the number one word I'd use to describe my fiance, a major reason that I'm marrying him (perhaps THE reason?). At least then I'll have something/someone to count on. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 9:38 AM Author: jade nofapping rigpig exactly, i don't have that so it is even worse. at least you will have SOMEONE and the marriage/family thing is decided for ya. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159310) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 9:43 AM Author: sooty aromatic space psychic I guess.
I really don't want kids but my bf does and he is RIDICULOUSLY great with kids. He's not the type who will leave the whole parenting/household job to me. I think I'll be hating the whole pregnant/young mom thing but will be glad to have a family when I'm older (too old to have kids). |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:06 PM Author: Light Concupiscible School Cafeteria Subject: Dropping out I will be dropping out at the end of this semester, maybe now if I can get a refund and find a job for the next 3 months. I am a 1L, I hated law school and couldn't see myself being a lawyer of any type for the next 30 years. Will end up with about $30,000 debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154354) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:33 PM Author: pontificating walnut bbw Welcome to the club! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154589) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:40 PM Author: Light Concupiscible School Cafeteria Thanks, we should start a club or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154657) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:57 PM Author: Clear Diverse Karate Abode Why not drop out now and start earning some loot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154809) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:00 PM Author: Light Concupiscible School Cafeteria If I can find a temp job for 3 months I will do this for sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154848) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:18 PM Author: Hideous center cuck jesus....dropping like flies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154448) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:22 PM Author: Black dead background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154496) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 5:22 PM Author: White rehab scary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2154497) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:24 PM Author: Zippy provocative gas station I don't regret it. Overall, being a law student is definitely easier than holding down a real job. . Law school was really shitty 1L year because everything was new, 1Ls are forced to take more credits (and hours of class) than 2L/3Ls and legal writing on top of it all blew. 2L year was also shitty during interviewing season, but school got progressively easier after I got a summer job. The rest of 2L/3L year I managed to have a light schedule including 1-2 days off during the week. In one semester I had 4 day weekends and in another I had wednesdays off. . In terms of whether law school was financially worthwhile, I have to give a resounding Yes. As a liberal arts major, any job I would have gotten after college would have barely covered rent, car, and food. My opportunity cost of attending law school was zilch because my post-college earning power was pathetic. Now I'm graduating with $90k in loans (and about $15k in the bank left over from last summer) which basically means I have to pay back a little over ten thou a year for the first decade of my legal career. I am reasonably confident that if I continue to live like a law student for a few more years I'll be on pretty solid financial footing before I even turn 30.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:46 PM Author: sienna vivacious lay marketing idea LS is what you make of it. I can't imagine it being harder or more stress inducing than medical school (where in addition to working ridiculous hours you have to be exposed to society's worst). I also wonder how many people have worked BETWEEN undergraduate and law school (like full time jobs, even if it's flipping burgers). The thing you need to realize is that work, for the most part, sucks, any way you slice it. It's something you have to do and get paid to do it. You at least get paid above average in law, and I bet a dime that it would be possible to find a job you liked IN LAW, even if it's not 125k a year.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:52 PM Author: Maniacal therapy This is true.
Interestingly, this is possibly the ONLY topic on which we might be able to get more meaningful feedback on nontradlaw than here. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 6:56 PM Author: sienna vivacious lay marketing idea I'd like to hear from the PhDs, MDs, and other people who have significant academic experience and/or work experience in other fields, how they think the 'standard' job stacks up. So what's being a professor like versus being a gen. practioner versus being a lawyer. Chances are no one will answer this though (although there's a PhD turned lawyer on the grad forum who shed light on the PROs to law over just having the PhD...) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2155228) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 7:27 PM Author: alcoholic haunted graveyard I am kind of in this boat...I do have another career, which I have returned to.
I realized that law is as boring as fuck and that i wanted out of my old job cuz of the people (boss) I worked with. I am in the same field now, but the people have changed and I love it. I am actually happy to get up and go to work each and every day. And I am making pots of money. THIS is living...this is what life if suppose to be about. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:43 PM Author: Charismatic vermilion hissy fit What field? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156577) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 7:13 PM Author: mind-boggling turdskin No way - I'm set to make a shitload of money, and the work ain't so bad either.
School sucks and so do the people, but I seem to do okay even when I don't give a shit.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 7:17 PM Author: Maniacal therapy ?sdrawkcab taht gnitirw fo tniop eht saw tahW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2155361) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 7:20 PM Author: stirring parlour sound barrier Haven't you heard? Accomodations for people with learning disabiltiies is all the rage.. especially dyslexia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2155381) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:21 PM Author: mind-boggling turdskin The Simpsons episode was playing as I wrote it. Writing it out helped get the damn song out of my head. But now it's back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156965) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 7:28 PM Author: deranged native More feces. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2155443) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 8:54 PM Author: turquoise razzle point I've never posted before but this thread is compelling me to speak out. Work does not suck! I've worked for several years and liked my jobs. Almost all my friends like their jobs to varying degrees. You shouldn't expect to love your job every second, but you don't have to despite it the way many lawyers despise theirs.
If your logic for going to law school is "work sucks, I might as well make a lot for doing it" you need to rethink your decision. That attitude will turn you into one of the miserable biglaw associates who blog about trying to make up for their vacuous lives by thinking about the expensive ties they just bought. I don't get the whole mindset here. I don't understand how smart, educated young grads in one of the richest countries in history can view their work futures so bleakly. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 8:56 PM Author: razzmatazz pungent bawdyhouse that is just precious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156152) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:18 PM Author: turquoise razzle point The people on this board are very fucked upbbbbbbb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156314) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:20 PM Author: deranged native More feces. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156346) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 8:58 PM Author: demanding saffron lodge I spent a half hour talking about the multi-district litigation panel today and Viox litigation with my girlfriend! That is when I realized law school has destroyed my soul. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156161) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:18 PM Author: federal electric whorehouse associate She's still with you? Keep her! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156321) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:08 PM Author: alcoholic anal black woman forum In general, law school's great. Sure, 3L's a little boring but everything's worked out perfectly so far. I've gotten exactly what I've wanted. Thanks for asking! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156235) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:21 PM Author: Aggressive pink lettuce Well, let's see.
Four years ago, I had graduated from a top ten undergrad with a shitty GPA and unpalatable, at best, job options.
Now, after three years at a good-but-not-great law school and OK grades, I am left with the following: (1) no debt (low COL + scholarship + meager savings + slight help from parents + summer $$) (2) a job that will pay me over a hundred a year to basically be a warmed-over clerk and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, (3) three years of dicking around, exploring the subtle differences in taste and intoxication between various Vermont-grown cannabis blends, living a good portion of my twenties skiing and sunbathing and running and hiking, and generally having fun.
Even if I hate my job - absolutely fucking hate BIGLAW, which is possible, maybe probable - I can always parachute out to some bullshit government job that will be easy and eventually pay a hundred a year. That's worst-case.
Or I'll work for ten years, save 25K a year and get another degree or move to another country or do something else - with 300, 400, 500K in my pocket.
So my answer is fuck no do I regret having gone to law school.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:24 PM Author: turquoise razzle point You're a man of passion and dreams. Maybe someday they'll make a movie about you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156387) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:25 PM Author: Aggressive pink lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156405) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:31 PM Author: turquoise razzle point That was unfair, I admit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156454) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:35 PM Author: Aggressive pink lettuce Ha! And to think that I gave you the benefit of the doubt after reading your earlier post.
Most law students are so fucking boring that they should be shit-eating ecstatic that anyone would pay them two thousand a week to do anything. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:58 PM Author: turquoise razzle point Which earlier post, the one where I made constructive comments based on actual experience or the one with the sarcastic jab? Oh, or the one where I said people in this board were fucked upbbbbbbb? Forgot about that one. I stand by all of them, except I agree there are much worse fates than a stable government lawyer job paying a decent wage.
Ironically, the one thing I'd say about people on this board is they're not boring. They talk about shit and sex like they were 14, but they're not boring.
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:13 PM Author: Charismatic vermilion hissy fit People on this board aren't representative of law students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156858) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:12 PM Author: Charismatic vermilion hissy fit Seconded.
And it's not like you can't write or do whatever interests you in your (mounds of) spare time after you lateral into government.
But Vermont weed is no match for California weed, unfortunately. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:25 PM Author: Odious Public Bath I don't regret choosing to go to law school. I regret choosing to go to the law school I'm at. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156402) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:27 PM Author: Dun crackhouse toaster The pertinent question always seems to be: What were your other options? I had shit coming in, so yeah, I'm thrilled to be marginally employable. If you had a kickass creative job lined up, then it's possible law school could suck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156421) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:34 PM Author: Aggressive pink lettuce That is one of the pertinent questions, but people tend to overestimate their other options and, even more importantly, underestimate the value of having multiple option.
As Matt McDermott succinctly put it: always have a way out. |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:35 PM Author: Dun crackhouse toaster Well, yes, I mean your *actual*, honest other options. For most college grads, they kind of suck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156499) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 9:36 PM Author: Aggressive pink lettuce Yes, I agree, and only meant my post as an addendum... not a riposte (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156513) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:03 PM Author: turquoise razzle point How does law school give you options? It closes off options. You're branded as a lawyer and you probably have lots of debt. This is fine if you want to be a lawyer, but not so good if you don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156754) |
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Date: February 17th, 2005 10:24 PM Author: misunderstood depressive If you don't want to be a lawyer why did you go to law school in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2156991) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 1:56 AM Author: flushed out-of-control volcanic crater i don't regret it at all. there are a lot of tools in law school, but i just hang out with the friends i had before.
i was a physics major in college and then worked at a well-known consulting company for a couple of years. but now that i'm in law school i have an offer with one of the very top firms around, which pays significantly more than my pre-LS job. i mean, it's not a bad deal for putting in some minimal effort into prepping for the lsat, and then moderate effort in keeping up with the material for two semesters in school.
working sucks, period, but since i'm not a talented musician or athlete and i detest business types, the law doesn't seem so bad. trust me, most professions cannot offer even the moderately decent pay and moderately intellectual challenge the law does. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 1:59 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch "working sucks, period, but since i'm not a talented musician or athlete and i detest business types, the law doesn't seem so bad."
There's always the option of physics PhD. That could be cool. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:00 AM Author: flushed out-of-control volcanic crater grades weren't good enough. thank god for lsat-whoring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158521) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: Pearl vibrant newt kitty What law school are you in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158525) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:04 AM Author: flushed out-of-control volcanic crater i'm at a school ranked between #7 and #14, which i consider fungible for recruiting purposes -- from my personal experience anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158542) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:40 AM Author: primrose greedy son of senegal 3L kinda sucks, but i'm psyched to be making good money soon, doing something that i (relatively) enjoy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158759) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 2:42 AM Author: cheese-eating spot potus No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158778) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:14 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder I do right now at this very minute but that's cause its three in the morning and I am exhausted (my bedtime is 12!!!) and I have a ton of work so I won't be able to go to speep for a LONG time and I have to be somewhere and think tomorrow morning and I am going to make a terrible impression cause I will look like ass and I am wasting my time here and I can no longer effectively use punctuation and I JUST WANT TO SLEEP FOR 14 HOURS STRAIGHT AND THEN WATCH STARTING OVER ON THE COUCH WHILE DRINKING COFFEE!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158863) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:22 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch What's "Starting Over"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158887) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:32 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder its a reality show on at noon. A whole bunch of chicks live in this house together and get intensive counciling while trying to reach their self -improvement goals, get over their issues and support each other.
it is pretty crappy tv only watched by unemployed gay men, lazy students and fat housewives.
http://www.startingovertv.com/
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:34 AM Author: Cerebral emerald crotch I doubt it would be the end of the world if you went to sleep now and finished your work over the weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158926) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:47 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder my draft of this brief is due tomorrow and the brief itself is due in two weeks.
its a real appellate brief. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 6:06 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut If it makes you feel better I haven't gone to sleep yet either. And I'm not done with my work either. God I hate LS right now.
Also an appellate brief here. Not real. Due on Tuesday. And I have a class at 10:25AM. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 6:12 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder It *actually* does make me feel better to know that someone else is up and working and that I am not the only one suffering through this misery.
How is your first year going?
Mine was hellish but was over in a flash, kind of like my second year is now nearly over in a flash.
LS sucks - but not all the time :)
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:16 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut "I have a job interview at 10:30 (which I am going to show up for on no sleep) but have to get this brief emailed out to my partners first."
Yikes. Same position: I told my partner I'd have it to her by morning. Its 6:15 now, and I figure as long as I give her what I have before 10AM I'm alright.
"How is your first year going?"
It is majorly sucking.
"Mine was hellish but was over in a flash, kind of like my second year is now nearly over in a flash."
Yeah, that's really the only thing it's had going for it. Seems like only a few weeks ago that I started this rat race, and its almost spring break.
"LS sucks - but not all the time :)"
Um, when's that? Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who pulled an all nighter and isn't even caught up.
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:27 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder "Um, when's that? Keep in mind, you're talking to someone who pulled an all nighter and isn't even caught up. "
Who said ANYTHING about catching up? whoa cowboy you are getting a little overambitious over there.
Priorities: 1. Brief 2. Sleep 3. More sleep 4. Party 5. Catch up (maybe at some later yet to be determined time) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:33 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut "(maybe at some later yet to be determined time)"
This is what got me into trouble last semester. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:40 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder "(maybe at some later yet to be determined time)"
This is what got me into trouble last semester.
Sorry I forgot you were a 1L - yeah - you might have to wait till next year to try my technique if you actually care about your grades or want a firm job for your 2L summer. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 8:45 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut I already messed up in that department first semester. And worst of all, I'm pretty set on being able to pay off my loans at some point (meaning I'm going into biglaw). Worse still, I still have some dreams of a nice clerkship and perhaps academia at some point. So no fun for me. :(
For some reason everyone thinks I'm a 2L. A girl came up to me and started flirting with me. That is until I told her I was a 1L. She promptly realized she had something she needed to do...
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:48 AM Author: Passionate nursing home legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158958) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 3:52 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2158968) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:17 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut The kind of fag that has a brief due...
I swear, if research and writing wasn't graded I'd be taking a 14 hour nap right now. |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:25 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder my school graded too but only because my school is incredibly evil and delights in torturing us for its sole amusement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159169) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:34 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut I'm starting to believe our school is the same way. I mean 5 classes and the research and writing is graded? Gee, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159174) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 7:37 AM Author: copper piazza mental disorder our legal writig grade was also curved to make it extra excruciating.
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Date: February 18th, 2005 8:46 AM Author: Ultramarine juggernaut Same here. Worked my ass off on my last brief, had only minor errors. Grade? B+. I wanted to set the building on fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159209) |
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Date: February 18th, 2005 9:37 AM Author: slimy preventive strike scourge upon the earth i'm here for the lexis and westlaw points (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#2159303) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2005 1:22 AM Author: Thriller school Faggots. You should have never applied. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#3725954) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2005 10:30 AM Author: Sticky Amber Double Fault Indian Lodge I definitely do not. I'm a 1L, so I've only been here for a little over a month, but I think the work is fairly interesting and the people are nice (or at least, the ones that go out are). Also, the academic environment is pretty cushy: you have tons of young people all around you, intellectual opportunities are everywhere, and the work is just not that bad, at least compared to the real world.
There are a few jobs that might have been better. I would have liked being one of the very top political scientists, a la Kissinger or Rice (but definitely not one of the everyday PhD's), or perhaps an editorialist for a major national newspaper, like the NYT. But other than these ridiculously elite jobs, I'd rather be a lawyer/judge/law prof. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2005 10:36 AM Author: outnumbered rambunctious state boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#3727078) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2005 10:37 AM Author: gaped laughsome kitchen candlestick maker my only regret is attempting it without a trust fund. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=137601&forum_id=2#3727084) |