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is ohtani already a HOFer?

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richard clock
  06/26/24
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The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)
  06/26/24
no lol
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
i think yes. 40 WAR in MLB, 2 MVPs, on his way to a third (a...
richard clock
  06/26/24
i dont think japan shit counts and war is a bs "stat&qu...
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
japan def counts and i agree war is bs, it underplays how go...
richard clock
  06/26/24
i dunno i think hes an excellent player who is also a comple...
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
eh, disagree, espn completely ignores baseball these days. a...
richard clock
  06/26/24
mike trout is also an excellent player who is an espn forcem...
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
lol what espn channel are you watching where they are forcem...
richard clock
  06/26/24
the seeds were planted like 12 years ago.
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
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Putting the Virgin in Neuro-divergent
  06/26/24
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The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)
  06/27/24
Yes, obviously. Billy Wagner is going to get in with a W...
........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
  06/26/24
counter argument is johan santana was two time cy young and ...
richard clock
  06/26/24
santana got fucked by the steroids ballot. i'd bet he still ...
........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
  06/26/24
I have tried to understand wtf is WAR, but I never will. Scr...
AI_concubine
  06/26/24
i think its not standardized so basically it means whatever ...
Cogsworth
  06/26/24
its supposed to tell you how many additional wins a player a...
richard clock
  06/26/24
Yeah I just don’t get how that works at all. I’d...
AI_concubine
  06/26/24
duh
wired headphones
  06/27/24


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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:46 PM
Author: richard clock



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:46 PM
Author: The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781077)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:50 PM
Author: Cogsworth

no lol

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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: richard clock

i think yes. 40 WAR in MLB, 2 MVPs, on his way to a third (as a fucking DH), unreal stats in Japan. obviously the two way player thing. he's a HOFer as of today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781091)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:53 PM
Author: Cogsworth

i dont think japan shit counts and war is a bs "stat"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781098)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:54 PM
Author: richard clock

japan def counts and i agree war is bs, it underplays how good ohtani has been because of the dh penalty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781099)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:57 PM
Author: Cogsworth

i dunno i think hes an excellent player who is also a complete espn forcememe. hed need to win 1.5 world series and double his current career to be in contention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781112)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:59 PM
Author: richard clock

eh, disagree, espn completely ignores baseball these days. also, baseball is a team sport. world series wins dont make or break a hofer. mike trout is no doubt first ballot hof and hasnt sniffed any playoff success.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781119)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:01 PM
Author: Cogsworth

mike trout is also an excellent player who is an espn forcememe but at least he has double ohtanis stats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781126)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:03 PM
Author: richard clock

lol what espn channel are you watching where they are forcememing mike fucking trout? i doubt they've given him more than a minute of discussion outside actual angels games in the last few years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781130)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:05 PM
Author: Cogsworth

the seeds were planted like 12 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781136)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:22 PM
Author: Putting the Virgin in Neuro-divergent



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Date: June 27th, 2024 2:18 AM
Author: The Gordon Bombay of Bombay (tp, to be clear)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:04 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Yes, obviously.

Billy Wagner is going to get in with a WAR of 27

How would they not let Ohtani in given that he's a 2-time MVP and a dual hitter/pitcher - that's way more rare than closers...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781132)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:05 PM
Author: richard clock

counter argument is johan santana was two time cy young and didnt get a sniff. but yeah, i think it's guaranteed even if he doesnt play another game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781135)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


santana got fucked by the steroids ballot. i'd bet he still probably gets into the HOF eventually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781141)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:07 PM
Author: AI_concubine

I have tried to understand wtf is WAR, but I never will. Screw these analytics dorks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781139)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: Cogsworth

i think its not standardized so basically it means whatever a particular organization wants it to mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781145)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:13 PM
Author: richard clock

its supposed to tell you how many additional wins a player adds to the team compared to if you replaced him with the next guy available from the minors. but it's kinda dumb since no one can tell you how it's calculated and actually different orgs calculate it differently. but its completely taken over how baseball nerds compare player value since its one number you can compare across players

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781157)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:15 PM
Author: AI_concubine

Yeah I just don’t get how that works at all. I’d much prefer obp and bat avg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781165)



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Date: June 27th, 2024 2:23 AM
Author: wired headphones

duh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545893&forum_id=2#47781551)