Is the Apprentice movie just 2 hours of orange man bad?
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Date: March 3rd, 2025 2:29 PM
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a great part when Trump rolls up to the AC buffet line slop and gleefully grabs the cheese balls
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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: ..,.,.,,,,.,.,..,.,,,.,..,,.,.,,,
Not exactly. It's a good movie.
The Trump character actually starts out as quite likeable/relatable. At first he's just a guy working for his dad, there's a sequence where he goes and individually collects rent from slum tenants and gets shit thrown at him, threatened, etc. I don't know if that actually happened but it wouldn't surprise me, even if Fred Trump made him do it as a character building exercise or whatever. But he's sort of a working stiff at that point, relateable, he's shown as quite kind to his brother and sort of awkwardly charming when he's wooing Ivana. And he is shown as having a good vision for NYC and being genuinely preescient about what the city would become in the 90s.
He meets Cohn who instills a particular ethos in him (never admit defeat, fight all the time, admit nothing and deny everything, all that stuff). Cohn seems very formidable and Trump is like the new guy who stumbles in interviews and gets out over his skis. But the relationship flips as Cohn ages and then gets AIDS and Trump ascends in the 80s.
Idk how true it is, but it shows Cohn as a real bastard who nonetheless is guided by a genuine sense of patriotism and loyalty. So he thinks he sees the same thing in Trump and that the "code" will be reciprocated. But Trump is basically an empty vessel, not curious or principled.
Trump is shown as having real genuine love for his fuckup brother but their father's influence basically makes him resent his brother's weakness and when his bro dies, Trump seals off those parts of his personality and goes full nihilist. Cohn gets AIDS and Trump kinda dumps him, but Cohn isn't sympathetic so it sort of seems like just desserts. Then Trump looks like he might reconsider and show compassion to his old mentor, which he kind of does but in the demented Trumpian way where it has to be all about himself. At the end you conclude Trump doesn't even know what he's doing wrong--to him it's totally fine to treat anybody as disposable means to an end, because the only thing that's right is what furthers Trumps objectives.
Basically it's the story of Cohn thinking he sees something in Trump that isn't really there, and then being shocked and disappointed at the tragedy that Trump is just a selfish dickhead through and through. Which I think is a fucking fair assessment of the man's character--everybody, his friends and his enemies, have always seen what they want to see in him, until its too late and he's fucked them over. He's someone people endlessly project on and he's happy to play the role.
People who hate Trump already will hate that it shows him as a human. People who like Trump will be mad that it shows him as a fucking conman. So it was never going to be a popular movie. But it's definitely an interesting one and great performances from the 3 main leads (4 if you count Fred Trump Sr).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5688260&forum_id=2#48710062)
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Date: March 3rd, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: ..,.,.,,,,.,.,..,.,,,.,..,,.,.,,,
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I think it's funny how a lot of the criticism of the movie has been along the lines of, "it doesn't show what makes Trump tick."
Well, that misses the point. He's not that complicated lol. I think it would have been better reviewed by lib movie reviewers if he was shown as some complicated or conflicted anti hero. But it would have been a worse movie if they turned him into Tony Soprano or whatever. In a way the movie reviewers are falling into the same trap as everyone else, "there has to be more to him" projection.
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