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Is AI better than humans at chess
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:44 PM Author: Zippy comical alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068309) |
Date: October 21st, 2018 6:45 PM Author: haunting station becky Probably a lot better than the average human (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068314) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:51 PM Author: snowy stead hunting ground *it is 1997* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068353) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Greedy Locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068359) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Cream exhilarant national security agency rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068462) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:45 PM Author: Bistre Nowag Sound Barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068660) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:10 AM Author: rambunctious range legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070784) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Sable racy puppy Way way better at this point.
Not that it really matters. Cars are faster than people but people still compete in track. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:12 PM Author: snowy stead hunting ground As I understand it, the big chess engines running on phones can stomp the shit out of all humans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068477) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:30 PM Author: Multi-colored orchid library yes, chess engines running on modern phones are easily 3000 ELO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068563) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:26 PM Author: diverse idiotic tattoo Chess is old news. It's now** beating us at "Go!" the super old, super complicated Chinese game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068549) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:30 PM Author: supple queen of the night DeepMind currently dominates human and computers alike in both Chess and Go! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068570) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:37 PM Author: Multi-colored orchid library the AlphaZero victory against Stockfish (admittedly using somewhat weird constraints, like no opening book for stockfish) was a bigger surprise to me and more alarming than AlphaGo defeating Sedol. Chess programming has been researched by many people for the last several decades and a simple learning architecture still managed to beat them. the games are also unlike anything else i have seen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068613) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:28 AM Author: supple queen of the night AlphaZero v. Stockfish was one of the most beautiful Chess matches I've ever seen. I highly recommend watching it on YouTube. Its intelligence and style of play is revolutionary and bucks hundreds of years of Chess theory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070620) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:31 PM Author: Duck-like twinkling uncleanness gaming laptop This is hilarious. For decades, Go players bragged about how their game is the best because computers can't do well at it. Then a computer got really good at it in less than a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068583) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:32 PM Author: pearly thriller theatre lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068589) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:04 AM Author: Multi-colored orchid library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070545) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:35 PM Author: pearly thriller theatre lettuce AI is unequivocally better at Chess. Magnus Carlsen or Fabi Caruana get fucking stomped by any engine.
AlphaMind dominates at Go too.
Any calculation-based game will become strictly dominated by computers, if it isn't already; there's just no way we can out-think every possible thread. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:37 PM Author: High-end Cracking University Coffee Pot Asians shall become obsolete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068612) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:43 PM Author: Multi-colored orchid library it's not even strictly about having superior calculation abilities. as i recall, the residual network DeepMind uses to generate a probability distribution over moves (which was then used to guide the tree search algorithm) was nearly better than Sedol's estimated ELO. so playing on intuition alone it can look at the board and few milliseconds later (with no searching) spit out a move roughly equivalent to what the best human player would come up with after trying out a bunch of possibilities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068645) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:44 PM Author: pearly thriller theatre lettuce True of AI, but not regular engines. AI is on a wholly new plane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37068655) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:12 AM Author: Dashing bull headed piazza thankfully.....law, accounting, engineering and medicine is safe from AI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070567) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:15 AM Author: Zippy comical alpha Software engineering is definitely not safe. Neither is "data science" except at the highest levels. Medicine is safe just from a licensing and litigation standpoint (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070582) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:19 AM Author: Floppy toilet seat dragon Lol fuck "AI" these matches are nothing more than cheap ad ploys by big tech so their R&D department can show some semblance of revenue. Do u really think McDonald's is holding back cashier robots bc of a $1.75 savings from min wage? State ur IQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070596) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:21 AM Author: mind-boggling flickering property hissy fit https://www.forbes.com/sites/edrensi/2018/07/11/mcdonalds-says-goodbye-cashiers-hello-kiosks/
mcdonalds beat earnings estimates earlier this year and the executives were just as surprised as wall st: turns out kiosks are better at upselling than human cashiers.
by 2020, there will be no more human cashiers at mcdonalds. that's not a prediction, that is the company's stated plan.
edit: out of touch boomers are concerned:
"My concern about this is personal. Without my opportunity to start as a grill man, I would have never ended up running one of largest fast food chains in the world. I started working at McDonald’s making the minimum wage of 85 cents an hour. I worked hard and earned a promotion to restaurant manager within just one year, then went on to hold almost every position available throughout the company, eventually rising to CEO of McDonalds USA." |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:05 AM Author: insanely creepy step-uncle's house Yes, it just can't do anything useful, like understand a voice or figure out verbal context that a goddamn retarded 6-year-old wouldn't miss.
Honestly it's fucking awing how much of an abject failure AI has been. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:13 AM Author: Alcoholic school mad cow disease we're likely still far away from the singularity, which is good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070792) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:23 AM Author: mind-boggling flickering property hissy fit we're 3-5 years away maximum from having voice be the primary input for our technology
my 2 year old daughter already asks Alexa to play music for her |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:27 AM Author: jet public bath corn cake voice input is woefully impractical for most things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070816) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 3:29 AM Author: mind-boggling flickering property hissy fit not for media consumption and purchasing, the two things that matter most for consumers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111948&forum_id=2#37070820) |