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LA homeowners discovering the rental and housing marke sucks
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:15 AM Author: tan juggernaut Fuck these scum. I am glad they get to deal with what 40% of Americans get to deal with.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3w5qr26pwo
"What's available is not nice at all and the rents have gone up a lot," Mr Storc told the BBC. "I told my teenage daughter we had to accept we would live somewhere not very nice."
Yet there was a "tragic" misconception that all of the victims of the Palisades fire were wealthy, according to Pete Brown, a spokesperson for the area's city council member, Traci Parks.
Many Palisades fire victims purchased their homes decades ago, possibly for prices as low as $25,000, he told the BBC. |
Date: January 14th, 2025 8:16 AM Author: tan juggernaut "And there was little chance they could buy a property similar to the one they owned at today's rates." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551739) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: Pink Vigorous Garrison Telephone neofeudalism rears its ugly head once again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551839) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:26 AM Author: contagious crawly national nowag thanks, prop 13! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551750) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:29 AM Author: tan juggernaut not a good thing, but probably doesnt even cause 1% of the housing issues in CA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551758) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:42 AM Author: contagious crawly national nowag true, but it's a microcosm of boomerism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551773) |
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Date: January 20th, 2025 7:35 AM Author: stimulating violet brunch What is your support for this statement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48567970) |
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Date: January 20th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: tan juggernaut reduced prop taxes has a small impact on prices compared to the trillons in federal support for morgages, the tax deduction on mortgage interest, and zoning laws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48567980) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:31 AM Author: sooty geriatric cruise ship 25000 for a decent sized home in LA? By "decades ago" do they mean like 1960? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551762) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:42 AM Author: irate mewling space puppy Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551772) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:50 AM Author: shaky athletic conference even in 70s prob was under 100k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551786) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: autistic irradiated jew lay Much of LA is very modest housing stock. 2-bedroom, 1,000 sqft bungalows, 2-3 bedroom ramblers from the 50s. When we first moved here I was surprised by how many houses were only 2-bedrooms. A good chunk of what burned in Altadena were working to middle class housing of the era, which remained fairly inexpensive into the 90s, which is one reason why Altadena has a large black and Latino population, it was what they could afford. It's only in recent decade that they started selling for $1+M.
In the 70s you could buy a comfortable 2,000 sqft 3-bedroom ranch house with sea view in Dana Point or San Clemente down in OC for 75k, so it's plausible that the small bungalows and ramblers in modest quarters of LA could be had for a third of that, especially if they already needed some work. And even in Pacific Palisades back in the 70s there were small sub 1500 sqft houses. There was nowhere the volume of wealth or size of affluent populations in the 1970s compared to today.
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Date: January 14th, 2025 2:12 PM Author: shaky athletic conference i was checking and Altadena avg home price is now 950k ljl, its like 30-40% nigga/beaner city in the pasadena school district so the public schools are total shit prob (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552697) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 2:21 PM Author: autistic irradiated jew lay Anything under 950k will be condos. SFHs will be above $1M unless a teardown.
Altadena also has gorgeous areas with beautiful homes that burned. Fire took an equal opportunity approach. Friends of ours had a gorgeous large 1920s Spanish colonial with loggias and lily ponds and Spanish tiling and due to sheer fate it survived even though his neighbors all burned. My heart goes out for the town. I always liked the place. Has a real vibe. Normal people. Liberal for sure but in a good way. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:31 AM Author: Frum New Version Shitlib whaddaya mean a credit scoaah i just want the apahtment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551763) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:14 AM Author: motley lilac theater french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551848) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:33 AM Author: floppy crotch Have they considered Bakersfield (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551766) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552189) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:51 AM Author: shaky athletic conference they just need to work a little harder, bring themselves up by their bootstraps. back in my day that's how we did it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551790) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: odious boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551793) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:12 AM Author: Pink Vigorous Garrison Telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551841) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 10:32 AM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552049) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:00 AM Author: olive diverse menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552117) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:02 AM Author: motley lilac theater french chef get out there and pound that pavement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552123) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:35 PM Author: godawful school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552575) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:45 AM Author: Soul-stirring Opaque Masturbator They need to work on practicing a "Firm Handshake" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48554299) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 3:52 AM Author: gold market pervert Shoe leather! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48554310) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:55 AM Author: Arousing Fat Ankles Parlor what % of these people didn't have fire insurance? imagine being a public school teacher or something with 97% of your nw in your pacific palisades home that your family bought in the 70s for <$100k and then losing it with no recourse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551803) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 8:58 AM Author: shaky athletic conference furk them either way, if they try to pull "ohhh i was just a poormo in PACIFIC PALISADAS" cause i inherited this 5m house from my boomer shit parents then furk them, they shld be thrown in the pacific (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551811) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:02 AM Author: obsidian stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551822) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:13 AM Author: Arousing Fat Ankles Parlor do you still pay CA taxes? your "politicians" are about to rape you to bail out a bunch of B-list movie stars and second generation librarians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551844) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:18 AM Author: shaky athletic conference i hveant paid shit in years cause im non resident, one year i think i owed like $45 even though i had no idea whhy but i just paid cause i know their tax agency is fascist as furk
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:03 AM Author: tan juggernaut damage estimates are roughly 20% insured, 80% uninsured. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551825) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: lime fighting multi-billionaire organic girlfriend Actually insane if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551833) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 10:25 AM Author: tan juggernaut https://nypost.com/2025/01/10/business/la-fires-forecast-for-damages-triples-to-150b-costliest-blaze-in-us-history/
"JP Morgan analysts predicted insured losses of $20 billion — and estimated that uninsured losses could soar to well over $100 billion." |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 7:16 PM Author: Carnelian Filthpig Hairy Legs Wow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553509) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:16 PM Author: Arrogant fortuitous meteor macaca There is no way this is true in the Palisades. Literally everyone there is a true richmo. The houses are huge, 98% brand new (built in the last 10 years) and the people who own them are extremely successful hollywood business moguls or actors/actresses. Those are mostly insured even with all the bullshit going on in CA with fire insurance it's still possible to get insured, even if you have to go through the state to do it.
The Eaton fire is a totally different story. These are MC to UMC ppl trying to scrape by in LA and prob not super up to date on the status of their homeowners insurance. These are the types to go oh my homeowners insurance policy is getting non-renewed i should probably take a look at other policies and then they just kinda forget to do it for a few months not assuming their shit would burn down in the next month. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: godawful school Everything you wrote about the Palisades is Opposite Day wrong. You may be thinking of the homes on the Malibu waterfront that burned but those also mostly aren’t “brand new (built in the last 10 years).” Palisades has true richmos like the dude that had the Succession house. But most of the houses that burned are what’s described up thread. A small lot with a medium-large house that is several decades old and occupied by someone who bought it (or inherited from relatives who bought it) for a small fraction of its current value. Lots of boomers and older Gen Xers who thought they won at life because their middle class home of the late 80s gained so much equity that they became paper multimillionaires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552591) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:13 AM Author: Pink Vigorous Garrison Telephone a house from the 70s is probably not a big part of the value of the property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551843) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:53 PM Author: concupiscible love of her life good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552624) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: godawful school A house from the 70s that was gutted to the studs and completely remodeled using a quarter of the $5M in equity it amassed since the 70s would be, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552631) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 2:02 PM Author: concupiscible love of her life and would likely be insured (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552666) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:09 PM Author: Pink Vigorous Garrison Telephone and if the owner didn’t want to pay for insurance then fuck them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552878) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:15 AM Author: Exhilarant range The empty burned down lot is still worth $3 million. Just sell it and buy a house somewhere else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551849) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:37 AM Author: odious boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551912) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 10:26 AM Author: Soggy station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552034) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:23 AM Author: bonkers potus yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552186) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 12:14 PM Author: Pink Vigorous Garrison Telephone (Blackrock business development specialist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552359) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: godawful school It will be extremely expensive and under threat of regulatory restriction and impossible to insure now. The land values will also collapse after this unless some major change happens to reduce the fire risk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552597) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 6:19 PM Author: Shivering useless brakes location To be fair,
TWIST: No they won't, and you're legitimately retarded if you actually think that.
SOURCE: Huge swathes of Malibu literally go up in flames every decade or so (the last big Malibu fire before this was in like 2018)... and yet in 2025, tons of richmos would still gladly beat a pregnant woman to death with their bare hands on national TV for the "privilege" of shelling out tens of millions of dollars to own a house in that area. In fact, Malibu property values have only continued to rise steadily throughout the last decade... odd case!
(In b4 "B-b-but Pacific Palisades is totally different than Malibu for reasons, it's not the same thing at all, trust me, I know these things!") |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: bonkers potus yarmulke Public school teachers deserve nothing short of unyielding, constant abuse and humiliation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552190) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 9:32 AM Author: Soggy station how does prop 13 work on forced rebuilds? they can rebuild a new, nicer home, and still get the same assessment? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48551901) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: godawful school I think there’s some cap on it so that you can’t build to more than “substantially equivalent” value but then you keep your insane windfall property tax assessment. But you can’t get insurance so you’re still kinda fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552611) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: bonkers potus yarmulke WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR UPPER CLASS JEWS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552126) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:22 AM Author: olive diverse menage reminds me of ITE when a bunch of boomers got ejected from their bubbles and realized "just give him a firm handshake" didn't get you a cradle to grave job anymore.
they created a protectionist NIMBY regime and it's pure justice when they are hoisted be their own petards. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:23 AM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552187) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:54 PM Author: godawful school I would put at least 20 other big city school districts behind LAUSD. It is terrible, but really only for poors. Their satellite cities also have their own school districts, and that’s where everyone with kids who gives a shit ends up living if they aren’t decamillionaires. But like SF schools are god awful everywhere, even in the richest neighborhoods because those commies are so far gone that they literally ruin the schools that might have a chance to be OK and claim “equity” requires it. That’s before you even look at truly broken cities with tax base like St. Louis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552626) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: olive diverse menage i believe his point is that these entrenched wealthmos give such little shit about everyone else that they let the public schools in the area go to shit because they just send their kids to private and are always pulling the later up for everyone else. i notice a lot of cities are like what you describe where the wealthy areas have shit schools and the rich areas have good schools because that's where people move if they want their kids to go to public.
"worst in the country" was poor choice of words, probably "worst schools relative to the tax base." yeah, absolute dogshit dindu land is way, way worse. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:51 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553006) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:53 PM Author: olive diverse menage yes but you said that taxes that target wealth punish success (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553009) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553014) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:00 PM Author: olive diverse menage i don't think any tax should be about getting rid of or punishing people. it's just much fairer than an income tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553029) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553031) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: olive diverse menage i don't understand. this doesn't seem relevant to anything he wrote about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553038) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:10 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553047) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:33 PM Author: olive diverse menage no, that's not his philosophy at all. he choose to live as a survivalist but he wasn't a total anarchist who believed in no government. he was anti-authoritarian and believed in the destruction of big government and big business, which some would file under "anarchism", but he didn't believe in the complete abolition of a state or government.
he didn't get MAF about his property taxes. he got a low income waiver. idk recall anything about him getting MAF about a property tax bill. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553097) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:48 PM Author: olive diverse menage you should really read him. you'd like him.
almost everything he wrote was about why the system that exists is sucked and is going to keep sucking, and how to topple it. but he didn't write too much about what he would replace it with. i'd say he's very jeffersonian state's rights types in that he'd want smaller governments. his big gripe was that the monolithic system we have now is evil and explaining how it works and why. he continued to revise technological slavery and his predictions and thoughts are so prescient that if you didn't know it you would have think someone from today wrote it as if it was written years ago. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:55 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553162) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: olive diverse menage how can you say it's a "generous interpretation" if you don't know what he said? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553175) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553197) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: olive diverse menage well two minutes ago you thought his beliefs were:
"I thought he thought that everyone ought to be able to live off land they owned for free and grow veggies and not have to pay the piper. Thought that was his whole thing. Government doesn't let you simply live off the grid you have to EARN." and that he was irate over $25 property tax bills.
so, perhaps you're not informed enough to say what he believed it. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:18 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553238) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:23 PM Author: olive diverse menage sticking to your guns about on an opinion that you admit is completely unresearched?
"the grapes of wrath sucked. haven't read it btw." |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:24 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553268) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: olive diverse menage trump is broadly informed and in non-combative interviews is quick to admit when he's ignorant about something and defer to people who are more informed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553274) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553287) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:44 PM Author: motley lilac theater french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553313) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Metal lascivious house ape Taxes don't have shit to do with how good public schools are, its simply demographics, a school full of retarded beaners is never gonna do worth a damn even if you spent 1 billion per student
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Date: January 14th, 2025 5:25 PM Author: olive diverse menage (crown heights kike sending his kikeling to a private yeshiva and defending public schools) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553270) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Metal lascivious house ape Don't reply to me you druggie loser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553466) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: olive diverse menage you're in my subthread wasteland faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553548) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: tan juggernaut we need it again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552191) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 6:22 PM Author: Shivering useless brakes location To be fair,
CR... except that instead of being hoisted on their own petards, the federal government will instead quickly step in and fully cover all of these losses for ~110% of their "fair market value" and then just add that to our tab.
You really think the Feds would leave whiny Jews and petulant California Boomers hanging out to dry when they can instead kick the can down the road and further fuck over retarded and demoralized loser Millennials and Zoomers who predictably won't do a goddamn thing in response to getting assfucked yet again?
LJL. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 6:32 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553432) |
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Date: January 15th, 2025 5:35 AM Author: olive diverse menage yeah they did for ITE too. some may suffer or at least sweat a little bit. which will be nice. but of course they'll boom their way out of this one. after we shut the entire world down for 3 years because boomers wanted to live a bit longer even if it meant stunting the growth of every other generation i gave up thinking the government would ever resist booming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48554361) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: Metal lascivious house ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48552531) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:55 PM Author: Soggy station There's gonna be a ton of property changing hands then right? Who are the buyers for these lots? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553016) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: razzle-dazzle frisky resort new money/laundered from Indiastan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553102) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: Soggy station Prop 13 is still so insane to me. I don't think there is an equivalent boomer statute anywhere thats like "you get to stop paying property taxes if you bought your home several decades ago. everyone else who isn't in the special group will just have to pay more." senior exemptions are similarly bad but just not to this level.
property taxes are the one very good tax imo. ensures productivity of land. |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:00 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553030) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: shaky athletic conference prop 13 is retarded but so are property taxes, the idea the govt can tax u every year even if u've paid off the property is furking insane, it maeks zero sense. its the only tax not tied to annual economic activity like wages, sales tax etc
if u need property taxes to ensure the owner uses it for productive means that seems like a retarded way to do things, u shld instead tax ppl who have 2nd homes that are unoccupied etc
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:36 PM Author: Soggy station no property taxes means 3 guys will own every plot in the united states after 50 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553087) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: maroon ladyboy mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553098) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: razzle-dazzle frisky resort Its almost like God and/or Satan is seeking revenge on the wicked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553032) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: motley lilac theater french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553051) |
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Date: January 14th, 2025 4:28 PM Author: Razzmatazz hyperactive queen of the night Regarding prop13 that just makes owning property real. Otherwise in most of usa taxes+insurance are 10x rates in Europe. That's why long term rental is so much cheaper in Nice than Miami for example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663721&forum_id=2#48553071) |