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Bros should I do State AG instead of biglaw?
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:06 PM Author: provocative rigor Big-state AG. HYS, fed app. clerk. Would be leaving 180k on the table in year 1 alone. Have about 75k in debt still.
Salary of 70ish. |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:07 PM Author: fuchsia locale Sounds silly.
You can always apply for the AG's office again. |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:10 PM Author: provocative rigor i guess my thought is that i'd have a much better chance of going federal in 2-3 years if I did state gov. also that I don't want to waste my remaining youth/hair in biglaw hell. but it would also suck to stay poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844165) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:22 PM Author: razzmatazz charcoal stage It is bullshit that people go state ag>fed. People go biglaw>bigfed. Affirmative litigation in an attorney general shop is essentially follow what the FTC has done. Every call is "WELL, WHAT HAS THE FEDS DONE?" Why do you think that will enhance your resume? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844247) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:54 PM Author: provocative rigor I also figure that there are hordes of biglaw associates trying to escape. It's tough to get a AUSA job from private practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844522) |
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Date: May 9th, 2015 2:23 PM Author: histrionic sinister lay State AG rarely does this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27854739) |
Date: May 7th, 2015 8:25 PM Author: odious space Absolutely yes. That's what I did. If you're interested in going AUSA, you will have the jury trial experience to do that. Plus, if you're interested in it, that tells me you would be bored with biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844273) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 8:55 PM Author: provocative rigor yeah man i want to. I am worried, though, that I can't afford to live in my city on a state AG salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844536) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:00 PM Author: Talented Mauve Famous Landscape Painting lol NO. dont fucking do state ag over biglaw. this is where this site becomes extremely toxic. you haven't even started and you're bailing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844580) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:02 PM Author: provocative rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844603) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:07 PM Author: Talented Mauve Famous Landscape Painting well thats irregular and tbf you sound like a bitch. if they have that much work they can't just get rid of you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844648) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:07 PM Author: Seedy Goyim Site u seem dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844649) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:03 PM Author: Vermilion partner temple Think about how much $180K at 7% compound interest will be worth in 20 years, bro.
(hint: $700K) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:06 PM Author: Talented Mauve Famous Landscape Painting stfu. the economy will collapse before that. but he should consider how much it is now. and get the fuck out with that 7% crap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844638) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:07 PM Author: Vermilion partner temple it's still a lot even at something like 5%, which is I'd say is a fairly conservative estimate for something like 20 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844643) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:08 PM Author: Talented Mauve Famous Landscape Painting lol. its not conservative at all. that america is dead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844655) |
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Date: May 9th, 2015 2:38 PM Author: elite volcanic crater mood this is meaningless. there are taxes and living expenses. it's not like you take home 180k a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27854801) |
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Date: May 7th, 2015 9:07 PM Author: fear-inspiring giraffe parlour Yes. Apply for sections in your AG's office that litigate in federal court, even if its bullshit 1983 actions. You'll be handling your own caseload immediately and get real experience doing depos, hearings, negotiating settlements, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27844642) |
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Date: May 9th, 2015 12:28 PM Author: provocative rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27854125) |
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Date: May 9th, 2015 2:26 PM Author: Bossy black resort mad cow disease I did state AG out of a TTT law school before ITE, when anyone who wanted a stage AG job got one. What you need to know about most state and city government jobs is that they are perpetually understaffed, and if you are competent you will get a lot of chances to do hands-on work that junior people probably wouldn't get to do in the private sector or even in the federal government.
On the other hand, the pay is very low. $60k was decent money in my midwestern state capital but I imagine it'd be worse in the northeast. |
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Date: May 17th, 2015 8:55 PM Author: provocative rigor halp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27911333) |
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Date: May 17th, 2015 9:44 PM Author: Cyan Dysfunction Great litigation experience.
But you'll never get AUSA from State AG.
Look at your local AUSA office. Ask how many of them came form AG's offices.
You'll find that the bulk came from BIGLAW or state DA's office. |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 6:04 PM Author: provocative rigor That is true, but I wonder if that's also because most deputy AGs either (1) don't have fancy credentials or (2) enter public service after 6-7 years at a firm - when they're too senior to make more moves.
I assume USAOs hire from biglaw because of the signalling value and not the experience. But do I really need more credentials at this point? |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 6:07 PM Author: federal vivacious doctorate boistinker cash is king
go with biglaw for a few years
your resume will get you interviews at some fed positions down the road
key is not to stay perpetually in biglaw but to get out after 2-4 years |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 6:09 PM Author: Motley center love of her life how does one do this?
(4th year staring at 5th year) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 6:57 PM Author: fragrant bearded circlehead What are typical exit opps out of these shops (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27916700) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:01 PM Author: provocative rigor mostly a final destination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27916715) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:43 PM Author: fragrant bearded circlehead so you could cop that pslf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27916991) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:47 PM Author: provocative rigor I would use my school's LRAP, which is better. I'd still have to pay a nominal amount - probably about 4000 a year. But still, living on 70k in a major metro will not be easy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917015) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:04 PM Author: buff chapel dog poop State AG. AUSA loves trial experience above all else (though your clerkship is another important feather). With your credentials and a few years of trial experience you will be a super candidate.
You could definitely get it from biglaw (though I'd say less of a chance, relatively speaking). But biglaw is hell and may break you before you get AUSA. Plus you won't be cultivating the right skills. Just PAYE. |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:48 PM Author: odious space By the way, if this is Pennsylvania, don't do it. The AG is a total shitshow political hack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917019) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 7:51 PM Author: provocative rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917042) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:04 PM Author: sable hideous jewess university Even worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917794) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: provocative rigor ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917831) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 8:44 PM Author: comical unholy theater stage hairy legs be careful. If you're not in a unit that gets trial experience, then it's a pretty worthless gig. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2874449&forum_id=2#27917326) |
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Date: May 18th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: exciting judgmental bawdyhouse ladyboy Not doing a year in biglaw to cop a $50k plus clerkship bonus sounds dumb.
Do a couple years in biglaw and then bail. |